I don't see a problem. It's making a letter smaller makes no difference. Ita not gonna effect the bus route at all. Its just they have short down the letter now

(04 Mar 2021, 8:36 pm)Adrian wrote Debate will always be encouraged, but if you cannot make your points without getting personal, then you really need to reconsider what you're about to post. 

Becoming personal is unnecessary and from what I've seen so far, its largely without foundation.

To be fair, that was me toning it down, it was a lot worse beforehand! 

I think my point still stands even without it though

(05 Mar 2021, 5:38 am)MichealAaron wrote I don't see a problem. It's making a letter smaller makes no difference. Ita not gonna effect the bus route at all. Its just they have short down the letter now

It does make a difference if it's more difficult for people to see the route number and where it's going. Drivers don't like it for the reasons CookieMonster mentioned earlier. There is very little benefit of having route numbers on the offside. Best practice is for it to be on the near side where people can see it clearly, especially if they're waiting on a busy road with lots of buses.

It's easier to miss that smaller suffix letter, as it blends in with the destination (they're roughly the same size). It could easily mean that someone waiting in Newcastle thinks they're getting on the 28 to go down Old Durham Road, but end up on the 28A! Now, that is going to be annoying for the passenger, they're probably won't want to use the bus again after having to catch 2/3 different buses because the letter was too small.

I get that but there's no need for a massage compliment about it. I think bus companies like Go North East have bigger things to sort out then just these little letters. It's like the Single Destination board a while ago. So much complaining

(05 Mar 2021, 9:41 am)MichealAaron wrote I get that but there's no need for a massage compliment about it. I think bus companies like Go North East have bigger things to sort out then just these little letters. It's like the Single Destination board a while ago. So much complaining

Agreed that they do have much bigger things to sort out and improve. But why mess around with it in the first place?

It's like what they did with the single destination blind. Just trying out new things. Seeing how it works for the public. We as bus spotters care about the buses. The public don't.. just as long as that bus gets them home. To us it's a debate to them. It means nothing

(05 Mar 2021, 10:22 am)MichealAaron wrote It's like what they did with the single destination blind. Just trying out new things. Seeing how it works for the public. We as bus spotters care about the buses. The public don't.. just as long as that bus gets them home. To us it's a debate to them. It means nothing

It might not get them home if the blind isnt very clear though! 
That hidden/merged suffix can potentially take someone in the totally wrong direction.

Good to see that the newest Streetdecks have been amended to show the single display format for routes that haven't had the two screen format programmed yet. Wasn't a good look having the number in one screen and the destination below or, in some cases, the destination showing on both screens.

To smudge the praise with bit of negativity, one could suggest it would have been better to finish programming these instead of mucking around with the others.

Christ you lot would have had a nervous breakdown in the 80s and 90s when all blinds were offside and mixed with capitals and lower case

(05 Mar 2021, 7:16 pm)Ambassador wrote Christ you lot would have had a nervous breakdown in the 80s and 90s when all blinds were offside and mixed with capitals and lower case

Think that's the point a lot of folk are trying to make though. Why are a company which are making forward thinking decisions elsewhere looking to the past on things like this (especially when they had/have a perfectly good system beforehand)?

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Wonder why X66 hasn’t had its number moved to the drivers side. It’s an all white display.

(05 Mar 2021, 9:39 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Wonder why X66 hasn’t had its number moved to the drivers side. It’s an all white display.

Likely because they don't have WiFi enabled controllers so someone would need to physically get on the bus to update the file rather than it being done remotely.

(05 Mar 2021, 10:21 pm)S813 FVK wrote Likely because they don't have WiFi enabled controllers so someone would need to physically get on the bus to update the file rather than it being done remotely.

Ah good point.

(05 Mar 2021, 9:29 pm)MurdnunoC wrote nkjc knxc k nckn k`jlz ljs mbAX Jkj/lsa agjhdkbjvnwd;ja svdLKL/sa.

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Anyone know why the 39A doesn’t ever use the smaller A

(12 Apr 2021, 10:47 pm)Acky81 wrote Anyone know why the 39A doesn’t ever use the smaller A

Saw a 28a the other day. Lined up on the kerbside as opposed to the other version which appears on some vehicles, but it very difficult to determine whether it was a 28 or not.
Pity those who struggle with their eyesight and needing a key, specific part of either route - such as Saltwell Crem or the QE.

Couldn't the Undertaker take them from the Hospital to the Crem if needed.

(13 Apr 2021, 10:59 am)Rapidsnap wrote Couldn't the Undertaker take them from the Hospital to the Crem if needed.

Suppose they could, if they were dead.
Assuming they're in Birtley and off to an appointment or a funeral, the undertaker would more than likely pass them in the direction of GNE.

Lots of undertakers are closing their doors. It's a dying business.

Nice font.
https://flic.kr/p/2kTxJBq

As much as I like the double height displays, this seems like a lot of info to read to get to the destination, no?

https://flic.kr/p/2kZ2J9b

See, I find that display so much better than the single height ones, it shows the actual destination as well as the legal destination (due to it being registered as 2 separate routes).
The most important destination, Middlesbrough, is the biggest, rather than Dalton Park which shows on the single height displays.

(18 May 2021, 9:41 am)streetdeckfan wrote See, I find that display so much better than the single height ones, it shows the actual destination as well as the legal destination (due to it being registered as 2 separate routes).
The most important destination, Middlesbrough, is the biggest, rather than Dalton Park which shows on the single height displays.

No I agree and also like that Middlesbrough is bigger than Dalton Park for once as Middlesbrough is the end of the route after all, it’s just with the via points in too it’s quite a lot.

(18 May 2021, 10:33 am)ne14ne1 wrote No I agree and also like that Middlesbrough is bigger than Dalton Park for once as Middlesbrough is the end of the route after all, it’s just with the via points in too it’s quite a lot.

I don't know about anyone else, but I never look at the via points on a display!
In fact, I actually preferred it when they went through the phase of not having them at all because the destination was bigger!

(18 May 2021, 10:41 am)streetdeckfan wrote I don't know about anyone else, but I never look at the via points on a display!
In fact, I actually preferred it when they went through the phase of not having them at all because the destination was bigger!

Me too(!), I loved the destination-only displays but obviously others disagreed so they put via points back on. At least they don’t scroll like before.

If only GNE could just use clearer more modern text as standard like SNE and ANE both now do I’d be happy. 

(18 May 2021, 2:13 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Me too(!), I loved the destination-only displays but obviously others disagreed so they put via points back on. At least they don’t scroll like before.

If only GNE could just use clearer more modern text as standard like SNE and ANE both now do I’d be happy. 

Oh hell no, Arriva's font is horrible! It's too round for my liking!
To me, from a distance pretty much every letter looks like an 'o', especially the 'a' and the 'e', and to a lesser extent the 'p'

(18 May 2021, 2:13 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Me too(!), I loved the destination-only displays but obviously others disagreed so they put via points back on. At least they don’t scroll like before.

If only GNE could just use clearer more modern text as standard like SNE and ANE both now do I’d be happy. 

I’m amazed you like their fonts - they don’t use descenders (something I’m sure you’ve said you prefer in the past?!)

Go North East’s font does.


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(18 May 2021, 3:06 pm)Dan wrote I’m amazed you like their fonts - they don’t use descenders (something I’m sure you’ve said you prefer in the past?!)

Go North East’s font does.


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Is that where the lower part of letters qypgj hang below the line of text?

I really like the font you put on the lower part of the double height screens: https://flic.kr/p/2kTUrsr
along with the font of the destination-only/short service displays: https://flic.kr/p/2kTxJBq

...but I dislike the standard bold font as the letters look cramped and square: https://flic.kr/p/2kTBPvp.
(The numbers on the 53/54 are ugly and dated in my opinion too, but I’ve noticed others like them (they were spotters though so probably bias)).

I like arrivas "4" s

(18 May 2021, 3:36 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Is that where the lower part of letters qypgj hang below the line of text?

I really like the font you put on the lower part of the double height screens: https://flic.kr/p/2kTUrsr
along with the font of the destination-only/short service displays: https://flic.kr/p/2kTxJBq

...but I dislike the standard bold font as the letters look cramped and square: https://flic.kr/p/2kTBPvp.
(The numbers on the 53/54 are ugly and dated in my opinion too, but I’ve noticed others like them (they were spotters though so probably bias)).

I'm the complete opposite, I prefer the standard font, and dislike the larger font!
Once again, it's down to the 'a's all looking like 'o's.

Put a proper 'a' in it, and I won't hate it so much!