(10 Jan 2014, 11:46 am)citaro5284 wrote But was that not where the public said they needed a bus....hence why money was put into operating a service by Nexus and GNE?

A bus which serves their needs, going to Heworth, Gateshead Interchange etc or a bus which bypasses popular areas and skirts Newcastle inc places where queues of people are standing for a 27 or the first bus back to Hebburn?

8300 is out on 88 /88A today following its re-paint in to lilac.

8305 has now had its missing Lambton Worm branding applied to the off side.

(10 Jan 2014, 12:58 pm)Panasonic44 wrote They did, but Nexus or GNE didn't ask people where they want the bus service to go and the only way to increase usage is to extend to South Shields and accept Crusader Weekly ticket.

I miss South Shields depot, they had better service & reliable services before it closed down.

Why does it need to go to South Shields? everyone in hebburn has access to South Shields on the 27 or 88/88A

(10 Jan 2014, 2:20 pm)andreos1 wrote A bus which serves their needs, going to Heworth, Gateshead Interchange etc or a bus which bypasses popular areas and skirts Newcastle inc places where queues of people are standing for a 27 or the first bus back to Hebburn?

The complaints about services came from Argyle street/Victoria road west etc where the 27A used to run. The bus survey in hebburn asked people from these areas where they wanted to go - they said Newcastle, not Gateshead. This is why the 27X runs direct to Newcastle and omits Gateshead, as residents said they didn't travel there!

(10 Jan 2014, 3:57 pm)Crusader wrote Why does it need to go to South Shields? everyone in hebburn has access to South Shields on the 27 or 88/88A

I think it does need it because it will help with 27X and more people will use it as a quicker way to instead of waiting for 27.

88/88A takes very long time to get to South Shields.

Also not everyboady was asked or surveyed about 27x.

6085 is the latest B9 to enter service

(10 Jan 2014, 4:23 pm)Adam wrote 6085 is the latest B9 to enter service

i now need to photo 6088/6090/6092 and 6097 once i do those 4 gonna find the red ones anyways also i noted today Highwayman, Loop and Quaylink all on 27 with a Nexus Bus Solo on 27X it was supposed to say 27X but instead it said X27 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/11873310583/

More photos of Riverside depot, this time shared on Facebook by Steve Foster:

(10 Jan 2014, 3:25 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote 8300 is out on 88 /88A today following its re-paint in to lilac.

8305 has now had its missing Lambton Worm branding applied to the off side.

8300 was done yesterday

(10 Jan 2014, 3:59 pm)Crusader wrote The complaints about services came from Argyle street/Victoria road west etc where the 27A used to run. The bus survey in hebburn asked people from these areas where they wanted to go - they said Newcastle, not Gateshead. This is why the 27X runs direct to Newcastle and omits Gateshead, as residents said they didn't travel there!

If there is a small customer base, then take their needs into account, but look at growing the patronage, by having it serve a similar route to the 27 in Newcastle and Gateshead.

I wonder how many people let it go, because it doesn't stop at Gateshead?
Similarly, I bet there is a proportion of people who would get it home from the town, but won't go out of their way, when they can wait for a frequent 27.

(10 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)andreos1 wrote .
I wonder how many people let it go, because it doesn't stop at Gateshead?

I bet not many, Gateshead is not the centre of the World unlike Fencehouses!

(10 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)andreos1 wrote If there is a small customer base, then take their needs into account, but look at growing the patronage, by having it serve a similar route to the 27 in Newcastle and Gateshead.

I wonder how many people let it go, because it doesn't stop at Gateshead?
Similarly, I bet there is a proportion of people who would get it home from the town, but won't go out of their way, when they can wait for a frequent 27.

Valid point about growing patronage. Just look at the 73 for a bad example of that. Everyone who has argued for a bus service stuck together in one ridiculous route that goes nowhere fast.

Is closing doors an issue with all Citaros or just 5289.
I saw it today at a bus stop, its doors were like half closed and then they reopened. They mustn't like closing

(10 Jan 2014, 5:39 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Is closing doors an issue with all Citaros or just 5289.
I saw it today at a bus stop, its doors were like half closed and then they reopened. They mustn't like closing

A few of the doors on the 4 play or have been playing up too.

They have a delayed reaction on the bells too

Does any know, where the rest of Mercedes have gone from 27? I have seen in last 2 days alot of different buses on including new optare veras.

I do wish they would swap with 45/46 buses with 27s hehe.

(10 Jan 2014, 5:42 pm)andreos1 wrote A few of the doors on the 4 play or have been playing up too.

They have a delayed reaction on the bells too

Both problems are common with all batches of Citaros afaik.

(10 Jan 2014, 5:43 pm)Panasonic44 wrote Does any know, where the rest of Mercedes have gone from 27? I have seen in last 2 days alot of different buses on including new optare veras.

I do wish they would swap with 45/46 buses with 27s hehe.

ominicities would be ideal but i think gateshead are satisfied with the ones on the 27 as they are now i've ridden on these plenty of times and live on the route the renowns on 27 were ok at first after a few months the you could tell they were old they always seem to have problems eg rattling too much even the ones that were cascaded to wear tees express they sounded they had a cow on as the engine roared

(10 Jan 2014, 5:49 pm)Bazza Houston wrote ominicities would be ideal but i think gateshead are satisfied with the ones on the 27 as they are now i've ridden on these plenty of times and live on the route the renowns on 27 were ok at first after a few months the you could tell they were old they always seem to have problems eg rattling too much even the ones that were cascaded to wear tees express they sounded they had a cow on as the engine roared

I think the roar of the WTX batch sounds great. Sound-wise I'd say they're some of the best in the fleet. Can't say the same for performance but hey ho.

(10 Jan 2014, 5:49 pm)Bazza Houston wrote ominicities would be ideal but i think gateshead are satisfied with the ones on the 27 as they are now i've ridden on these plenty of times and live on the route the renowns on 27 were ok at first after a few months the you could tell they were old they always seem to have problems eg rattling too much even the ones that were cascaded to wear tees express they sounded they had a cow on as the engine roared

Bazza I thought Cows "Mooowed" and Lions "Roarded", Or am I Mistaken

(10 Jan 2014, 5:52 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Bazza I thought Cows "Mooowed" and Lions "Roarded", Or am I Mistaken

they do but i was also thinking of a pun the sound of 4906 sounded like a cow but at least it was mooving but the roar came from the engine

(10 Jan 2014, 6:00 pm)Bazza Houston wrote they do but i was also thinking of a pun the sound of 4906 sounded like a cow but at least it was mooving but the roar came from the engine

That isn't a "Pun" Bazza, it's just poor English

(10 Jan 2014, 6:08 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote That isn't a "Pun" Bazza, it's just poor English

Still working on them today did ya see Nexus Bus Solo on 27X however it did have the wrong route number on

Prince Bishops to be fitted with SCRT to reduce emissions. No new doubles deckers for the Prince Bishops then

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10...s/?ref=rss

I live on 27 route myself but i do wish gateshead depot would trial them. I too like omnicity because I ridden on them, on 309 and 1.

The mercs have only been on the 27 5 minutes, is it not a potential waste of money painting up yet more buses

(10 Jan 2014, 2:20 pm)andreos1 wrote A bus which serves their needs, going to Heworth, Gateshead Interchange etc or a bus which bypasses popular areas and skirts Newcastle inc places where queues of people are standing for a 27 or the first bus back to Hebburn?

There was a lot of work went into the 27X with the local folk in Hebburn, so it goes where they wanted it to go & it needed to work within the constraints of the funding as it wasn't expected to be commercial, but it isn't carrying what was anticipated which is disappointing. Would your QCS world double the cost, lower the fares and probably still not pull in a better rate of return and leave the taxpayers of Tyne & Wear footing the bill ?

Looking at the 29 timetable it's gonna need 8 buses for its PVR

X3 - not sure
29 - 8 PVR
38/238 - 3 PVR?
39 - 5 PVR
X35/X36 - 11 PVR
99 - 2 PVR

Have i worked it out right? (this is just for Deptford)

(10 Jan 2014, 8:06 pm)busman101 wrote There was a lot of work went into the 27X with the local folk in Hebburn, so it goes where they wanted it to go & it needed to work within the constraints of the funding as it wasn't expected to be commercial, but it isn't carrying what was anticipated which is disappointing. Would your QCS world double the cost, lower the fares and probably still not pull in a better rate of return and leave the taxpayers of Tyne & Wear footing the bill ?

Im sure there was, but there's nowt as queer as folk who say one thing and do another.
To rely on their say so and not have a back up plan in wondering what passengers a few mile down the road want, the fact Tesco on Tyne was about to open or not having it pick up at the same points in Newcastle as the 27 is a funny one too.

By the time Betty and Fred have got off the 27x, had a wander around the town, popped into the Grainger Market for their Sunday Chicken, his knee will have gone and her bad ankles will be playing up.
They will cross over the road and get the 27, before changing onto an 88 or something after a cup of tea in Morrisons.

Angela will have just finished a 12 hour shift at the hospital and is running late for the kids, rather than run the risk of missing the 27x, she nips down for a 27, knowing there will be one soon.

If it is being funded, surely the aim is to make it work, get rid of the shackles of Nexus and make it a commercial success?

Why are they still running the X3

(10 Jan 2014, 8:21 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Why are they still running the X3

No idea, its a stupid idea, to me it is, the money and buses could of being used else where (more mainly to get rid the older buses), i'm still working out where its gonna turn, unless its going to use the roundabout at St Mary's?