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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018

Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018

Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(28 Feb 2018, 5:58 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote I understand there are safety implications to consider but I feel strongly bus operators should get passengers back home before terminating services. We can't rely on public transport unfortunately.

I was meant to be volunteering today, but it was cancelled. The bus was running near enough to where I was going, so I didn't have any Stagecoach issues on this occasion, but I don't know what they expect would-be passengers to do when they stop running services without much/any notice. Stagecoach in SS and Sunderland have been really bad in running services, at least Newcastle services have largely been running to a good standard.

I remember Redcar United depot used to be always going on strike. I lived in Redcar then and one day I'd been to Scarborough and ended up having to walk back from Lingdale!
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2018
(28 Feb 2018, 2:15 pm)Cock Robin wrote Totally agree.


Well said. No wonder public transport is dying a death.

In Sunderland I dont blame the buses for going off early, the main roads are skating rinks never mind the estates, in over an hours driving never once did I spot an elusive yellow gritter, its the same everytime we get snow, the councils a joke
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2018
(01 Mar 2018, 8:02 pm)makem1 wrote In Sunderland I dont blame the buses for going off early, the main roads are skating rinks never mind the estates, in over an hours driving never once did I spot an elusive yellow gritter, its the same everytime we get snow, the councils a joke

Only Go North East and Arriva are pulling services, Stagecoach are still running, although they're only using main roads on some routes.

Haven't seen a 23 on my road since Tuesday night.
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2018
(01 Mar 2018, 8:08 pm)Michael wrote Only Go North East and Arriva are pulling services, Stagecoach are still running, although they're only using main roads on some routes.

Haven't seen a 23 on my road since Tuesday night.

We have had a couple of 16 buses running onto the estate, very brave drivers, although the gas buses look very sure footed, last time we had snow like this, we had darts and if memory serves me right they hit more than they missed, they just could not seem to stay straight or out of the gutters
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
Information from SNE twitter page:

Service X34: During challenging periods, double deckers may occasionally need to be replaced with the most suitable alternative vehicle. Please be assured that this service will always be operated by double deckers when operational circumstances permit us to do so.

Traffic delays or faults with the ADL E400s?
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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
I mentioned a few weeks ago that I hadn't seen an E400 on the X34 for quite a while. Even now, I still haven't seen one. I use the Felling Bypass at various parts of the day quite regularly on weekdays, so see the X34 quite often.

I saw two "E's" branded E300s on the other day - though this may have been the same once twice, as I've stopped bothering to even try and get the fleet numbers now.

Allocations to the X24 service are still just as woeful - though it's saying something when you stand a greater chance of seeing a branded Omnilink on the X24, than an Enviro400 on the X34!

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 5:57 pm)Dan wrote I mentioned a few weeks ago that I hadn't seen an E400 on the X34 for quite a while. Even now, I still haven't seen one. I use the Felling Bypass at various parts of the day quite regularly on weekdays, so see the X34 quite often.

I saw two "E's" branded E300s on the other day - though this may have been the same once twice, as I've stopped bothering to even try and get the fleet numbers now.

Allocations to the X24 service are still just as woeful - though it's saying something when you stand a greater chance of seeing a branded Omnilink on the X24, than an Enviro400 on the X34!

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Having two single deckers on the X34 seems as if there are reliability issues with the ADL E400s, as I thought that the fourth (spare) ADL E400 would help to keep the timings right (and possibly one single decker on a rare occasion in the event of severe delays).

What the X34 needs is brand new vehicles - not second-hand/cascaded vehicles. I also think that they should have kept the frequency at 20 minutes.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 6:11 pm)AIG20 wrote Having two single deckers on the X34 seems as if there are reliability issues with the ADL E400s, as I thought that the fourth (spare) ADL E400 would help to keep the timings right (and possibly one single decker on a rare occasion in the event of severe delays).

What the X34 needs is brand new vehicles - not second-hand/cascaded vehicles. I also think that they should have kept the frequency at 20 minutes.

The problem with the 20 min frequency was there was too much lay over times as the journey time is 45 mins each way(very tight though) and giving it 1hr 30 for a round trip which did not work out timewise on 20 mins.

it would be better now and for timekepping to keep both x24 and x34 every 30 mins but interwork at Newcastle changing terminus to one of the bus stations giving both services double decker routes.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 6:43 pm)ifm001 wrote The problem with the 20 min frequency was there was too much lay over times as the journey time is 45 mins each way(very tight though) and giving it 1hr 30 for a round trip which did not work out timewise on 20 mins.

it would be better now and for timekepping to keep both x24 and x34 every 30 mins but interwork at Newcastle changing terminus to one of the bus stations giving both services double decker routes.

Heard gas buses for the X24, although now it seems they don't offer "Gas" on the new E200/300 bodies for single deckers....... 

Not sure how true that is though, hopefully the order will appear soon.


X24 could get Gas buses off the 3,12,13,16 or 20, if any of those buses get new buses, however if any were to receive gas deckers, i would think the frequency would drop, so every 15 minutes on the 16 etc.
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 5:57 pm)Dan wrote I mentioned a few weeks ago that I hadn't seen an E400 on the X34 for quite a while. Even now, I still haven't seen one. I use the Felling Bypass at various parts of the day quite regularly on weekdays, so see the X34 quite often.

I saw two "E's" branded E300s on the other day - though this may have been the same once twice, as I've stopped bothering to even try and get the fleet numbers now.

Allocations to the X24 service are still just as woeful - though it's saying something when you stand a greater chance of seeing a branded Omnilink on the X24, than an Enviro400 on the X34!

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I get the 09:40 from Newcastle everyday and it’s an E400 90% of the time, if not more.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
Has anyone got the link to the Stagecoach North East fleet list website, it shows the fleet positions, whats moved and the PVR's.

My link seems to of disappeared.
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 7:40 pm)Panasonic44 wrote If X24 does get Gas buses, what will they do with scaina's?

Hopefully dump them in a back lane, but tbh, they aren't bad buses, just don't think they're right for the route, due to their age.
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 7:40 pm)Panasonic44 wrote If X24 does get Gas buses, what will they do with scaina's?

Anything new for the X24 is a load of codswallop. Rumours may be from possible bids, but it has been a difficult 12 months for Stagecoach, with sucessful orders reflecting that. Considering how little the NE generally get a look in on sucessful bids, I wouldn't get your hopes up.


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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 9:39 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Anything new for the X24 is a load of codswallop. Rumours may be from possible bids, but it has been a difficult 12 months for Stagecoach, with sucessful orders reflecting that. Considering how little the NE generally get a look in on sucessful bids, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Rumor is that they're getting coaches on the route.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 9:39 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Anything new for the X24 is a load of codswallop. Rumours may be from possible bids, but it has been a difficult 12 months for Stagecoach, with sucessful orders reflecting that. Considering how little the NE generally get a look in on sucessful bids, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

It was just what i heard!, so it looks like the North East are getting little or nothing again?
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 5:57 pm)Dan wrote I mentioned a few weeks ago that I hadn't seen an E400 on the X34 for quite a while. Even now, I still haven't seen one. I use the Felling Bypass at various parts of the day quite regularly on weekdays, so see the X34 quite often.

I saw two "E's" branded E300s on the other day - though this may have been the same once twice, as I've stopped bothering to even try and get the fleet numbers now.

Allocations to the X24 service are still just as woeful - though it's saying something when you stand a greater chance of seeing a branded Omnilink on the X24, than an Enviro400 on the X34!

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There is at the moment at least one of the double deckers off the road with faults per week, a few weeks ago I found out that single deckers were allocated because that week 3 out of the 4 E400 were off road with faults
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(09 Mar 2018, 7:29 pm)Dan wrote http://mbonwick.cu.cc/SCNW/Fleetcards/12

Site has been down for a while now.

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Anyone know an alternative source to access fleetcards for Stagecoach North East? Or at least able to upload the last five months (or so) fleetcards for Busways and Transit? Had intended to play catch up on our own fleet lists!

This website is a great resource and a pity if it won't be back up and running again any time soon.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
Not seen omni X24 for a while, last time i was on one (24003 I think) it broke down at Heworth and not seen one since. Must've been a good 2 weeks now but the driver did say it was having problems and got called back earlier the day before. Although he said that coaches are expected to replace, i do prefer the omincitys.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
(12 Mar 2018, 4:29 pm)Dan wrote Anyone know an alternative source to access fleetcards for Stagecoach North East? Or at least able to upload the last five months (or so) fleetcards for Busways and Transit? Had intended to play catch up on our own fleet lists!

This website is a great resource and a pity if it won't be back up and running again any time soon.

http://mbonwick.byethost7.com/SCNW/Fleetcards/

Michael doesn't think cu.cc will be back up anytime soon, so he's moved them to the semi-permanent location above, for now.


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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2018
Does anyone know which service 12s from Wallsend/Walker to Fenham change drivers at Byker Metro?
I always end up sitting waiting for a change of driver whichever 12 I get, do they all change?

Thanks.