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Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022

Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022

RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:25 pm)Unber43 wrote The thing is about the X46 is that doesn't have enough customers, but we'll send the 47 down the same route at double the frequency (if I got the route right)
X46 was still a good route, like the X70 they have been running for a long time and always been dedicated!
2 Buses to Metro from Consett with the latest bus every 30 minutes is gonna cause a little chaos.
Currently was 4 now down to 2
for Newcastle Buses was 6 now down to 3
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:27 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote X46 was still a good route, like the X70 they have been running for a long time and always been dedicated!
2 Buses to Metro from Consett with the latest bus every 30 minutes is gonna cause a little chaos.
Currently was 4 now down to 2
for Newcastle Buses was 6 now down to 3
Yep, X45 every 30 mins was only done (imo) to either allow the Streetdecks to go onto X1/X21. And to make sure there was enough E400 MMC for the rest of the services.

How many E400 MMC are free now? Really PVR X70 is 2.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:29 pm)Unber43 wrote Yep, X45 every 30 mins was only done (imo) to either allow the Streetdecks to go onto X1/X21. And to make sure there was enough E400 MMC for the rest of the services.

How many E400 MMC are free now? Really PVR X70 is 2.
Streetdecks on the X21 will never happen again as a full time allocation, they just came off. Also 1 of the 2020 Streetdecks will be heading off to Washington for the X1.
I'm curious with the silly rumour of the Streetdecks and 400MMC's routes swapping at Consett
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:34 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Streetdecks on the X21 will never happen again as a full time allocation, they just came off. Also 1 of the 2020 Streetdecks will be heading off to Washington for the X1.
I'm curious with the silly rumour of the Streetdecks and 400MMC's routes swapping at Consett

The Streetdeck's are leaving the X-Lines network at Consett, that's not a rumour. Dan confirmed it when the usual suggestion by someone for the 15th time on what's going where at Consett.

The X30/31/70/45 PVR is 1 less of the total of the Enviro 400 MMC's.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:34 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Streetdecks on the X21 will never happen again as a full time allocation, they just came off. Also 1 of the 2020 Streetdecks will be heading off to Washington for the X1.
I'm curious with the silly rumour of the Streetdecks and 400MMC's routes swapping at Consett
There has just been one on the X21 for 2 days. 

Well where are they going then, the other 6.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:35 pm)Storx wrote The Streetdeck's are leaving the X-Lines network at Consett, that's not a rumour. Dan confirmed it when the usual suggestion by someone for the 15th time on what's going where at Consett.

The X30/31/70/45 PVR is 1 less of the total of the Enviro 400 MMC's.
And that X72 dont forget so PVR might be 2 or 3 less.
The Streetdecks leaving is a silly choice. If i was to think where they would go i would say Washington since the 50 is going full Double Decker allocation (finally at the right time).
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Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:57 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote And that X72 dont forget so PVR might be 2 or 3 less.
The Streetdecks leaving is a silly choice. If i was to think where they would go i would say Washington since the 50 is going full Double Decker allocation (finally at the right time).


The 50 already has a full double deck allocation (6301-7).


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RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 9:57 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote And that X72 dont forget so PVR might be 2 or 3 less.
The Streetdecks leaving is a silly choice. If i was to think where they would go i would say Washington since the 50 is going full Double Decker allocation (finally at the right time).

I messed up the numbers there was meant to be X30/31/71/72/46 whoops.

PVR's are off the top of my head

X30/X31 - 3
X45 - 5
X71/72 - 5

Washington have 6301 - 6307 for the 50 though. It's pretty much guesswork where the Streetdeck's are going though, either the 47/57/58/X21 are the only realistic options really but none of them really need them tbh.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 10:05 pm)Dan wrote The 50 already has a full double deck allocation (6301-7).


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That's not what I see passing my house every day.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 10:40 pm)BusLoverMum wrote That's not what I see passing my house every day.

Currently it's allocated a mix of 6301-7 and Streetlites, from tomorrow the 50 becomes standalone so should just be the deckers.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
So what’s been painted and what’s moved depots overnight to accommodate the new changes. I’ve never know so many changes in the history of go north east apart from when the branding started
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
Some interesting changes in terms of vehicle workings this morning from the tracking on Bus Times:

The 0410 56 from Newcastle is worked by Riverside using a ‘Crusader’ B9 - which then works the 0559 27 from South Shields

The Sunday morning 47s from Blackhall Mill have reverted back to Riverside operation using ‘Tyne Valley Ten’ B9s working onto 10s in Newcastle.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 10:07 pm)Storx wrote I messed up the numbers there was meant to be X30/31/71/72/46 whoops.

PVR's are off the top of my head

X30/X31 - 3
X45 - 5
X71/72 - 5

Washington have 6301 - 6307 for the 50 though. It's pretty much guesswork where the Streetdeck's are going though, either the 47/57/58/X21 are the only realistic options really but none of them really need them tbh.
Is it not:
- X30/X31/X45 - 8x
- X71/X72 - 5x

Given the very high spec interior of the StreetDecks and that an ex dealer stock vehicle is still making up the PVR of the X21, it would make sense allocating 6356-63 on there then B5TLs either going on the 47 or 58.

In fact, B5TLs on the 58 would match exact PVR and provide a slight capacity boost. 6334/35 as spares would then allow 6336/37 to go back to Consett. Riverside could then use 6099 on the X10 if needed.

@Dan are you in position to be able to confirm allocations or still work in progress?
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 7:39 am)Jack Gill wrote X30 is Riverside operated on a Sunday now I think.
That's correct as it interworks from and onto the 6 in Stanley which in turn interworks with the 12.

It wouldn't surprise me later down the line with GNE winning the Sunday X15 contract if the X72 also gets thrown into that interworking pattern with the 6/12/X30.

At the moment, it appears that the Sunday X72 interworks with the X45.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 5:18 am)Kuyoyo wrote Some interesting changes in terms of vehicle workings this morning from the tracking on Bus Times:

The 0410 56 from Newcastle is worked by Riverside using a ‘Crusader’ B9 - which then works the 0559 27 from South Shields

The Sunday morning 47s from Blackhall Mill have reverted back to Riverside operation using ‘Tyne Valley Ten’ B9s working onto 10s in Newcastle.
If you look at Deptford. 

You have one which do 5>24>61A, 60>35A. 

It also appears that the 57&58 do interwork but with no particular pattern.

(24 Jul 2022, 7:13 am)L469 YVK wrote Is it not:
- X30/X31/X45 - 8x
- X71/X72 - 5x

Given the very high spec interior of the StreetDecks and that an ex dealer stock vehicle is still making up the PVR of the X21, it would make sense allocating 6356-63 on there then B5TLs either going on the 47 or 58.

In fact, B5TLs on the 58 would match exact PVR and provide a slight capacity boost. 6334/35 as spares would then allow 6336/37 to go back to Consett. Riverside could then use 6099 on the X10 if needed.

@Dan are you in  position to be able to confirm allocations or still work in progress?
I don't get why people are saying Boost the Capacity of the 58 it doesn't need it. AT ALL. Tbf it would probs be more fuel efficent running Versa's on it, with it being every 12 mins in peak. 

If the 58 gets a capacity upgrade, it only extra spare seats
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 9:20 am)Unber43 wrote If you look at Deptford. 

You have one which do 5>24>61A, 60>35A. 

It also appears that the 57&58 do interwork but with no particular pattern.

I don't get why people are saying Boost the Capacity of the 58 it doesn't need it. AT ALL. Tbf it would probs be more fuel efficent running Versa's on it, with it being every 12 mins in peak. 

If the 58 gets a capacity upgrade, it only extra spare seats
It will need the extra capacity for Follingsby Amazon.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 9:32 am)L469 YVK wrote It will need the extra capacity for Follingsby Amazon.
im pretty sure the current 30-40 extra seats will suffice
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
It looks like some of the Ex Saltwell Park Streetlites have gone back on the 34 and 8319-28 will be on the 25 and 28. - a post by Dan on the North East Bus Enthusiasts page.


What's allocated to the 29?
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RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 9:44 am)Michael wrote It looks like some of the Ex Saltwell Park Streetlites have gone back on the 34 and 8319-28 will be on the 25 and 28. - a post by Dan on the North East Bus Enthusiasts page.


What's allocated to the 29?

29 Interworks with the 28 , so will be the same allocation
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 9:44 am)Michael wrote It looks like some of the Ex Saltwell Park Streetlites have gone back on the 34 and 8319-28 will be on the 25 and 28. - a post by Dan on the North East Bus Enthusiasts page.


What's allocated to the 29?

The 28/29 interwork so it'll be the same batch of Versa's.

Guessing that means all the 09 Versa's are withdrawn or should be on paper bar the few Euro 6 ones at Riverside.
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
The Quaylink QA this morning had a full sized Q and a superscript A.

Personally speaking, if GNE must use superscript text for letters, I'd have gone with a smaller Q and full sized A / B - but each to their own.

Not to re-labour the point, the bigger fish to fry is getting the numbers on the right side of the display to start with!
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 9:46 am)gc802002 wrote 29 Interworks with the 28 , so will be the same allocation

(24 Jul 2022, 9:48 am)Storx wrote The 28/29 interwork so it'll be the same batch of Versa's.

Guessing that means all the 09 Versa's are withdrawn or should be on paper bar the few Euro 6 ones at Riverside.

Ah right, was a daft question tbh haha.
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RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
Appears the 35A which terminates in Sunderland appears to Interwork with the 9 & Presumably 5/5A. 

Bit strange that they are using Prince Bishops

I do feel bad the driver who is driving the 5/5A from 7:30 till 11:30
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
(23 Jul 2022, 10:05 pm)Dan wrote The 50 already has a full double deck allocation (6301-7).


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Ah fair enough then, Love the Streetdecks on the 50. Suit the route very well!
RE: Go North East: Major Service Changes July 2022
Does the X45 and 47 have a long layover at Consett on Sundays?

Surely it would be more efficient on Sundays for:

- X72 ran by Riverside interworking with 6/12/X30 >> would save fuel costs using a single decker

- 16B/47/X15/X45 interworking >> E400MMC would save fuel & maintenance costs over older B5LHs. Could be easily regulated at Consett with reliefs & new vehicle should there be any traffic issues ex Newcastle (i.e Matchdays) with most reliefs scheduled before heading to Durham.

- Short X15 interworking with 78