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RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations

(19 Jun 2019, 4:06 pm)Jimmi wrote My guess is 3 Volvo B5s for Coastliner to replace the remaining B9s


I thought the remaining B9's had been replaced last year by the newer 68 plate B5's with some the B9's having moved over to Rosso.

RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
South Yorkshire

Well, with September approaching, Travel South Yorkshire have posted their service change details for the new school year - which sees a major revision of services, mainly in the Sheffield area as followed:

[*]First's 1a (High Green to Herdings) is replaced by new services 11 and 11a - the 11 directly replaces the 1a between Chapeltown and Herdings every 15 minutes, while the 11a links Northern General Hospital to Herdings also every 15 minutes. Between the City Centre and Herdings, the 11a replaces the 56.
[*]First's 3/3a (Meadowhall to Nether Edge via City Centre) is withdrawn - the Meadowhall-City section is replaced by an extension of the 95 (currently Walkley to City), while the City-Nether Edge section is replaced by a diverted 56 following the replacement of the Herdings-City section of that service.
[*]The Meadowhall-Hillsborough corridor is reduced from every 30 minutes (hourly on both the 35 and 38) to hourly - with the 38 replaced by an extended 18 (City Centre to Meadowhall via Woodseats, Gleadless and Darnall) and the 35 withdrawn. The Firth Park-Meadowhall frequency will remains at 8 buses an hour with the extension of PTE-contracted service 32 (currently City Centre to Firth Park via Foxhill and Northern General Hospital) to Meadowhall which passes to First from the change.
[*]The Evening short journeys on the 57 pass to First from Stagecoach, along with the early Sunday morning journeys between Sheffield and Stocksbridge. The Sunday journeys on the 57a between Hillsborough, Oughtibridge, Worrall and Hillsborough also pass from TM Travel to First, however they are replaced by standard 57 trips between Hillsborough and Oughtibridge, running via Worrall in both directions.
[*]Chancet Wood sees their fourth route change since the 2015 Partnership recast - the current 19 service is withdrawn, with Chancet Wood served by the diversion of one 76 journey an hour to the estate as a 76a.
[*]A number of PTE contracts are withdrawn due to commercial replacements being available - the 4 (City Centre to Bents Green or Ringinglow) and the evening 4a (City Centre to Millhouses Tesco) are replaced due to the diversion of the 218 to serve Psalter Lane (Ringinglow will be served by a revised 181); the 31/31b (City Centre to Loxley via Lower Walkley and Hillsborough) are replaced between the City Centre and Hillsborough by diverted First service 135/135a, and between Hillsborough and Loxley by First's 52a every 30 minutes
[*]All contracts operated by Sheffield Community Transport have either been won by other operators or withdrawn - one of the major ones is the 268 and M92, both of which pass to Stagecoach; the 268 (Hillsborough to Wharncliffe Side) is renumbered the 58, while the M92 (currently Foxhill to Harley) is extended from Foxhill to Hillsborough replacing the 35 but on a reduced frequency of every 2 hours.
[*]Powells have drastically increased their presence in Sheffield as a result of the above - from SCT, they have won the 10/10a (the Inner Circle - Manor Top to Manor Top via Gleadless Valley, Hallamshire Hospital and City Centre) and the 5 (City Centre to Firth Park). From TM Travel, they have won the 61/62 (Hillsborough to Bradfield), and from Stagecoach the 35a (Chapeltown to Thorncliffe Industrial Estate) and the 201 (Chapeltown to Stocksbridge). However, the daytime journeys on the X7 are withdrawn - with it reverting back to a peak time only route.
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
Transdev - York & Country

Confirmation from Alex Hornsby on his personal Twitter account - due here in addition to the 5 Wright Streetdecks for CityZap, are 5 short wheelbase Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMCs for newly won City of York Council-funded services. These are:
19 (York City Centre to Skelton) Saturday journeys
24 (Acomb to City Centre)
25 (Fulford to Derwenthorpe via City Centre)
26 (Fulford to South Bank via City Centre)
14 (Foxwood to Haxby via City Centre) - Haxby to City all evening, City to Foxwood after 2130 (First will operate the 12 on a commercial basis until that time between Monks Cross and Foxwood via the City Centre).
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
The first two Wright Streetdecks have arrived at Arriva Yorkshire Wakefield Depot - they are 1576 SN69ZXK and 1577 SN69ZXL. Two of (I believe) 18 on order to be operated on busy Sspphire route 110 between Leeds and Hall Green.

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RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations

First

York

Transferred in as Volvo B7L and B7TL replacements are Volvo B9TL/Wright Geminis 37385/7 (MX58 DWU/W) from Manchester and 37676-9/82/5 (YJ09 FVG/H/K/L/O/F) from Leeds. Further transfers due from Manchester are the first Wright Streetlites for the fleet.

West Yorkshire

Leeds Bramley depot's fleet of E400s have began transferring to Halifax this week - 33878/9 (SN14 TVF/J) so far reported at Halifax.

South Yorkshire

Newly transferred in to this fleet are:

Doncaster: Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 66842/3/5 (MX05 CGG/K/U) from Leicester (66843 retains the Pink fronted 'Olympia 2' livery from Leicester at present)
Sheffield Olive Grove: Volvo B9TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini 37754/6 (YJ59 KSV/Z) from Leeds Bramley, Volvo B9TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini2 36254-6 (BG12 YJL/M/N) from Leeds Hunslet Park, Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 2 69521-6 (BD11 CEN/U/O/V, CFA, CEY) from Manchester (ex-Bolton) and Wright Streetlite 47466-73 (SN14
DZM/O/P, EAA/C/E/F/G) from Oldham.

Wright Streetlite Max Mirco-Hybrids 63370/2-5/81/3/4 (SL16 RAX, RBO/U/V/X, RCV/Y/Z) have transferred from Doncaster to First Hampshire & Dorset's Hoeford depot. Their place at Doncaster has been taken by older sister 63026/9/30/2/3/5-7 (SK63 KHC/F/G/J/L/O/P/R).

All remaining Volvo B7TL/Plaxton Presidents at Olive Grove are now operating in active reserve, along with Alexander-bodied 30578 (WU02 KVW), 31145 (YU52 VYX) and 31786 (YN53 EOL). All are due for cascade elsewhere within the next few months.

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Stagecoach Yorkshire

The first of Sheffield's Enviro200MMCs entered service earlier in the week - this is 37602 (YX69 NWU). These are replacing Enviro200s at Holbrook depot as well as their pair of Darts, with the majority of the E200s moving to Rawmarsh to replace their remaining Darts.
[Image: 48745305441_4e41f649e3_b.jpg]Stagecoach Yorkshire 37602 YX69 NWU - Low Edges by JPT Photos, on Flickr
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Stagecoach Yorkshire

The entry into service of the new short Enviro200MMCs at Sheffield Holbrook has resulted in the following cascades (thanks to Steven Knight Media):

Enviro 200MMCs
26085/86/87 Chesterfield to Barnsley

MAN/ALX300
22435 Disposal to Reserve (Barnsley)
22449 Disposal to Reserve (Ecclesfield)

MAN/Enviro 300s
22543/44/59/61/63 Ecclesfield to Barnsley
22614/16/17 Ecclesfield to Rawmarsh
22612/3 Ecclesfield to Chesterfield
22615 Ecclesfield to Reserve

Enviro200s
36186-92.408-13 Holbrook to Ecclesfield
36715/16 Barnsley to Ecclesfield
36719 Barnsley to Holbrook
37102 Chesterfield to Rawmarsh

Pointer Darts
34460/63 Chesterfield to Disposal
34581 Holbrook to Disposal
34582/83/720 Chesterfield to Reserve
35112 Holbrook to Reserve
35116/227/61/2 Barnsley to Chesterfield
35231 Rawmarsh to Chesterfield

Chesterfield-based 'Gold' Scania E400 15190-2 are now branded for new service X1 (Chesterfield - Clay Cross - Alfreton - East Midlands Designer Outlet - Nottingham) which starts on Sunday (15192 has therefore lost its short-lived branding for the 50) and are to be receive Euro6 modifications.

10 Gold-specification Scania E400s are due to transfer from Oxford once their new E400MMCs have entered service. Reports elsewhere suggest 5 will be allocated to Chesterfield, where they will be allocated to the 50 group in place of the native examples now branded for the X1, while the other 5 will be allocated to Barnsley depot to convert the X10 (Barnsley to Leeds express) to full time double decker operation (and supposedly additionally allow Barnsley to operate their X17 turns with Gold-spec vehicles).
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations

(25 Oct 2019, 1:15 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Stagecoach Yorkshire

Chesterfield-based 'Gold' Scania E400 15190-2 are now branded for new service X1 (Chesterfield - Clay Cross - Alfreton - East Midlands Designer Outlet - Nottingham) which starts on Sunday (15192 has therefore lost its short-lived branding for the 50) and are to be receive Euro6 modifications.

10 Gold-specification Scania E400s are due to transfer from Oxford once their new E400MMCs have entered service. Reports elsewhere suggest 5 will be allocated to Chesterfield, where they will be allocated to the 50 group in place of the native examples now branded for the X1, while the other 5 will be allocated to Barnsley depot to convert the X10 (Barnsley to Leeds express) to full time double decker operation (and supposedly additionally allow Barnsley to operate their X17 turns with Gold-spec vehicles).


The aforementioned branding on 15190

[Image: 48977980287_32186fcb55_b.jpg]Stagecoach Yorkshire 15190 YN64 AOA - Nottingham by JPT Photos, on Flickr


RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
First

York

The Versa EVs and Citaros are in the process of being repainted and fitted with NSAs and USBs (plus full refurbishement for the Citaros) by Bus and Coach World ahead of the delivery of the 21 Metrodeckers for the Park & Ride network. A new dark blue livery is being rolled out, as shown below by 49910 and 11102
[Image: 49054970698_6fd3dfe014_5k.jpg]First York 49910 YJ15AYM by Bob, on Flickr
[Image: 49091291187_ad85d5588a_5k.jpg]First York 11102 BG58OLT by Bob, on Flickr

Leeds & West Yorkshire

As mentioned elsewhere, Leeds is the first operation to resume delivery of new Wrightbus Stock following the company's rescue. So far delivered are Streetdecks 35600/2-4 - these examples debut a fifth colour branding on the Leeds City livery, that of Grey for use on services 4/4G (Seacroft to Pudsey) and 16/16A (Whinmoor to Pudsey).

South Yorkshire

Following their return from loan to Diamond North West after the sale of Bolton depot, E400 33705/17/20/25/55 (SN12 AHO, AKF/K/X, AOR) have transferred from the Manchester fleet for use at Olive Grove depot as replacements for the Volvo B7TL/Alexander ALX400s.[/u]
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
(25 Oct 2019, 1:15 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Stagecoach Yorkshire

10 Gold-specification Scania E400s are due to transfer from Oxford once their new E400MMCs have entered service. Reports elsewhere suggest 5 will be allocated to Chesterfield, where they will be allocated to the 50 group in place of the native examples now branded for the X1, while the other 5 will be allocated to Barnsley depot to convert the X10 (Barnsley to Leeds express) to full time double decker operation (and supposedly additionally allow Barnsley to operate their X17 turns with Gold-spec vehicles).

Some slight changes, only 8 Gold-spec Scania E400s are due here from Oxford - so far transferred are 15534/5/7 (VX59 JCY/Z, JDJ) with sister 15536 (VX59 JDF) also expected.
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
(24 Nov 2019, 9:30 am)Kuyoyo wrote First

Leeds & West Yorkshire

As mentioned elsewhere, Leeds is the first operation to resume delivery of new Wrightbus Stock following the company's rescue. So far delivered are Streetdecks 35600/2-4 - these examples debut a fifth colour branding on the Leeds City livery, that of Grey for use on services 4/4G (Seacroft to Pudsey) and 16/16A (Whinmoor to Pudsey).

35600/1 entered service yesterday - unlike the previous batches of Streetdecks, these have Yorkshire registrations - YE69 YFX/W
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128789124@...datetaken/
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
(27 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Some slight changes, only 8 Gold-spec Scania E400s are due here from Oxford - so far transferred are 15534/5/7 (VX59 JCY/Z, JDJ) with sister 15536 (VX59 JDF) also expected.

Also now confirmed are 15609/10 (OU10 BHA/D) which have also be confirmed as Barnsley-based for the X10.
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
First South Yorkshire

Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini 2s 36221-4/7/37/40-2/6 have transferred from Leeds Hunslet Park to Sheffield Olive Grove.
Olive Grove have lost B7RLE 69025/44 to Doncaster. Also due to move to Doncaster are B9TL 37106/8, both of which are currently at Volvo's Crossroads dealership in Rotherham for work.
Streetdecks 35117/31 have transferred to Leicester - all the 'SteelLink' livered examples are due to transferr.
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
York Pullman have added a Volvo B7RLE Wright AE12FGM to their fleet branded for the 36 route York to Elvington, and Volvo B10BLE T128OAH has gone on loan to Reliance whilst Euro6 upgrades take place on parts of their fleet.

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West Yorkshire

Full details of the latest batch of Leeds Streetdecks are as followed (taken from the 'Travel West Yorkshire' forum)
Hunslet Park (all carry the Green Wedge 'All Routes' livery)
35583 (not arrived yet)
35584 (not arrived yet)
35585 (not arrived yet)
35586 (not arrived yet)
35587 YE69YGF
35588 YE69YGZ
35589 YE69YGY
35590 YE69YGX
35591 YE69YGW
35592 (not arrived yet)
35593 (not arrived yet)
35594 (not arrived yet)
35595 YE69YGD
35596 YE69YGC
35597 YE69YGA
35598 YE69YFZ
35599 YE69YFY
Bramley (Wedge colour in brackets)
35600 YE69YFX (Grey)
35601 YE69YFW (Grey)
35602 YE69YFV (Grey)
35603 YE69YFU (Grey)
35604 YE69YFT (Grey)
35605 YE69YGP (Grey)
35606 YE69YGO (Grey)
35607 YE69YGN (Grey)
35608 YE69YGM (Grey)
35609 YE69YGL (Grey)
35610 YE69YGK (Grey)
35611 YE69YGJ (Grey)
35612 YE69YGH (Grey)
35613 YE69YGG (Grey)
35614 YE69YGV (Grey)
35615 YE69YGU (Grey)
35616 YE69YGT (Grey)
35617 (not arrived yet)
35618 (not arrived yet)
35619 (not arrived yet)
35620 (not arrived yet)
35621 (not arrived yet)
35622 (not arrived yet)
35623 (not arrived yet)
35624 (not arrived yet)
35625 YE69YGR (Grey)
35626 YE69YHN (Grey)
35627 YE69YHM (Grey)
35628 YE69YHL (Grey)
35629 YE69YHK (Grey)
35630 YE69YHJ (Grey)
35631 (not arrived yet)
35632 YE69YHH (Grey)
35633 (not arrived yet)
35634 YE69YHG (Grey)
35635 YE69YHF (Grey)
35636 YE69YHB (Yellow)
35637 YE69YHA (Yellow)

Further cascades taken place so far:
Internal
37687-8/720-3/5-8/30/52/3/5 have moved from Bramley to Hunslet Park
37714-7 have transferred from Bramley to Bradford
External
B7TLs 37021-5/34/5 are due to move to Eastern Counties
B9TLs 37671/3 have transferred to Cymru at Swansea

South Yorkshire

At currently, all but 2 of the remaining 26 B9TL/Gemini 2s due from West Yorkshire have arrived at Olive Grove - 36225/45 are the 2 outstanding
B9TLs 37103/529 have transferred from Olive Grove to Doncaster, while Streetlite 63378 will be going the other way once removal of its allover wrap has taken place.
Service changes at the end of January see further reductions in the Rotherham area (the X1/X10 reduced to every 10 minutes Monday to Friday between Maltby and Rotherham, continuing to Sheffield 4 times an hour; 22a/22c reduced to a combined 20 minute frequency; 10 extended down from Maltby replacing the 113 but reduced to hourly between Maltby and Doncaster). In addition, 11 vehicles of work in the Rotherham area will be operated by Doncaster depot from that date.[/b]
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PB0000328/315 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Ellerton to Woldgate College
Service number: 4W (4W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020

PB0000328/418 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Wilberfoss to Woldgate College
Service number: 6W (6W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020

PB0000328/423 Registered (Short notice)
EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED
Route: Wilberfoss to Woldgate College
Service number: 5W (5W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2020
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RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
(02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm)Adrian wrote I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile

Interesting read, I'm not usually one to complain, but leg room on pretty much all of GNE's fleet is horrendous. It is physically impossible for me to sit straight on the seats, hence why my first choice is to go for a table on the StreetDecks/E400s, or the emergency exit on a single decker. Failing that, I have no choice but to sit sideways and take up both seats, so it's great to see that some operators are sacrificing capacity for passenger comfort!

I'm a big fan of EVs, although with an electric drivetrain being so quiet, it's really noticeable when the bus itself is of low quality. The Yutongs for example, when they had the trial on the X66, it was creaker than the windows on the E200s! and you could fee the weight of the batteries on the roof going round corners. The same with the E200 EV that GNE trialed last year, things that were normally not noticeable over the sound of the engine, were very noticeable! Going off what you wrote, it seems like this wasn't an issue with the Volvos so that's also great to see!

I'm not a fan of that NSA system they have installed, the screen seems a bit too crowded for my liking. I much prefer what GNE have done with the newer system with the next stop taking up the full screen, although it is handy to see the next few stops you can get prepared to leave, which would be handy on a longer route where you're more likely to have things like phone chargers and tablets to put away.

The issue you mentioned about the tables not having stop buttons is the same issue with the E400s, if you're sitting at a table, you have to lean over and push the stop button in front of someone else, which can be quite awkward. Also, I've been on an E400 a few times where the stop buttons on the seats haven't worked at all, so it was only sheer luck that someone downstairs was getting off at my stop, as I didn't have time to walk to the front of the bus to push the only proper stop button (which is a chore in and of itself with the low height upstairs!)

The thing that shocked me (being a user of Durham Bus Station) was when you mentioned the supervisor telling the driver to go round to not block the stand. They need some at Durham to do that with Arriva!
RE: Yorkshire Bus Operations
(02 Feb 2020, 10:55 pm)Adrian wrote I've not written a blog post for a while, but here's my latest piece after finally managing to try out the Harrogate Electrics: https://busesandbeyond.wordpress.com/202...wn-travel/

Comments and thoughts appreciated Smile
There's no bell for the back row of seats either which was annoying the first time I rode one, not knowing the other seats had bells on the side I had to walk to the front of the bus and press a bell or hope someone would want the same stop as me, actually had similar issue sat at the front of 4811 the other night.

Harrogate Bus Station is rather irritating for someone like myself as I'm a bit impatient and there's not much space to navigate your way through it, always either get stuck behind someone walking really slowly and can't get past them or people stand in a position that makes it so you can't get past them.
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(05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am)streetdeckfan wrote I'm a big fan of EVs, although with an electric drivetrain being so quiet, it's really noticeable when the bus itself is of low quality. The Yutongs for example, when they had the trial on the X66, it was creaker than the windows on the E200s! and you could fee the weight of the batteries on the roof going round corners. The same with the E200 EV that GNE trialed last year, things that were normally not noticeable over the sound of the engine, were very noticeable! Going off what you wrote, it seems like this wasn't an issue with the Volvos so that's also great to see!

The quality difference between these and the Streetair EVs that Lothian have is streets apart. The Volvo is just a far superior product, but having used the hybrids up in Edinburgh, I wasn't expecting anything else.

Never managed to catch up with the Yutong, so quite looking forward to their arrival up here.

(05 Feb 2020, 12:32 am)streetdeckfan wrote The issue you mentioned about the tables not having stop buttons is the same issue with the E400s, if you're sitting at a table, you have to lean over and push the stop button in front of someone else, which can be quite awkward. Also, I've been on an E400 a few times where the stop buttons on the seats haven't worked at all, so it was only sheer luck that someone downstairs was getting off at my stop, as I didn't have time to walk to the front of the bus to push the only proper stop button (which is a chore in and of itself with the low height upstairs!)

It's strange. Given where the bell is placed on the side wall, I don't think I'd be best pleased with someone reaching over in that area.

I'm yet to be convinced of the latest fad of having no handrails, but equally operators need to put some thought into where the stop buttons should be placed. The rear of the seats, like the Enviros that GNE have recently purchased, is ideal.

(05 Feb 2020, 8:49 am)Jimmi wrote Harrogate Bus Station is rather irritating for someone like myself as I'm a bit impatient and there's not much space to navigate your way through it, always either get stuck behind someone walking really slowly and can't get past them or people stand in a position that makes it so you can't get past them.

Yes, I'd agree with that! It's got a similar issue to the re-development of Durham though, and that the footprint doesn't give them a lot to play with...
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(05 Feb 2020, 11:35 pm)Adrian wrote The quality difference between these and the Streetair EVs that Lothian have is streets apart. The Volvo is just a far superior product, but having used the hybrids up in Edinburgh, I wasn't expecting anything else.

Never managed to catch up with the Yutong, so quite looking forward to their arrival up here.


It's strange. Given where the bell is placed on the side wall, I don't think I'd be best pleased with someone reaching over in that area.

I'm yet to be convinced of the latest fad of having no handrails, but equally operators need to put some thought into where the stop buttons should be placed. The rear of the seats, like the Enviros that GNE have recently purchased, is ideal.

I'm looking forward to the Yutongs, I'm just hoping the quality has improved since the demo, the same way GNE's E400s are miles better than any others I've tried.

I personally think proper handrails should be required. I'm pretty sure I could break one of the SmartSeats if I tried, I'm tempted to try but I don't want to get in trouble!
I've mentioned in the past the incident I had where the driver forgot to stop until last minute and literally did an emergency stop as I was standing up. If it hadn't been for the handrails at the top of the stairs I would have been through the windscreen, grabbing one of those tiny handles on the seats would have been impossible
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(06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm)Jimmi wrote Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years

It's obviously Network Rail's fault. The marking on the bridge weren't clear enough!
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(06 Feb 2020, 9:22 pm)Jimmi wrote Bus involved was Reliance Motor Services V223LGC

That Bridge has claimed a few deckers roofs over the years

Amazing when you think how low the bridge is and how well known it is!
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
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(21 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm)citaro5284 wrote I see Alex Hornby has tweeted that 19 ADL MMC400's are on order for CityZap and Witchway - Is this the first ADL double decks for Transdev for a while?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...61219?s=20
Excluding the ex London E400s that joined the fleet last year, yes they will be.