10017 on the 685, 9.45 from Eldon Square

(24 Jun 2019, 8:34 am)RBZ 5459 wrote

Pesky trees and windows again.

Re 11157 and having tree problems.  Anywhere in particular on the route?  And if again how frequent is this?  Much damage - cost must be adding up up!

(25 Sep 2019, 8:53 pm)Brampton Trev wrote

Re 11157 and having tree problems.  Anywhere in particular on the route?  And if again how frequent is this?  Much damage - cost must be adding up up!

Was around Bardon Mill, but NCC have been out to lob a few trees so its okay now. 11157 was eating through three front upper windows a week at worst...! Oddly unique to the MMCs.... older E400 and Tridents had no problems.

(26 Sep 2019, 8:45 am)RBZ 5459 wrote

Was around Bardon Mill, but NCC have been out to lob a few trees so its okay now. 11157 was eating through three front upper windows a week at worst...! Oddly unique to the MMCs.... older E400 and Tridents had no problems.

Re trees.

So I am guessing on this bit of road (the old A69) NCC is responsible for the trees so Stagecoach speak to NCC who prune?  Any financial compensation from NCC?

At The Sands Brampton, the few big trees on the A6071 at the bus stops are Brampton Parish Council responsibility.  These trees are mostly pruned by passing HGVs except the two at the turn in and out for the Carlisle bound bus stop layby and Brampton Parish Council pruned these a few years ago.

I recall seeing a flickr photo of a Trident part open top being repainted in Carlisle depot at the start of this year as it had been out with contractors on a tree pruning run (Keswick-Seatoller?) - so does that mean at times Stagecoach go out and prune trees at Stagecoach cost?

Lake District winter timetables is now online:

https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.ama...ochure.pdf

11158 now has an overall pink wrap for breast cancer and seen at ASDA Toryglen, Glasgow on 10 Oct 2019 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/blaircamer...Eb-2gRyxvj

(28 Oct 2019, 10:17 am)Brampton Trev wrote 11158 now has an overall pink wrap for breast cancer and seen at ASDA Toryglen, Glasgow on 10 Oct 2019 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/blaircamer...Eb-2gRyxvj

It will final be coming home to C&NL in the coming weeks once it has finished it's campaign. It will be first loaned to Lancaster  before heading to Carlisle to be vinyled up for the 685.

11158 (YX68UXJ) Carlisle Depot by Carlisle Bus Group, on Flickr


Alexander-Dennis/Enviro400 11158 finally arrived at Carlisle on Monday 13th January following an extended period on loan to Stagecoach Group for IT testing and then went on loan to Morecambe depot for a few weeks.

It is seen here freshly branded for CROSS PENNINE 685 in the paint shop at Carlisle depot. It was due to enter service on January 15th on the 685 but instead will return to Stagecoach Group at Stockport for further testing.

This was posted on Facebook today


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(15 Jan 2020, 8:50 pm)TEN 6083 wrote 11158 (YX68UXJ) Carlisle Depot by Carlisle Bus Group, on Flickr


Alexander-Dennis/Enviro400 11158 finally arrived at Carlisle on Monday 13th January following an extended period on loan to Stagecoach Group for IT testing and then went on loan to Morecambe depot for a few weeks.

It is seen here freshly branded for CROSS PENNINE 685 in the paint shop at Carlisle depot. It was due to enter service on January 15th on the 685 but instead will return to Stagecoach Group at Stockport for further testing.

This was posted on Facebook today


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Should only be for a couple of weeks....

24122 on the 13.45 685 from Eldon Square

On Sunday, Lillyhall sent single deckers out on the 301 instead of double deckers - high winds and I also think same for X4/X5. Same happened a week or two ago on a very windy day.
Also on Sunday, Willowholme depot was emptied due to flood warning and buses parked up in Lowther Street.

Registration changes in the open-top fleet are as follows:
17489 has become VLT217 (ex LX51FMJ)
17490 has become TSV720 (ex LX51FMK)
17495 has become WIJ1545 (ex LX51FMU)
17692 has become WLT824 (ex X702JVV)

27750 (PX11 DNO) is the first vehicle to be repainted into the new local livery for Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...14130@N06/

As reported by Steven Knight Media, due for delivery here are:

Mercedes-Benz EVM Cityline 44038-47 - of which 44038 is reported as RX20PZU
Mercedes-Benz EVM Trend 44048-53

Due for a new contract in West Cumbria.

Also reported as due to cascade is a further Sprinter - Stagecoach East’s 44009.

11158 getting picked up today from Stockport.

11158 now in service on the 685, alongside 11157.

(05 Mar 2020, 9:59 am)RBZ 5459 wrote 11158 now in service on the 685, alongside 11157.

Stagecoach Cross Pennine 11158 / YX68 UXJ by kieron mathews, on Flickr


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Monday afternoon - no Carlisle double deckers out and about - so passed by the depot around 1500 and a full line inside the west side of the depot - so no doubt all the double deckers are now out of service for a while.
Lillyhall double deckers were out on the 300 Whitehaven<>Carlisle hourly service.

(02 Mar 2020, 2:29 am)Kuyoyo wrote As reported by Steven Knight Media, due for delivery here are:

Mercedes-Benz EVM Cityline 44038-47 - of which 44038 is reported as RX20PZU
Mercedes-Benz EVM Trend 44048-53

Due for a new contract in West Cumbria.

Also reported as due to cascade is a further Sprinter - Stagecoach East’s 44009.

As reported by Steven Knight Media, the new Sprinters are for the Sellafield Contract and are as followed:
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/EVM Cityline (like 44031-7 at Stockton)
44038 RX20 PZU
44039 WX20 SWK
44040 WX20 SWN
44041 WX20 SWJ
44042 WX20 SVW
44043 WX20 SVY
44044 WX20 SWF
44045 WX20 SVZ
44046 WX20 SWO
44047 awaiting confirmation
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/EVM Trend
44048 WX20 SVU
44049 WX20 SVV
44050 WX20 SVS
44051 WX20 SVT
44052 WX20 SWU
44053 WX20 SWV

Pending full delivery, 7 Mercedes-Benz 513CDI/Mellor are on-loan and they are:
80044 DG63 MYH
80045 DG63 MXF
80046 DG63 NCD
80047 DG63 NEU
80048 DG63 MXH
80049 DG63 LCW
80050 DG63 LCV

As also reported, E200MMCs 26001-5 are due for East Scotland (replaced there by 5 new examples) as are Versas 25265-7. Deckers due for the contract include Enviro400Hs 12206-13 from Manchester's Stockport depot plus 3 further unidentified deckers.

Scania/Enviro 400 15699 is now in Lakes Connection base livery.

Surprised they're still doing repaints.

(30 Mar 2020, 12:02 pm)Kuyoyo wrote As reported by Steven Knight Media, the new Sprinters are for the Sellafield Contract and are as followed:
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/EVM Cityline (like 44031-7 at Stockton)
44038 RX20 PZU
44039 WX20 SWK
44040 WX20 SWN
44041 WX20 SWJ
44042 WX20 SVW
44043 WX20 SVY
44044 WX20 SWF
44045 WX20 SVZ
44046 WX20 SWO
44047 awaiting confirmation
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/EVM Trend
44048 WX20 SVU
44049 WX20 SVV
44050 WX20 SVS
44051 WX20 SVT
44052 WX20 SWU
44053 WX20 SWV

Pending full delivery, 7 Mercedes-Benz 513CDI/Mellor are on-loan and they are:
80044 DG63 MYH
80045 DG63 MXF
80046 DG63 NCD
80047 DG63 NEU
80048 DG63 MXH
80049 DG63 LCW
80050 DG63 LCV

As also reported, E200MMCs 26001-5 are due for East Scotland (replaced there by 5 new examples) as are Versas 25265-7. Deckers due for the contract include Enviro400Hs 12206-13 from Manchester's Stockport depot plus 3 further unidentified deckers.

Steven Knight Media have now reported the loan Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/Mellors 80044-50 have been returned to the lessor unused.

(09 Apr 2020, 8:49 am)Michael wrote Scania/Enviro 400 15699 is now in Lakes Connection base livery.

Surprised they're still doing repaints.

Also due to receive Lakes Connection livery are recently returned Solo SRs 48001/2 - they will be used on the 77/77A replacing 47721/2.

4 E200s are due to arrive from Manchester - 36416/7/9/22. They will be going straight into store.
All information from Steven Knight Media

(24 Apr 2020, 2:11 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Steven Knight Media have now reported the loan Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/Mellors 80044-50 have been returned to the lessor unused.


Also due to receive Lakes Connection livery are recently returned Solo SRs 48001/2 - they will be used on the 77/77A replacing 47721/2.

4 E200s are due to arrive from Manchester - 36416/7/9/22. They will be going straight into store.
All information from Steven Knight Media

Thanks for the update!


The Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/Mellors were for contracts weren't they?, i assume they haven't gone ahead due to the current situation?

When the E200's come out of storage, which services will go on?, a Lakes service?

(24 Apr 2020, 2:21 pm)Michael wrote Thanks for the update!


The Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/Mellors were for contracts weren't they?, i assume they haven't gone ahead due to the current situation?

When the E200's come out of storage, which services will go on?, a Lakes service?

Sellafield Ltd contract has been delayed due to the current pandemic, the loaned Mellors were to cover gaps where intended contract vehicles had not arrived yet, but ultimately are not needed. There are a number of new Sprinters to land, to go alongside 12206-12213 and 26001-26005, plus others tbc.

The E200s will be heading into Kendal, subject to change over the next few months but will be stored at Lillyhall for now.

(25 Apr 2020, 4:12 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Sellafield Ltd contract has been delayed due to the current pandemic, the loaned Mellors were to cover gaps where intended contract vehicles had not arrived yet, but ultimately are not needed. There are a number of new Sprinters to land, to go alongside 12206-12213 and 26001-26005, plus others tbc.

The E200s will be heading into Kendal, subject to change over the next few months but will be stored at Lillyhall for now.

Thanks for the extra information.

48002 (YJ15ANF) Carlisle Depot by Carlisle Bus Group, on Flickr


47009 (KX51CSZ) Carlisle Depot by Carlisle Bus Group, on Flickr


47058 (PX04DME) Carlisle Depot by Carlisle Bus Group, on Flickr

Stagecoach Cumbria have been repainting there Solos over in Carlisle.


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10015 on 685

Anyone know if Stagecoach Cumbria still have a travel shop in Carlisle bus station (or anywhere else) and if so when it's open etc?

(10 Mar 2023, 5:27 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Anyone know if Stagecoach Cumbria still have a travel shop in Carlisle bus station (or anywhere else) and if so when it's open etc?

At Carlisle bus station, there is a small office on the island with the bus stands - the office has a small entrance area, say 2m X 3m at most, open to the public which house timetable racks and may be 3 seats - opening hours are ??.  Has usually been open when passing during what you might call office hours, certainly 11.00-16.00 when I have been there Monday to Friday.

Not a travel shop.

Penrith and Workington= no.

Stagecoach Cumbria fleet movements

Carlisle have exchanged MAN E300 24125 for Morecambe's Euro6 E300 27227 to increase the number of full-size Euro6 single deckers at the depot to cover 685 workings.
Lillyhall have gained 3 E200s of different ages - ex-Yorkshire E200 36182/3 landed earlier in the month for use on the Sellafield contracts. Meanwhile, the latest transfer in is ex-Manchester E200MMC 26141 .
Due soon is ex-Stagecoach East E400 19574 (AE10 BWG) - recently damaged under a bridge in Luton. It will be converted to open top to join 19161 on the 78 as a replacement for one of the remaining ALX400s.

Whilst Arriva were operating on the 685, the usual Carlisle vehicles were 11567 and 11568, the 2 E400MMCs.

Since the 685 has gone all Stagecoach, it as been quite common for one of these E400MMCs not to appear on the 685 but be used for various other services which typically includes a morning and afternoon schools run. It would appear that Carlisle have school runs requiring x double deckers and the decker allocation is x+1, so only 1 spare, hence an E400MMC gets reallocated - it will also cut down the daily mileage.  Note one of the 'school runs' is the 685 that goes through Hexham at schools in time and the same bus passes through Hexham at schools out time.

I had noticed that an E200 would now appear for the whole day on the 685.  But then some of the Carlisle Citi routes would be operated by E300s.

Also note that Newcastle now has a LEZ zone so any 685 bus going in to Newcastle bus station, needs to be LEZ compliant, e.g. Euro 6.