This is getting ridiculous, can the police do anything.

(15 Jun 2021, 12:20 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote This is getting ridiculous, can the police do anything.

They'd probably just laugh,just done a bit of digging,and if your not happy with the response from Nexus,you could try these
enquiries@dvsa.gov.uk
https://bususers.org/contact-us/

(15 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm)V514DFT wrote They'd probably just laugh

Are nexus doing this on purpose i.e. awarding GCT the contract because of the lowness of bids in order to save a bit of cash, whilst not caring if the bus operates or not. If they are then isn't that fraud.

(15 Jun 2021, 12:40 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Are nexus doing this on purpose i.e. awarding GCT the contract because of the lowness of bids in order to save a bit of cash, whilst not caring if the bus operates or not. If they are then isn't that fraud.

I honestly dont know

(15 Jun 2021, 12:40 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Are nexus doing this on purpose i.e. awarding GCT the contract because of the lowness of bids in order to save a bit of cash, whilst not caring if the bus operates or not. If they are then isn't that fraud.

Yes. Pretty much. I’m not sure how you leap to fraud (which even if tampering was occurring, which it isn’t, it’s not fraud)

Nexus are cash strapped. The lowest bid will always win through. They don’t have the investment or resource to care otherwise

(15 Jun 2021, 6:16 pm)Ambassador wrote Yes. Pretty much. I’m not sure how you leap to fraud (which even if tampering was occurring, which it isn’t, it’s not fraud)

Nexus are cash strapped. The lowest bid will always win through. They don’t have the investment or resource to care otherwise

Maybe, i'm thinking wrong but it does seem very dodgy though, especially if you include the recent MOT saga.

Think at least two or three of the new E200s are running around with no front destination blind working. 82 due in at the Galleries at half 11 last night was in at least 4mins early and took the stand which forced the 50A which came in on time to use the drop off stand so he didn't block the bus station. Aye-ay-aye

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(15 Jun 2021, 11:59 pm)6049 wrote Think at least two or three of the new E200s are running around with no front destination blind working. 82 due in at the Galleries at half 11 last night was in at least 4mins early and took the stand which forced the 50A which came in on time to use the drop off stand so he didn't block the bus station. Aye-ay-aye

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Yea from the transport lesne video its RUC is one of them. There 21 plate buses and no front destination

Was on the W3. The driver was talking to his passenger at the front

He said roughly nearest 20 drivers left last week.

The bus on the W2 didn't have a ticket machine

He said that they keep getting awarded contracts but don't have the drivers nor the buses

He said last week (Wednesday if I remember correctly what he said. The W3 didn't run at all

(16 Jun 2021, 6:55 pm)Micheal Aaron wrote Was on the W3. The driver was talking to his passenger at the front

He said roughly nearest 20 drivers left last week.

The bus on the W2 didn't have a ticket machine

He said that they keep getting awarded contracts but don't have the drivers nor the buses

He said last week (Wednesday if I remember correctly what he said. The W3 didn't run at all

Any proof?,or was it just gossip?

(16 Jun 2021, 7:50 pm)V514DFT wrote Any proof?,or was it just gossip?

Gossip which is almost certainly true - this type of thing is a daily occurrence, and is well documented on this forum and elsewhere.


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(16 Jun 2021, 8:09 pm)Dan wrote Gossip which is almost certainly true - this type of thing is a daily occurrence, and is well documented on this forum and elsewhere.


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Thats what i thought

It was from the driver itself. The woman started by asking why the W3 wasn't running last week. Then he said all that. Dk why u would tell an old woman on your bus.

(16 Jun 2021, 8:25 pm)Micheal Aaron wrote It was from the driver itself. The woman started by asking why the W3 wasn't running last week. Then he said all that. Dk why u would tell an old woman on your bus.

Blame deflection - makes sure the aggrieved would-be passenger knows it's the Company's fault and not the driver's.  Although that then backfires when the statement leaks out and gets back to the manglement's ears ....

If all that we see reported here is true, I don't think Nexus can remain blameless either - yes, they want to get the bus service for as little as possible, but it would seem that they're paying out a lot of money and not getting what they've paid for.  Do they not even check that services run?  Or that the specified standards are met?

(Rhetorical question, I think .... they either don't check, or don't care, neither of which shows them in a good light)

Tbh. Here's my opinion. Nexus just don't care anymore. If they cared that much contract would ethier stay with who it got took of or hand it to someone who can do the job.

Two contracts got handed to gct and its not even them on it.

The SNS is being ran by L&B and the ferry replacement contract got handed to them as well but that went to L&B as it was there buses. Until GCT bought 3 of them for use of School runs.

Nexus seem to have past cared. I doubt the complaint are read

Yes its an opion

(17 Jun 2021, 2:09 pm)Micheal Aaron wrote Tbh. Here's my opinion. Nexus just don't care anymore. If they cared that much contract would ethier stay with who it got took of or hand it to someone who can do the job.

Two contracts got handed to gct and its not even them on it.

The SNS is being ran by L&B and the ferry replacement contract got handed to them as well but that went to L&B as it was there buses. Until GCT bought 3 of them for use of School runs.

Nexus seem to have past cared. I doubt the complaint are read

Yes its an opion

And ive already said what to do if your not happy with the reponse from Nexus....

(17 Jun 2021, 2:09 pm)Micheal Aaron wrote Tbh. Here's my opinion. Nexus just don't care anymore. If they cared that much contract would ethier stay with who it got took of or hand it to someone who can do the job.

Two contracts got handed to gct and its not even them on it.

The SNS is being ran by L&B and the ferry replacement contract got handed to them as well but that went to L&B as it was there buses. Until GCT bought 3 of them for use of School runs.

Nexus seem to have past cared. I doubt the complaint are read

Yes its an opion

*Yawn* 

Shut up. Nexus do not care,  and never did, GCT don't care and never did. There is no problem with other bus operators running services on GCT's behalf. GCT are unlikely to have the contracts forever (Phoenix got the M71 off GCT in March). Hopefully next March they will lose some other contracts (and likely gain the Newcastle 33/33A, as has been established and doesn't need repeating every 10 minutes). 

Please stop posting such nonsense, it's boring.

(17 Jun 2021, 4:19 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote *Yawn* 

Shut up. Nexus do not care,  and never did, GCT don't care and never did. There is no problem with other bus operators running services on GCT's behalf. GCT are unlikely to have the contracts forever (Phoenix got the M71 off GCT in March). Hopefully next March they will lose some other contracts (and likely gain the Newcastle 33/33A, as has been established and doesn't need repeating every 10 minutes). 

Please stop posting such nonsense, it's boring.

Is there not a more polite way of raising this concern?

(17 Jun 2021, 6:00 pm)ifm001 wrote Is there not a more polite way of raising this concern?

Not when it keeps happening, no. Sorry.

(17 Jun 2021, 6:06 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Not when it keeps happening, no. Sorry.

Leave the moderating to the moderators of this forum, please.


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(17 Jun 2021, 6:06 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Not when it keeps happening, no. Sorry.

Let's be honest, apart from the 30-odd new buses a year, a few repaints, a few buses parked in a car park as an "event" nowhere near where anyone lives, and a couple of streets being missed out every so often, there's not really much you can talk about in the North East bus scene before it becomes boring and repetitive... 

That's why I got into emergency services vehicles... you meet a better class of nerd

Being serious though this forum seems to be turning into a crusade against Gateshead Central.

Charles

Well to be honest they ain't exactly helping themselves.

(17 Jun 2021, 6:43 pm)Charles41 wrote That's why I got into emergency services vehicles... you meet a better class of nerd

Being serious though this forum seems to be turning into a crusade against Gateshead Central.

Charles

I wouldn't say it was a crusade against them, I think there's just an expectation as the tax payer is funding a service which the public can't really rely on.

Buses driving round several minutes early, or very late or not showing up at all. Yes, every operator faces challenges but the same issues with GCT are being flagged time and time again. Given that they have recently been in front of the Traffic Commissioner, it's no surprise they've got people keeping tabs on them.

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(18 Jun 2021, 9:04 am)6049 wrote I wouldn't say it was a crusade against them, I think there's just an expectation as the tax payer is funding a service which the public can't really rely on.

Buses driving round several minutes early, or very late or not showing up at all. Yes, every operator faces challenges but the same issues with GCT are being flagged time and time again. Given that they have recently been in front of the Traffic Commissioner, it's no surprise they've got people keeping tabs on them.

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I think everyone seems to forget that the GNE, Arriva and Stagecoach threads are also full of negativity!

Why do GNE 'waste' so much money on repaints, USB ports and WiFi?
Why don't Arriva buy some new buses?
Are Stagecoach going to be banned from Newcastle for not having enough Euro 6 vehicles?

It's not just a case of GNE good, GCT bad!

I'd like to think that if GCT did something positive, it would be shared as well

If the Nexus information board at Washington Galleries is correct (photo attached below) the 11:13 and 12:13 Barley Mow service 23 did not operate.

(19 Jun 2021, 2:29 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote If the Nexus information board at Washington Galleries is correct (photo attached below) the 11:13 and 12:13 Barley Mow service 23 did not operate.

The 12.13 did operation but left at 12.12 as I photo it as it was OCJ

arrvia did not operate the 548 45 to Dinnington or the 619 44 to Dinnington on Thursday. afternoon. So every company has the problem at one time or another.... have i mentioned the time i waited at Durham for a 21 to Low fell with a return GNE ticket and waited from 6pm till after 8pm for a bus to turn up??!!!

GCT doesn't show up on real time showing how long away the bus is, it just goes off the scheduled departure time than actual departure.

(19 Jun 2021, 2:29 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote If the Nexus information board at Washington Galleries is correct (photo attached below) the 11:13 and 12:13 Barley Mow service 23 did not operate.

I really wouldn't trust them boards, the ones in Park Lane haven't been right for over a year.