490
Quorum business park
Balliol business park
West farm avenue
Four lane ends
Coach lane campus
Walkergate
Byker
Gateshead interchange
High west street
Old durham road
QE hospital
Windy nook
Heworth

Every 20 mins

Time/depot/allocation tabel for am (towards wuorum only for am)


Time         depot           allocation
6:00*    Saltmeadows ex EYMS president
6:20*    Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
6:40      saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
7:00       riverside                vyking
7:20       riverside        ex london gemini
7:40       riverside        ex london gemini
8:00       riverside       ex london president
8:20    Saltmeadows ex EYMS president
8:40     Saltmeadows ex EYMS presidents
9:00   Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president

* this service terminates at coach lane campus

All AM runs run NIS to Newcastle and do a return trip to blyth on the 309  before returning home after Arriving back at newcastle on the 309

Presidents 6935-40 will be reserved for the 491/309 every morning non-fri

PM (towards heworth only)

Time       depot                allocation
14:30   Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
14:50       Riverside             vyking
15:10     Washington           gemini
15:30     Saltmeadows   ex EYMS president
15:50     Riverside          ex london president
15:50     Riverside          ex london gemini
16:10     Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
16:30     Riverside              vyking
16:50     Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
17:10     Washington           citaro


All Washington runs run onto the 4
All saltmeadows runs run onto a short 26 to Newcastle
All riverside runs run onto a short 27 run to Newcastle
(PM only)
6937-40 are reserved for the 490/26 on mon to fri afternoons

(07 Jan 2019, 6:48 pm)GNE6312 wrote 490
Quorum business park
Balliol business park
West farm avenue
Four lane ends
Coach lane campus
Walkergate
Byker
Gateshead interchange
High west street
Old durham road
QE hospital
Windy nook
Heworth

Every 20 mins

Time/depot/allocation tabel for am (towards wuorum only for am)


Time         depot           allocation
6:00*    Saltmeadows ex EYMS president
6:20*    Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
6:40      saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
7:00       riverside                vyking
7:20       riverside        ex london gemini
7:40       riverside        ex london gemini
8:00       riverside       ex london president
8:20    Saltmeadows ex EYMS president
8:40     Saltmeadows ex EYMS presidents
9:00   Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president

* this service terminates at coach lane campus

All AM runs run NIS to Newcastle and do a return trip to blyth on the 309  before returning home after Arriving back at newcastle on the 309

Presidents 6935-40 will be reserved for the 491/309 every morning non-fri

PM (towards heworth only)

Time       depot                allocation
14:30   Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
14:50       Riverside             vyking
15:10     Washington           gemini
15:30     Saltmeadows   ex EYMS president
15:50     Riverside          ex london president
15:50     Riverside          ex london gemini
16:10     Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
16:30     Riverside              vyking
16:50     Saltmeadows  ex EYMS president
17:10     Washington           citaro


All Washington runs run onto the 4
All saltmeadows runs run onto a short 26 to Newcastle
All riverside runs run onto a short 27 run to Newcastle
(PM only)
6937-40 are reserved for the 490/26 on mon to fri afternoons

I think the allocation choice will just fit your benefit and not Go North East or passengers as they just want a bus no fuss over if it is ex Eyms or not. Arriva cover quorum pretty well so can't see a need for Go North East to go there.

(08 Jan 2019, 6:51 pm)GNE6312 wrote

687

Hexham

Riding mill

A68

Castleside

Tow law

West aukland

Staindrop

Banard castle

Every hour

Estimated journey time: 71 mins (journey times from google maps)

Departure time from hexham: on the hour 8:00-20:00

Arrival at barnard castle 11 mins past each our 9:11-21:11

Departure times from barnard castle: 20 past the hour (9 min layover at barnard castle) 8:21-21:21

Arrival at Hexham: 31 mins past each hour 9:31-22:31)

Pointless, it doesn't even serve the Town of Bishop Auckland, also I can't see many fare paying passengers on it as it doesn't connect them with many major retail or leisure faciltys. Also considering the mileage the proposed driver has done, 9 minutes is the best that he or she can be offered. Should really think of where people want to go before flooding the suggestions thread with unnecessary suggestions.

(08 Jan 2019, 6:51 pm)GNE6312 wrote

687

Hexham

Riding mill

A68

Castleside

Tow law

West aukland

Staindrop

Banard castle

Every hour

Estimated journey time: 71 mins (journey times from google maps)

Departure time from hexham: on the hour 8:00-20:00

Arrival at barnard castle 11 mins past each our 9:11-21:11

Departure times from barnard castle: 20 past the hour (9 min layover at barnard castle) 8:21-21:21

Arrival at Hexham: 31 mins past each hour 9:31-22:31)

(08 Jan 2019, 7:20 pm)S830OFT wrote Pointless, it doesn't even serve the Town of Bishop Auckland, also I can't see many fare paying passengers on it as it doesn't connect them with many major retail or leisure faciltys. Also considering the mileage the proposed driver has done, 9 minutes is the best that he or she can be offered. Should really think of where people want to go before flooding the suggestions thread with unnecessary suggestions.

I would probably agree that it'd be worth diverting into Crook and Bishop Auckland and even then the only scope would probably be a summer ramblers service maybe?

Looking at the timing... Google tells me following A695, A68, A688 and A67 it takes 1 hour 10 minutes from Hexam to Barnard Castle, which is pretty much what you had it as. I'd suggest adding a bit more time for it to actually stop for passengers. As a comparison Google maps says it'd take 22 minutes to drive route 43 including it's detours through Ushaw Moor and Esh Winning. Arriva's timetable states the jouney time at 26 minutes and still can't get them to run on time!

Extend 4 to metrocentre via gateshead and begone with the X66. Adds new direct link from Heworth to Metrocentre whilst at it.

Current 58

Extend from Heworth alternate journeys to Boldon Asda via Wardley and Testos Roundabout. Operating a loop from Testos via West Boldon. Boldom Bank. Boldon Asda Boldon Cinema and back to Testos returning to Heworth and back onwards to Newcastle as normal.

(10 Jan 2019, 4:58 pm)ifm001 wrote Current 58

Extend from Heworth alternate journeys to Boldon Asda via Wardley and Testos Roundabout. Operating a loop from Testos via West Boldon. Boldom Bank. Boldon Asda Boldon Cinema and back to Testos returning to Heworth and back onwards to Newcastle as normal.

Could you not just do that with the 57 since that already serves Wardley anyway

(10 Jan 2019, 10:30 pm)V514DFT wrote Could you not just do that with the 57 since that already serves Wardley anyway

Not with the 57 current route. It emerges onto the A184 from Fairways Estate in the wrong direction. 

You could remove the 57 from Fairways and extend direct to Boldon Asda and revise the 58 to extend to Fairways as an alternative though.

(11 Jan 2019, 4:32 am)ifm001 wrote Not with the 57 current route. It emerges onto the A184 from Fairways Estate in the wrong direction. 

You could remove the 57 from Fairways and extend direct to Boldon Asda and revise the 58 to extend to Fairways as an alternative though.

Could make it just serce Keir Hardie then back over to Lingey Lane / Bus loop a U turn onto the East bound A184. Would be a bit silly on a map but could make it work.

(10 Jan 2019, 10:51 am)Jamie M wrote Extend 4 to metrocentre via gateshead and begone with the X66. Adds new direct link from Heworth to Metrocentre whilst at it.

Reliability would be horrendous given how tight the 4 is for time between Houghton and Heworth as it is.

I would suggest merging the 4 and 58 together however.

(11 Jan 2019, 9:00 pm)Malarkey wrote Reliability would be horrendous given how tight the 4 is for time between Houghton and Heworth as it is.

I would suggest merging the 4 and 58 together however.

It wouldnt make any difference to a customer cause the X66s run far off time too at times like. Could do with some re-timing but would be interesting to see if it's a corridor worth upgrading.

(13 Jan 2019, 9:03 am)GNE6312 wrote 3
North shields
Royal quays
Tyne tunnel
Jsrrow
Boldon cinema
West boldon
East boldon
Seaburn
Roker
Sunderland
Grangetown
Ryhope
Seaham
Dalton park
Peterlee

Every 30 mins

X3
North shields
Jarrow
Boldon cinema
West boldon
East boldon
Sunderland
Hendon
Dalton park
Peterlee
Blackhall coliery
Blackhall rocks
Crimdon
Hartlepool

Every 30 mins


These services will bring back the much needed north shields to sunderland passage every 15 mins aswell as connecting north shields to hendon, grangetown, ryhope, dalton park, peterlee & hartlepool most of which accessable by 2 or 3 buses or 2 metros and a bus or a bus and train is and will now be accessable by one bus thanks to tgese services.

What do you think?

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3
North shields
Royal quays
Tyne tunnel
Jsrrow
Boldon cinema
West boldon
East boldon
Seaburn
Roker
Sunderland
Grangetown
Ryhope
Seaham
Dalton park
Peterlee

Every 30 mins

X3
North shields
Jarrow
Boldon cinema
West boldon
East boldon
Sunderland
Hendon
Dalton park
Peterlee
Blackhall coliery
Blackhall rocks
Crimdon
Hartlepool

Every 30 mins


These services will bring back the much needed north shields to sunderland passage every 15 mins aswell as connecting north shields to hendon, grangetown, ryhope, dalton park, peterlee & hartlepool most of which accessable by 2 or 3 buses or 2 metros and a bus or a bus and train is and will now be accessable by one bus thanks to tgese services.

What do you think?

Nexus pay for the North Shields - Jarrow section which is why the frequency has remained at Every 30 Minutes.

To take on the shrudy so called 'Sapphire' 43/44/45

- 58 extended to Cramlington via Gosforth, Regent Centre, Wideopen, Seaton Burn, Dudley and Southfield Green.
- Buses towards Heworth will call at Barras Bridge then via St Mary's Place and John Dobson Street before continuing normal route to Heworth from New Bridge Street.
- Buses towards Cramlington will call at Pilgrim Street, John Dobson Street and Haymarket Bus Station.
- Monday to Saturday daytime buses will operate every 10 minutes.
- Evening buses will operate every 30 minutes and will be timed to depart Haymarket at xx:00 and xx:30. Last bus to Cramlington will leave Haymarket at 23:30.
- Sunday daytime buses will operate every 15 minutes to Seaton Burn Bridge Street continuing every 30 minutes to Dudley, Southfield Green and Cramlington.

AND.........

Hourly N58 service to run on Friday and Saturday evenings covering the whole route.

PVRs
Monday to Saturday daytime: 20
Evenings: 5
Sundays: 12

(18 Jan 2019, 10:09 pm)L469 YVK wrote To take on the shrudy so called 'Sapphire' 43/44/45

- 58 extended to Cramlington via Gosforth, Regent Centre, Wideopen, Seaton Burn, Dudley and Southfield Green.
- Buses towards Heworth will call at Barras Bridge then via St Mary's Place and John Dobson Street before continuing normal route to Heworth from New Bridge Street.
- Buses towards Cramlington will call at Pilgrim Street, John Dobson Street and Haymarket Bus Station.
- Monday to Saturday daytime buses will operate every 10 minutes.
- Evening buses will operate every 30 minutes and will be timed to depart Haymarket at xx:00 and xx:30. Last bus to Cramlington will leave Haymarket at 23:30.
- Sunday daytime buses will operate every 15 minutes to Seaton Burn Bridge Street continuing every 30 minutes to Dudley, Southfield Green and Cramlington.

AND.........

Hourly N58 service to run on Friday and Saturday evenings covering the whole route.

Could edit the route through Heaton and to Shieldfield on N58 for the units

(19 Jan 2019, 12:20 am)JM03 wrote Could edit the route through Heaton and to Shieldfield on N58 for the units

How could the route be edited through Heaton and Shieldfield if it was going to Cramlington haha? (No sarcasm intended)

(19 Jan 2019, 12:34 am)L469 YVK wrote How could the route be edited through Heaton and Shieldfield if it was going to Cramlington haha? (No sarcasm intended)

Have it go via Freeman Hospital, South Gosforth up to the High Street.

(19 Jan 2019, 5:31 am)S830OFT wrote Have it go via Freeman Hospital, South Gosforth up to the High Street.

What about an express at peak times too?

57 extended to Cobalt to eeze pressure off the 309/310 at peak times the route in cobalt will operate the same route around cobalt as the SC 22

20 - Durham – Gilesgate Moor – Belmont – West Rainton – East Rainton – Hall Lane Estate – Houghton-le-Spring – East Herrington – Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland City Centre – Fulwell – Cleadon – Harton Nook – South Shields

Replaces service 35 between Durham Road and Sunderland City Centre operating additionally via Sunderland Royal Hospital opening a few new links to the Hospital from Durham and South Shields.

32 - Heworth - Boldon - Town End Farm - Castletown - Southwick - Sunderland

Merging of service 35/36 operating Every 20 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday.

33 - Chester-Le-Street - Great Lumley - Fence Houses - Houghton-Le-Spring - Newbottle - East Herrington - Silksworth - Hollycarrside - Leechmere Road - Ashbrooke - Sunderland City Centre

33A - Low Moorsley - Hetton-Le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Houghton-Le-Spring - Newbottle - East Herrington - Silksworth - Hollycarrside - Leechmere Road - Ashbrooke - Sunderland City Centre  

Merging of the existing 33/33A/35/36 and 38 operating a combined Every 10 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Half Hourly on a Sunday.

700A - Park Lane Interchange - City Campus - Clanny House - City Campus - Park Lane Interchange - Stadium of Light - St Peter's Campus - The Docks - Park Lane Interchange

Additionally serving the Docks replacing the existing 33 on an Hourly basis Monday to Saturday.

(08 Feb 2019, 9:28 pm)Malarkey wrote 20 - Durham – Gilesgate Moor – Belmont – West Rainton – East Rainton – Hall Lane Estate – Houghton-le-Spring – East Herrington – Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland City Centre – Fulwell – Cleadon – Harton Nook – South Shields

Replaces service 35 between Durham Road and Sunderland City Centre operating additionally via Sunderland Royal Hospital opening a few new links to the Hospital from Durham and South Shields.

32 - Heworth - Boldon - Town End Farm - Castletown - Southwick - Sunderland

Merging of service 35/36 operating Every 20 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday.

33 - Chester-Le-Street - Great Lumley - Fence Houses - Houghton-Le-Spring - Newbottle - East Herrington - Silksworth - Hollycarrside - Leechmere Road - Ashbrooke - Sunderland City Centre

33A - Low Moorsley - Hetton-Le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Houghton-Le-Spring - Newbottle - East Herrington - Silksworth - Hollycarrside - Leechmere Road - Ashbrooke - Sunderland City Centre  

Merging of the existing 33/33A/35/36 and 38 operating a combined Every 10 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Half Hourly on a Sunday.

700A - Park Lane Interchange - City Campus - Clanny House - City Campus - Park Lane Interchange - Stadium of Light - St Peter's Campus - The Docks - Park Lane Interchange

Additionally serving the Docks replacing the existing 33 on an Hourly basis Monday to Saturday.

700A won't work because Nexus offer the Docks section on a Every 30 minutes basis, and the 33 was revised so that passengers could have a service in both directions...
Also I don't think those from the University would want to round the Docks to reach the Town.

Peterlee Suggestion:
X6/X7: Removed from serving Bourdon Road and Holmeside, instead will just observe Sunderland Interchange. These services will be revised to serve Ryhope Village and Ryhope Hospice, then operating along the seafront to Seaham.

X9: Journeys to Middlesbrough will additionaly call at East Durham Collage, aswell as the A19 Slip Road. This will allow local residents and students easier access to these services.

X10: Evening and Sunday Journeys to Middlesbrough will additionaly call at East Durham Collage, aswell as the A19 Slip Road. This will allow local residents and students easier access to these services.

X11: Peterlee - A19 - Wingate - Station Town - A19 - Billingham - Stockton - A19 - Middlesbrough. This service will provide a direct link to Teeside from areas in County Durham. Aswell as providing a link between Stockton and Billingham for Go North East Ticket Holders. This service will operate up to Every 2 Hours.

201: Daytime Journeys reduced to hourly.

202: Extended back to Sunderland replacing service 238, although after Ryhope Village this service will follow the 9/60 section to Sunderland. This service will however serve Bourdon Road and Holmeside. This service will no longer serve Wingate and Station Town, this section is covered by new service X11.

238: This service will only operate between Seaham and Washington. After Barnwell the service will run via Biddick. Evening and Sunday journeys will remain as current...

38: Revised to operate every 30 minutes Monday to Saturday Daytimes.

Service 201 and 209 will operate hourly using the same vehicle for the entire day...

Service 202 and 208 Easington Village Bound Journeys will operate hourly interworking at Peterlee with a PVR of 4.

Service 210 will interwork with both services 204/208. PVR of 4

Service 238 will be operated out of Washington with a PVR of 3.

Service 265 will return to stand-alone and revert back to Chester Le Street operation.

Vehicle Allocations:
X6/X7: 0691 - 0694
X9/X10: 6308 - 6314
201/209: 0655 - 0656
202/208EV: 0657 - 0660
204/208/210: 0661 - 0664
206: 0665
238: 0698 - 0700
Peterlee Spares: 0666/0718
265: 0719/0720
X11: 5338 (If 5338 is unavailable an IndiGo Solo will operate)

What’s going to replace 238 Houghton Centre - New Seaham Estate?

(25 Feb 2019, 8:08 pm)TyneWearTeesGNE wrote What’s going to replace 238 Houghton Centre - New Seaham Estate?

It will be the current 238...

Could the Q3 continue from Great Park to Kingston Park Shops, via Brunton Lane? The 42A links Wallsend to Kingston Park, but the Q3 could serve Kingston Park from the City Centre. There is a lack of GNE services in the West End of Newcastle.

New 3/X3 suggestion

3
North shields
Jarrow
Fellgate
Boldon Coliery
Boldon ASDA
West boldon
East boldon
Seaburn
Roker
Stadium of light
Sunderland royal hospital
University of Sunderland
Sunderland park lane

Every hour

X3
North shields
Jarrow
Fellgate
Boldon coliery
Boldon ASDA
Boldon cinema
A19
Wessington way
Sunderland park lane
Ryhope
Dalton park
Peterlee

Every hour

These services will allow the 5 to be withdrawn from jarrow to north shields however will allow it to extend to heworth via Hebburn & pelaw

(03 Mar 2019, 9:01 am)GNE6312 wrote New 3/X3 suggestion

3
North shields
Jarrow
Fellgate
Boldon Coliery
Boldon ASDA
West boldon
East boldon
Seaburn
Roker
Stadium of light
Sunderland royal hospital
University of Sunderland
Sunderland park lane

Every hour

X3
North shields
Jarrow
Fellgate
Boldon coliery
Boldon ASDA
Boldon cinema
A19
Wessington way
Sunderland park lane
Ryhope
Dalton park
Peterlee

Every hour

These services will allow the 5 to be withdrawn from jarrow to north shields however will allow it to extend to heworth via Hebburn & pelaw

5 doesn’t need extending as the 9 goes from Jarrow to Hebburn one way and 26/27 the other way,there’s no point in adding another and add to the fact the metro there’s no need to add

24 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Wardley - Fellgate - Boldon - Whiteleas - West Harton - South Tyneside District Hospital - Chichester - Westoe - South Shields

Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday replacing service 5 from Fellgate to South Shields.

25 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Wardley - Leam Lane - Fellgate - South Leam - South Tyneside Hospital - Westoe - South Shields

Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday.

29 - Kibblesworth – Team Valley South - Low Fell – Bensham – Gateshead - Newcastle City Centre

Extension into Newcastle City Centre offering those of Kibblesworth an improved service Monday to Saturday operating Hourly. 

35A - North Shields - Royal Quays - Jarrow - Hedworth - Fellgate - Boldon - Town End Farm - Castletown - Southwick - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Silksworth - East Herrington - Newbottle - Houghton-le-Spring - Hetton Downs - Hetton-le-Hole - Low Moorsley


Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday replacing service 5.

(03 Mar 2019, 8:23 pm)Malarkey wrote 24 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Wardley - Fellgate - Boldon - Whiteleas - West Harton - South Tyneside District Hospital - Chichester - Westoe - South Shields

Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday replacing service 5 from Fellgate to South Shields.

25 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Wardley - Leam Lane - Fellgate - South Leam - South Tyneside Hospital - Westoe - South Shields

Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday.

29 - Kibblesworth – Team Valley South - Low Fell – Bensham – Gateshead - Newcastle City Centre

Extension into Newcastle City Centre offering those of Kibblesworth an improved service Monday to Saturday operating Hourly. 

35A - North Shields - Royal Quays - Jarrow - Hedworth - Fellgate - Boldon - Town End Farm - Castletown - Southwick - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Silksworth - East Herrington - Newbottle - Houghton-le-Spring - Hetton Downs - Hetton-le-Hole - Low Moorsley


Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday replacing service 5.

29 would have to interwork with something else, or have large layovers, as it only has 6 minutes spare each round trip.

(03 Mar 2019, 8:35 pm)pbjd wrote 29 would have to interwork with something else, or have large layovers, as it only has 6 minutes spare each round trip.

For it to work it would need an extra 20 minutes added to the timetable for going in and out of town and an extra vehicle added to the PVR and still have the 6 minutes spare for each round trip, 2 at Kibblesworth, 2 at Gateshead and 2 in town.