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Rapidsnap   17 Jun 2020, 6:19 pm
#31
So all possibility it could have returned from its little holiday down Scarborough.

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Michael   17 Jun 2020, 6:21 pm
#32
(17 Jun 2020, 6:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote It looks too close to 'Angel Green' for them to use it on another route.
My guess is another promotional bus

Seems random they would put a promotional brand in middle of the FAB 56 brand as both 6087/6088 are FAB 56

I think this might be the new livery colour for the 56 route - if its not 6050 - which will also be due a repaint.

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 6:25 pm
#33
(17 Jun 2020, 6:21 pm)Michael wrote Seems random they would put a promotional brand in middle of the FAB 56 brand as both 6087/6088 are FAB 56

I think this might be the new livery colour for the 56 route - if its not 6050 - which will also be due a repaint.

True, the sooner the get rid of the 'Fab fifty six' the better!

(17 Jun 2020, 6:19 pm)Rapidsnap wrote So all possibility it could have returned from its little holiday down Scarborough.

Good point! Might have to look a bit closer see if there's any minor differences between the B9 and B5s (would it still be a B5LH with the Hybrid removed?)

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Michael   17 Jun 2020, 6:28 pm
#34
(17 Jun 2020, 6:25 pm)streetdeckfan wrote True, the sooner the get rid of the 'Fab fifty six' the better!

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Oh yes, the colour is horrendous... sure its name was something like:

NewcastleSunderland Citylinks... which is meh, unless that's changed.... which i hope so.

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 6:53 pm
#35
(17 Jun 2020, 6:28 pm)Michael wrote Oh yes, the colour is horrendous... sure its name was something like:

NewcastleSunderland Citylinks... which is meh, unless that's changed.... which i hope so.

I can't even think of a good brand for it!

I suppose they could go with something that plays off the rivalry between the two, but honestly I think GNE are past that type of branding at this point.
I suspect we'll see something along the lines of Cobalt and Coast in terms of branding, simple, if a bit boring.

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Michael   17 Jun 2020, 7:19 pm
#36
(17 Jun 2020, 6:53 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I can't even think of a good brand for it!

I suppose they could go with something that plays off the rivalry between the two, but honestly I think GNE are past that type of branding at this point.
I suspect we'll see something along the lines of Cobalt and Coast in terms of branding, simple, if a bit boring.

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Citylink 56.

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 7:22 pm
#37
(17 Jun 2020, 7:19 pm)Michael wrote Citylink 56.
Issue is they've diluted the brand by using it on services that don't connect cities!
To me, citylink only makes sense as a brand if it links cities

And I think they'd rather have a dedicated brand for a route like the 56

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Michael   17 Jun 2020, 7:33 pm
#38
(17 Jun 2020, 7:22 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Issue is they've diluted the brand by using it on services that don't connect cities!
To me, citylink only makes sense as a brand if it links cities

And I think they'd rather have a dedicated brand for a route like the 56

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That's true, hopefully its something decent.

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 7:38 pm
#39
(17 Jun 2020, 7:33 pm)Michael wrote That's true, hopefully its something decent.
Xlines is great, C&C is bland, Little Coasters and Green Arrow are alright. So really it's a toss up whether it's going to be good or not!
Big O   17 Jun 2020, 7:47 pm
#40
Maybe TyneWear Link? Sorry for the poor effort lol.
streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 7:50 pm
#41
(17 Jun 2020, 7:47 pm)Big O wrote Maybe TyneWear Link? Sorry for the poor effort lol.

I had that exact same thought. There's not really much you can do though without it sounding as tacky as Fab 56!
Michael   17 Jun 2020, 8:00 pm
#42
(17 Jun 2020, 7:47 pm)Big O wrote Maybe TyneWear Link? Sorry for the poor effort lol.

Sounds good, but i would have it like "Tyne & Wear Links".

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 8:21 pm
#43
OK, done a bit more research, I don't think it can be one of the 56 B9s. If we look at the headlights, the 56s have some of the lights blanked out, but the one in for repaint clearly has lights there. 

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On further inspection, it seems that there seems be similar damage on both the 'mystery' bus and 6050 that I couldn't see on any other possible vehicles. At least from photographs on Flickr! Although that could just be the angle of the cameras!

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Michael   17 Jun 2020, 8:27 pm
#44
(17 Jun 2020, 8:21 pm)streetdeckfan wrote OK, done a bit more research, I don't think it can be one of the 56 B9s. If we look at the headlights, the 56s have some of the lights blanked out, but the one in for repaint clearly has lights there. 

[Image: attachment.php?aid=9417][Image: attachment.php?aid=9418]

On further inspection, it seems that there seems be similar damage on both the 'mystery' bus and 6050 that I couldn't see on any other possible vehicles. At least from photographs on Flickr! Although that could just be the angle of the cameras!

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I'm not shocked that you've done reasearch on what bus it could be ??

Alex Davies had a good suggestion on Dan's twitter post


"Silver and green, interesting combination"

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Just wait ‘til you see the cab door - teamwork makes the dream work!?

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JP6004   17 Jun 2020, 8:30 pm
#45
(17 Jun 2020, 8:27 pm)Michael wrote I'm not shocked that you've done reasearch on what bus it could be ??

Alex Davies had a good suggestion on Dan's twitter post


"Silver and green, interesting combination"

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Also from Dan:


Just wait ‘til you see the cab door - teamwork makes the dream work!?

Could be one of the red arrows or the ex london B9s. Both have additional lights in the cluster. I'd say one of the ex london B9s since Streetdecks arriving before E400
streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 8:32 pm
#46
(17 Jun 2020, 8:27 pm)Michael wrote I'm not shocked that you've done reasearch on what bus it could be ??

Alex Davies had a good suggestion on Dan's twitter post


"Silver and green, interesting combination"

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Also from Dan:


Just wait ‘til you see the cab door - teamwork makes the dream work!?

I've far too much time on my hands these days!

Looks like the grey on the front is just the primer though judging by one of MG's comments.

Although that colour combination would be nice, I doubt it'd be the case as it's been confirmed that future liveries will follow the same design as the corporate one, and the colour change would be too close to the front of the vehicle.
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Michael   17 Jun 2020, 8:33 pm
#47
(17 Jun 2020, 8:30 pm)JP6004 wrote Could be one of the red arrows or the ex london B9s. Both have additional lights in the cluster. I'd say one of the ex london B9s since Streetdecks arriving before E400

Aye it could be, as they were meant to go on the Loop.

I think its either the 56 or X1.

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 8:37 pm
#48
(17 Jun 2020, 8:30 pm)JP6004 wrote Could be one of the red arrows or the ex london B9s. Both have additional lights in the cluster. I'd say one of the ex london B9s since Streetdecks arriving before E400

According to Bus Times, there aren't any that are off the road today, plus it looks like they have the emergency buttons behind a flap
Michael   17 Jun 2020, 8:46 pm
#49
(17 Jun 2020, 8:32 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I've far too much time on my hands these days!

Looks like the grey on the front is just the primer though judging by one of MG's comments.

Although that colour combination would be nice, I doubt it'd be the case as it's been confirmed that future liveries will follow the same design as the corporate one, and the colour change would be too close to the front of the vehicle.


If the grey is an undercoat, the light green must be the livery.

I'm still going for one of the B9's on the Red Arrow or Fab 56

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 8:52 pm
#50
(17 Jun 2020, 8:46 pm)Michael wrote If the grey is an undercoat, the light green must be the livery.

I'm still going for one of the B9's on the Red Arrow or Fab 56

Assuming Bus Times is correct, the only 2 vehicles it could be are 6050 or 6064. 56 B9s are ruled out unless they add in the extra light (which is possible, but doubtful).

I doubt it's 6064 as they'd still need to run it alongside the other Coasters so it makes sense to keep it as it is, plus it's still a fairly recent paintjob.

My money would be on 6050 as they're due to be replaced fairly soon.

The big question is what can they do with a base green livery on a route it might move to?
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Storx   17 Jun 2020, 8:59 pm
#51
Bit off topic but seen mentions of the rebranding of the 56. Am I the only one who hates the brands, there's some where are really crap and ones which don't make sense currently.

Black Cats and Fab 56 just both look rubbish.
Cobalt and Coast, imagine getting a bus branded that which doesn't go to Cobalt or the Coast...?
Little Coaster, most irrelvant bus route for the 19 and 42 considering they're the only bus in most the places they serve that doesn't go to the coast - confusing...
Indigo exists in two different places (which defeats the point of a brand imo - some may disagree).

Back on topic, the ex London deckers have curved windows like Arriva so can't be one of them whereas it's clearly a square window - there's words for them but I've forgot them.
cainebj   17 Jun 2020, 9:00 pm
#52
Throwing a random thought out there, if it is a Red Arrows B9 then could it be a new livery for 6 to match in with the green X-Lines for other services to Stanley? (And with the green Coast & Country Streetlites). On the thinking that it's only been publicly said that they'll transfer to a service in Newcastle.
Michael   17 Jun 2020, 9:07 pm
#53
(17 Jun 2020, 8:52 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Assuming Bus Times is correct, the only 2 vehicles it could be are 6050 or 6064. 56 B9s are ruled out unless they add in the extra light (which is possible, but doubtful).

I doubt it's 6064 as they'd still need to run it alongside the other Coasters so it makes sense to keep it as it is, plus it's still a fairly recent paintjob.

My money would be on 6050 as they're due to be replaced fairly soon.

The big question is what can they do with a base green livery on a route it might move to?

The Red Arrow buses have to go on a Newcastle service due to the eco zone, as they got the eurp 6 upgrade, so it'll be a Newcastle based service.

Other buses are going for a refurb soon, Martjin confirmed that in one of his live video's, although he didn't say what,althought it was said a while back, it was some of the Versa's.

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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 9:11 pm
#54
(17 Jun 2020, 8:59 pm)Storx wrote Bit off topic but seen mentions of the rebranding of the 56. Am I the only one who hates the brands, there's some where are really crap and ones which don't make sense currently.

Black Cats and Fab 56 just both look rubbish.
Cobalt and Coast, imagine getting a bus branded that which doesn't go to Cobalt or the Coast...?
Little Coaster, most irrelvant bus route for the 19 and 42 considering they're the only bus in most the places they serve that doesn't go to the coast - confusing...
Indigo exists in two different places (which defeats the point of a brand imo - some may disagree).

Back on topic, the ex London deckers have curved windows like Arriva so can't be one of them whereas it's clearly a square window - there's words for them but I've forgot them.

I agree with you there about some of the routes being crap. I've always hated the Red Kite brand so I'm glad that's going away (It's those eyes!)
I genuinely like the Little Coasters branding, it looks pretty good on the solos. It'd be nice if it saw more use.

GNE's use bonded windows whereas the ex london ones are gasket windows (I think that's the correct terminology)

(17 Jun 2020, 9:00 pm)cainebj wrote Throwing a random thought out there, if it is a Red Arrows B9 then could it be a new livery for 6 to match in with the green X-Lines for other services to Stanley? (And with the green Coast & Country Streetlites). On the thinking that it's only been publicly said that they'll transfer to a service in Newcastle.

That would work... although does the 6 really need an upgrade to deckers, other than peak times?
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Big O   17 Jun 2020, 9:48 pm
#55
(17 Jun 2020, 8:59 pm)Storx wrote Bit off topic but seen mentions of the rebranding of the 56. Am I the only one who hates the brands, there's some where are really crap and ones which don't make sense currently.

Black Cats and Fab 56 just both look rubbish.
Cobalt and Coast, imagine getting a bus branded that which doesn't go to Cobalt or the Coast...?
Little Coaster, most irrelvant bus route for the 19 and 42 considering they're the only bus in most the places they serve that doesn't go to the coast - confusing...
Indigo exists in two different places (which defeats the point of a brand imo - some may disagree).

Back on topic, the ex London deckers have curved windows like Arriva so can't be one of them whereas it's clearly a square window - there's words for them but I've forgot them.

The ex London Deckers have gasket glazing and the native GNE stock have bonded glazing Wink
streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 9:57 pm
#56
(17 Jun 2020, 9:48 pm)Big O wrote The ex London Deckers have gasket glazing and the native GNE stock have bonded glazing Wink

And their new ADL vehicles seem to use a bit of chewing gum in each corner going off how much they rattle and move about!
Adtrainsam   17 Jun 2020, 10:00 pm
#57
(17 Jun 2020, 8:59 pm)Storx wrote Bit off topic but seen mentions of the rebranding of the 56. Am I the only one who hates the brands, there's some where are really crap and ones which don't make sense currently.

Black Cats and Fab 56 just both look rubbish.
Cobalt and Coast, imagine getting a bus branded that which doesn't go to Cobalt or the Coast...?
Little Coaster, most irrelvant bus route for the 19 and 42 considering they're the only bus in most the places they serve that doesn't go to the coast - confusing...
Indigo exists in two different places (which defeats the point of a brand imo - some may disagree).

Back on topic, the ex London deckers have curved windows like Arriva so can't be one of them whereas it's clearly a square window - there's words for them but I've forgot them.
I think route branding has gotten a lot better from about 10 year ago. Although there are still some cringey brands such as Connections4 and the Fab56, it’s far better from the days of Magic Roundabout, Pronto and Fast Cats which were utter rubbish (although I liked the light blue on the Magic Roundabout!).

Once most routes are branded in the ‘house style’ in about 6/ 7 years, everything will be a lot smarter.

Maybe the Cobalt and Coast brand references the Coast Road, which the 309, 310 and 311 all travel on...
BeachBoy99   17 Jun 2020, 10:28 pm
#58
(17 Jun 2020, 8:59 pm)Storx wrote Bit off topic but seen mentions of the rebranding of the 56. Am I the only one who hates the brands, there's some where are really crap and ones which don't make sense currently.

Black Cats and Fab 56 just both look rubbish.
Cobalt and Coast, imagine getting a bus branded that which doesn't go to Cobalt or the Coast...?
Little Coaster, most irrelvant bus route for the 19 and 42 considering they're the only bus in most the places they serve that doesn't go to the coast - confusing...
Indigo exists in two different places (which defeats the point of a brand imo - some may disagree).

Back on topic, the ex London deckers have curved windows like Arriva so can't be one of them whereas it's clearly a square window - there's words for them but I've forgot them.

I agree with you on some of the newer brands however some of the older brands, in my opinion, have been amazing:

"Cobalt & Coast" is plain and kind of boring; hate the landmark illustrations in particular.
"Little Coasters" is, again, boring.
"X-lines" is alright, but some of the brands it's replaced/replacing were better – "The Castles Express" and "Red Arrows" being prominent examples.
New "Green Arrow" livery is way better than the old version and fits in with the eco-friendly theme which is great for communicating that message to environment enthusiasts.

"Black Cats" is phenomenal and so detailed. It's probably my favourite StreetLite livery because of the way it wraps around the shape of the vehicles, not to mention how perfect it is for the areas it serves given its S.A.F.C colour scheme.
"indiGo" I've always took a liking to, even more so since the 'simplified' version was established. I don't think having it in two different locations defeats the point of the brand, as the idea of it is to outline the minibus services it provides in smaller/local communities, i.e. Concord, Washington etc.; Peterlee, Seaham, Dalton Park etc."
"Prince Bishops" is one I hope they don't get rid of because it's now one of the oldest brands and has a significant meaning to Durham.
Loved "The 9". Gutted it's been cut back to between Sunderland and Hebburn.
Miss "Wear Xpress" a lot, as that was by far my favourite brand.
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streetdeckfan   17 Jun 2020, 10:48 pm
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(17 Jun 2020, 10:28 pm)BeachBoy99 wrote I agree with you on some of the newer brands however some of the older brands, in my opinion, have been amazing:

"Cobalt & Coast" is plain and kind of boring; hate the landmark illustrations in particular.
"Little Coasters" is, again, boring.
"X-lines" is alright, but some of the brands it's replaced/replacing were better – "The Castles Express" and "Red Arrows" being prominent examples.
New "Green Arrow" livery is way better than the old version and fits in with the eco-friendly theme which is great for communicating that message to environment enthusiasts.

"Black Cats" is phenomenal and so detailed. It's probably my favourite StreetLite livery because of the way it wraps around the shape of the vehicles, not to mention how perfect it is for the areas it serves given its S.A.F.C colour scheme.
"indiGo" I've always took a liking to, even more so since the 'simplified' version was established. I don't think having it in two different locations defeats the point of the brand, as the idea of it is to outline the minibus services it provides in smaller/local communities, i.e. Concord, Washington etc.; Peterlee, Seaham, Dalton Park etc."
"Prince Bishops" is one I hope they don't get rid of because it's now one of the oldest brands and has a significant meaning to Durham.
Loved "The 9". Gutted it's been cut back to between Sunderland and Hebburn.
Miss "Wear Xpress" a lot, as that was by far my favourite brand.

Xlines is a good brand, it's just a shame they killed off The Castles Express (which is my favourite of all the brands)
Prince Bishops is a brand that could easily be updated to fit the new design (Might do a quick mock-up in Illustrator since I've nowt better to do!)

I've never particularly liked the 'Arrows' brands, they always seemed a bit half-arsed to me. Just like The 49 and The 9 (although with The 9 they did slightly more than stick a big number on the side).
I disagree about Little Coasters being boring, I think it's just right. Any more and it would have just turned tacky.
Michael   17 Jun 2020, 11:18 pm
#60
Someone asked Dan when will we see it and he replyed
"next week"

https://twitter.com/phil12_/status/12733...45349?s=19

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