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(21 Oct 2016, 8:39 am)Jamie M wrote It's mildly funny watching some of the content people make with regards to both of them - "Trumpty Dumpty wants to build a wall" etc.
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(27 Oct 2016, 10:46 am)Michael wrote Jobs boost as Nissan to build new models in UK
Theresa May welcomes the decision by Nissan to produce new models in Sunderland, saying "this is fantastic news for the UK."
http://news.sky.com/story/nissan-to-buil...d-10633979
(27 Oct 2016, 10:55 am)Andreos1 wrote Over the moon. Goshn has used various threats since Renault and Nissan started working together.
Glad to see common sense prevail and the most productive plant in Europe continue to be given a chance.
(31 Oct 2016, 5:04 pm)Andreos1 wrote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37826507?ns...nel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central
Astounded.
(31 Oct 2016, 6:34 pm)Adrian wrote I'm not.I do not believe there is any wrongdoing. I've never have gotten to grips with the actual reasoning, but the protest was an act of enterprise level crime. They were simply depriving the business of, well, business. There are effective ways of protesting, but going about it in an obnoxious way is going to make you look like an obnoxious moron. The police were doing nothing but ensuring the protesting was not being in any scope illegal or otherwise threatening the health of a business, to which had yet to be proven as wrongful. Not deaths were there to be covered up, and it's not disputed that there are any wrongful arrests made. Perhaps the police shouldn't to have resorted to violence, if they even did. And inquiry cannot bring alive what occured 32 years ago, simply because nothing to which people wish to know is documented. It feels like the only reason this took off is because of people who feel they were treated in the wrong manner by the police have seen a glimmer of chance of sucess due to the uncovering of the tragic and catastrophic failure of the police at h'bro football. These people are chancing at the same sucess, but I very much doubt there is much that an inquest could shed light on.
You'd think they had something to hide?
(31 Oct 2016, 6:34 pm)KAdrian wrote I'm not.
You'd think they had something to hide?
(31 Oct 2016, 7:32 pm)Jamie M wrote I do not believe there is any wrongdoing. I've never have gotten to grips with the actual reasoning, but the protest was an act of enterprise level crime. They were simply depriving the business of, well, business. There are effective ways of protesting, but going about it in an obnoxious way is going to make you look like an obnoxious moron. The police were doing nothing but ensuring the protesting was not being in any scope illegal or otherwise threatening the health of a business, to which had yet to be proven as wrongful. Not deaths were there to be covered up, and it's not disputed that there are any wrongful arrests made. Perhaps the police shouldn't to have resorted to violence, if they even did. And inquiry cannot bring alive what occured 32 years ago, simply because nothing to which people wish to know is documented. It feels like the only reason this took off is because of people who feel they were treated in the wrong manner by the police have seen a glimmer of chance of sucess due to the uncovering of the tragic and catastrophic failure of the police at h'bro football. These people are chancing at the same sucess, but I very much doubt there is much that an inquest could shed light on.
I wasn't alive at the time and do not fully know the background, but this is my response from the little I do know.
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(31 Oct 2016, 7:32 pm)Jamie M wrote I do not believe there is any wrongdoing. I've never have gotten to grips with the actual reasoning, but the protest was an act of enterprise level crime. They were simply depriving the business of, well, business. There are effective ways of protesting, but going about it in an obnoxious way is going to make you look like an obnoxious moron. The police were doing nothing but ensuring the protesting was not being in any scope illegal or otherwise threatening the health of a business, to which had yet to be proven as wrongful. Not deaths were there to be covered up, and it's not disputed that there are any wrongful arrests made. Perhaps the police shouldn't to have resorted to violence, if they even did. And inquiry cannot bring alive what occured 32 years ago, simply because nothing to which people wish to know is documented. It feels like the only reason this took off is because of people who feel they were treated in the wrong manner by the police have seen a glimmer of chance of sucess due to the uncovering of the tragic and catastrophic failure of the police at h'bro football. These people are chancing at the same sucess, but I very much doubt there is much that an inquest could shed light on.
I wasn't alive at the time and do not fully know the background, but this is my response from the little I do know.
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(31 Oct 2016, 7:32 pm)Jamie M wrote I do not believe there is any wrongdoing. I've never have gotten to grips with the actual reasoning, but the protest was an act of enterprise level crime. They were simply depriving the business of, well, business. There are effective ways of protesting, but going about it in an obnoxious way is going to make you look like an obnoxious moron. The police were doing nothing but ensuring the protesting was not being in any scope illegal or otherwise threatening the health of a business, to which had yet to be proven as wrongful. Not deaths were there to be covered up, and it's not disputed that there are any wrongful arrests made. Perhaps the police shouldn't to have resorted to violence, if they even did. And inquiry cannot bring alive what occured 32 years ago, simply because nothing to which people wish to know is documented. It feels like the only reason this took off is because of people who feel they were treated in the wrong manner by the police have seen a glimmer of chance of sucess due to the uncovering of the tragic and catastrophic failure of the police at h'bro football. These people are chancing at the same sucess, but I very much doubt there is much that an inquest could shed light on.
I wasn't alive at the time and do not fully know the background, but this is my response from the little I do know.
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(02 Nov 2016, 8:07 pm)Adrian wrote Let us not forget that Scargill was right. It was revealed in 2014 from archive papers that there was indeed a hit list of 75 mines to be closed, costing 75,000 jobs. The next 30 years were of course a massive Government cover up.
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-41...-was-right
Owen Jones hit the nail on the head for me in an article he wrote - Orgreave was part of the class war that ended with 96 dead at Hillsborough.
Whilst I am not surprised at this Government's decision, it does not make me any less angry at it. They seem more intent to preserve the "legacy" of Maggie, than let natural justice in this country take plae. It is in the public interest to have this out in the open. If there is nothing to hide, then why do the Tories want to prevent this from happening? Sounds like another stitch up to me.
Hillsborough and Orgreave: one police force, two disgraces.
(05 Nov 2016, 9:30 am)MrFozz wrote While I dont understand it in depth, it seems to me to be the Remain Supporters throwing there toys out the pram, and as soon as they were beaten the plotting started to get what they want, I dont want to turn this into an argument or heated debate, I just dont understand why some are going against the result of the vote.
(05 Nov 2016, 9:30 am)MrFozz wrote Where does the Country go from here, some parts of the press are already talking about an Early Election in 2017, possibly very early spring, although Mrs May has denied that.
(05 Nov 2016, 9:30 am)MrFozz wrote So dudes, what what are the chances of:-
1. Mrs Mays Appeal to the Supreme Court being successful
2. Early Election
3. Article 50 being triggered by March 31 2017
(09 Nov 2016, 7:58 am)S813 FVK wrote Correct. She was left needing to win all 6 states yet to declare to win.Seems like nobody can predict polls these days...
