(22 Sep 2022, 10:14 pm)Ambassador wrote Wasn’t sure where to put this but I’d like to report an anti GNE tree, it may be one of Malarkey’s or even Andreos tree variants.

See, GNE can’t serve High Street West at Gateshead because of a tree blocking the road,

However…this tree doesn’t seem to be attacking Arriva or JH Coaches who still serve the route.

I really hope this anti GNE tree can be restrained.

Is it possible that buses only hit this tree if they're deckers?

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(22 Sep 2022, 10:19 pm)streetdeckfan wrote You sure it's not just Unber standing at the side with a twig so they can complain about them going the wrong way?
Then again, that assumes they can manage to look away from Bustimes for more than 10 seconds

I can assure you it's not me, tbf I only look at bus times when I am tracking a bus for me or a friend, which when I notice rare workings.

(22 Sep 2022, 10:14 pm)Ambassador wrote Wasn’t sure where to put this but I’d like to report an anti GNE tree, it may be one of Malarkey’s or even Andreos tree variants.

See, GNE can’t serve High Street West at Gateshead because of a tree blocking the road,

However…this tree doesn’t seem to be attacking Arriva or JH Coaches who still serve the route.

I really hope this anti GNE tree can be restrained.

I’ve experienced the anti-GNE tree. It tried to claw me through an open cab window. It’s particularly vicious towards Ivory Towers.


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(22 Sep 2022, 10:34 pm)Unber43 wrote Is it possible that buses only hit this tree if they're deckers?

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I can assure you it's not me, tbf I only look at bus times when I am tracking a bus for me or a friend, which when I notice rare workings.

Nope as the 29 went down the high street on saturday

(23 Sep 2022, 10:34 am)Rob44 wrote Nope as the 29 went down the high street on saturday

It's mixed some 29's down High Street West, some go straight down the High Street while some go straight along through Prince Consort RD then down Regent Street.

(22 Sep 2022, 10:14 pm)Ambassador wrote Wasn’t sure where to put this but I’d like to report an anti GNE tree, it may be one of Malarkey’s or even Andreos tree variants.

See, GNE can’t serve High Street West at Gateshead because of a tree blocking the road,

However…this tree doesn’t seem to be attacking Arriva or JH Coaches who still serve the route.

I really hope this anti GNE tree can be restrained.

But what if the Anti GNE Tree was planted by GNE and they have used a form of Correction like in BBC Drama The Capture to show it being someone else when it's not...wouldn't put it past them or MG planted it there as revenge for them revoking his free staff travel after leaving GNE for LUMO, the possibilities are endless but it sure as hell isn't "Malarkey Tree Variant" because I for one wouldn't put my passengers through experiencing the eye sore that is Gateshead High Street.

I feel bad for anyone wanting the 57/49/49A tomorrow, there is a tonne of cancellations especially for the 49/49A.

(23 Sep 2022, 9:18 pm)Unber43 wrote I feel bad for anyone wanting the 57/49/49A tomorrow, there is a tonne of cancellations especially for the 49/49A.

Bet you’re glad you’ve got that page back!


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(23 Sep 2022, 9:54 pm)Dan wrote Bet you’re glad you’ve got that page back!


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I am so glad it's back, I didn't realise how needed that page was untill I waited an hour for the 50. 

Tbf GNE even tho they are in a disaster with the driver shortage the spreading out of the cancellations are quite good.

No Rail service or alternative transport being provided from Northern on the Durham Coast Line or between Middlesbrough and Saltburn this weekend (believe the TPE Rail Reps between Middlesbrough and Redcar Central are running however).

(24 Sep 2022, 6:46 am)Jimmi wrote No Rail service or alternative transport being provided from Northern on the Durham Coast Line or between Middlesbrough and Saltburn this weekend (believe the TPE Rail Reps between Middlesbrough and Redcar Central are running however).

Strange, there was a Levante II on Frederick Street, Sunderland at approx 12:30 yesterday on a rail replacement to Middlesbrough

X21 needs a layover in Eldon Square, a lot of them are 10-30 mins late.

One yesterday was an hour late. The 70' Plates seems to be handling it well. 

But where are all the B5's theres only 2 on!

6003 (Crusader) seems to have broke down at Birtley, gladly it wasn’t on the A1 otherwise it would have came to a standstill.

(28 Sep 2022, 4:06 pm)Unber43 wrote X21 needs a layover in Eldon Square, a lot of them are 10-30 mins late.

One yesterday was an hour late. The 70' Plates seems to be handling it well. 

But where are all the B5's theres only 2 on!

6003 (Crusader) seems to have broke down at Birtley, gladly it wasn’t on the A1 otherwise it would have came to a standstill.

Generally speaking, 1 PVR equates to roughly 3 extra drivers being required.

If you want GNE to add an extra bus back into the PVR to aid reliability, I hope you wouldn’t then complain when it results in a greater number of short-notice cancellations!


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(28 Sep 2022, 4:06 pm)Unber43 wrote But where are all the B5's theres only 2 on!

6003 (Crusader) seems to have broke down at Birtley, gladly it wasn’t on the A1 otherwise it would have came to a standstill.

Can't you just check bustimes to find out? 

I mean, the driver would have been able to pull onto the hard shoulder and cause zero disruption...

(28 Sep 2022, 4:06 pm)Unber43 wrote X21 needs a layover in Eldon Square, a lot of them are 10-30 mins late.

One yesterday was an hour late. The 70' Plates seems to be handling it well. 

But where are all the B5's theres only 2 on!

6003 (Crusader) seems to have broke down at Birtley, gladly it wasn’t on the A1 otherwise it would have came to a standstill.

It’s not the vehicles, it’s a combination of the roadworks near the angel and new student week grinding the roads in Durham city to a halt, as it does this time every year.

(28 Sep 2022, 8:01 pm)BusLoverMum wrote It’s not the vehicles, it’s a combination of the roadworks near the angel and new student week grinding the roads in Durham city to a halt, as it does this time every year.

There's also the roadworks in Bishop, there's 4 way lights at KwikFit so that can easily end up being a 10 minute wait to get through each way

(28 Sep 2022, 7:38 pm)Dan wrote Generally speaking, 1 PVR equates to roughly 3 extra drivers being required.

If you want GNE to add an extra bus back into the PVR to aid reliability, I hope you wouldn’t then complain when it results in a greater number of short-notice cancellations!


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Nice to know. 

Me personally I would rahter have 5 listed cancellations, than 3 cancellations, and 4 X21's Not running between X & X. And thats only if they tell you, most of the time its just turned around at Gateshead without anyone knowing. 

A Friend as experienced it a lot on the 20/60, just turning up and going NIS, I would much rather the PVR +1 be added for more layover time and another 3-4 extra cancellations as you know they'll atleast run without waiting 5-25 mins then it going NIS and waiting even longer

(28 Sep 2022, 10:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote There's also the roadworks in Bishop, there's 4 way lights at KwikFit so that can easily end up being a 10 minute wait to get through each way

They are horrendous.

The X21 should've been terminated at Durham imo with ticket acceptance on the 6 between Durham and West Auckland, with the same in return with the X12 cancelled between Durham and Newcastle with tickets accepted on the X21.

It's ridiculous that there's duplicate services running when other areas have gaps all over the place at both depots as much as the inconvenience is for changing buses. The 21 between Brandon and Durham being another.

(29 Sep 2022, 9:06 pm)Storx wrote The X21 should've been terminated at Durham imo with ticket acceptance on the 6 between Durham and West Auckland, with the same in return with the X12 cancelled between Durham and Newcastle with tickets accepted on the X21.

It's ridiculous that there's duplicate services running when other areas have gaps all over the place at both depots as much as the inconvenience is for changing buses. The 21 between Brandon and Durham being another.

But that’s not going to happen. 

X21 from when I've been on it are getting better loadings than the 6.

Also no one is going to use the bus if they have to change buses, no one wants that.
Its the same when people bang on about GNE with tables/USBs thats to get people who would use the car to start using the bus. If its a 55' Plate OmniDekka no one wants to travel on that unless you need to, its about making it passenger freindly, tables do that whether people like it or not. If I was to go from Newcastle to Consett I would much rather have a E400 MMC, than some OmniDekka if I had the option for taking the car. If I was stuck on nosey streetlite or older awfully loud G1 I would take the car.

(29 Sep 2022, 9:25 pm)Unber43 wrote But that’s not going to happen. 

X21 from when I've been on it are getting better loadings than the 6.

Also no one is going to use the bus if they have to change buses, no one wants that.
Its the same when people bang on about GNE with tables/USBs thats to get people who would use the car to start using the bus. If its a 55' Plate OmniDekka no one wants to travel on that unless you need to, its about making it passenger freindly, tables do that whether people like it or not. If I was to go from Newcastle to Consett I would much rather have a E400 MMC, than some OmniDekka if I had the option for taking the car. If I was stuck on nosey streetlite or older awfully loud G1 I would take the car.

That's not the point though, there's other areas with services all over the place and there's duplicate services running.

Both Stockton and Riverside are having cancellations.

I'm sure the residents in Blaydon appreciate the hourly bus service at rush hour tomorrow on the 12 while there's 6 buses an hour running between Durham and Bishop Auckland (if Arriva haven't cancelled half their services) especially when that service used to be 4 buses an hour not too long ago.

It's all good operating buses in other operating areas but they should look after their own customers first. The people in Blaydon / Winlaton have no alternative, those going to Bishop Auckland have 4 buses an hour with a change.

(29 Sep 2022, 9:58 pm)Storx wrote That's not the point though, there's other areas with services all over the place and there's duplicate services running.

Both Stockton and Riverside are having cancellations.

I'm sure the residents in Blaydon appreciate the hourly bus service at rush hour tomorrow on the 12 while there's 6 buses an hour running between Durham and Bishop Auckland (if Arriva haven't cancelled half their services) especially when that service used to be 4 buses an hour not too long ago.

It's all good operating buses in other operating areas but they should look after their own customers first. The people in Blaydon / Winlaton have no alternative, those going to Bishop Auckland have 4 buses an hour with a change.

With that logic, you might as well just scrap the X21 all together, since what's left of it would just duplicate the 21.

While you're at it, might as well scrap the 49A between Metrocentre and Gateshead since it just duplicates the 49. It's unfair for people in Dunston to have 4 buses an hour! Oh, then there's the 10s, everyone can just change at Crawcrook since they all duplicate each other to Newcastle.

It would make more sense for passengers for Arriva to pull the Durham-West Auckland 6, and have GNE run a half hourly to West Auckland, and Arriva run a half hourly to Cockfield, with mutual ticket acceptance.

(30 Sep 2022, 3:21 am)streetdeckfan wrote With that logic, you might as well just scrap the X21 all together, since what's left of it would just duplicate the 21.

While you're at it, might as well scrap the 49A between Metrocentre and Gateshead since it just duplicates the 49. It's unfair for people in Dunston to have 4 buses an hour! Oh, then there's the 10s, everyone can just change at Crawcrook since they all duplicate each other to Newcastle.

It would make more sense for passengers for Arriva to pull the Durham-West Auckland 6, and have GNE run a half hourly to West Auckland, and Arriva run a half hourly to Cockfield, with mutual ticket acceptance.

It's not really the same as the 49/10 though.

Mind don't disagree with the second bit actually think I'll change it all around so it's now:

21: Scrapped South of CLS
X12: Still Running
X21: Still Running
6: Like you said

Would make more sense curtailing the short services rather than the long thinking about it. People going to the Arnison can change onto the 50 and the 6 or so stops not served on the X12 can change at CLS. It also helps getting the core section of the Angel running.

(30 Sep 2022, 3:21 am)streetdeckfan wrote With that logic, you might as well just scrap the X21 all together, since what's left of it would just duplicate the 21.

While you're at it, might as well scrap the 49A between Metrocentre and Gateshead since it just duplicates the 49. It's unfair for people in Dunston to have 4 buses an hour! Oh, then there's the 10s, everyone can just change at Crawcrook since they all duplicate each other to Newcastle.

It would make more sense for passengers for Arriva to pull the Durham-West Auckland 6, and have GNE run a half hourly to West Auckland, and Arriva run a half hourly to Cockfield, with mutual ticket acceptance.

Might aswell scrap the 20A and just have it run from Houghton to West Rainton.

And the 35 between Barnes Park and East Herrington. 

And you might aswell just only run the 47 between Blackhall MIll and Rowlands Gill.

Then you might aswell curb all the buses at Metro and just have the X45 extended to Newcastle.

(30 Sep 2022, 7:49 am)Unber43 wrote Might aswell scrap the 20A and just have it run from Houghton to West Rainton.

And the 35 between Barnes Park and East Herrington. 

And you might aswell just only run the 47 between Blackhall MIll and Rowlands Gill.

Then you might aswell curb all the buses at Metro and just have the X45 extended to Newcastle.

Must've missed the bit where Arriva and Stagecoach are the principal operator in all those areas.

The ironic thing is a half hourly shuttle bus on the 10B with guaranteed connections with one of the 10's at Prudhoe with the 10A still running every 30 minutes would be better service anyway imo. Hourly bus services are a waste of time.

(30 Sep 2022, 7:54 am)Storx wrote Must've missed the bit where Arriva and Stagecoach are the principal operator in all those areas.

Clearly they aren't doing a good job, by all accounts the 21 extension to Brandon, X21 to West Auckland are doing great numbers.

I assume as Dan mentioned that they had talks with Bowburn Amazon (i think) not sure how far they went tho, that any bus taken down their would do well.

The thing is with Arriva you have to change in Durham for pretty much anything, and if youre in Brandon you can get a bus straight to newcastle.

Maybe with Bowburn that GNE could possibly sent an hourly, 21, 20, 16, 50 down their. Not sure how great it would do as every 58 I see is dead (outside of peak) I saw a X58 at Gateshead and it had about 10 people on

And for all some of you might not agree, was it the USB's, Tables, Leather Seats quiet bus that may have took passengers off 49/49A ofcourse it was. A lot of them get off in Durham too

What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.

Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed. 

There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again). 

X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20. 

Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other. 

I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.

(01 Oct 2022, 8:21 pm)Unber43 wrote What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.

Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed. 

There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again). 

X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20. 

Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other. 

I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.

Not to mention the delays on the 27 and other East Gateshead services.

(01 Oct 2022, 8:21 pm)Unber43 wrote What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.

Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed. 

There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again). 

X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20. 

Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other. 

I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.

What do you honestly expect with the Sunderland services when there's 42k supporters who usually fill 3 Metro's heading towards Newcastle attempting to use buses or driving instead adding delays everywhere. Not to mention people between Hexham / Durham / Metro Centre and Newcastle aswell which are all extremely popular train routes (believe it or not, not everyone prefers buses - infact most people don't).

Also obviously you didn't check the GNE Twitter too well as there was an unplanned march by the train drivers which messed everything up at Central yesterday which didn't help.

Ridiculous post.

(02 Oct 2022, 6:06 am)Storx wrote What do you honestly expect with the Sunderland services when there's 42k supporters who usually fill 3 Metro's heading towards Newcastle attempting to use buses or driving instead adding delays everywhere. Not to mention people between Hexham / Durham / Metro Centre and Newcastle aswell which are all extremely popular train routes (believe it or not, not everyone prefers buses - infact most people don't).

Also obviously you didn't check the GNE Twitter too well as there was an unplanned march by the train drivers which messed everything up at Central yesterday which didn't help.

Ridiculous post.

Right, but you're missing the 3x 47's, and the 2x X45's and that happened during the planned march, there is no way they could have got to Consett and Back while it was on. 

And tbf the 10s were running relatively ontime and they weren't that busy actually. 

I mean I get the 56 delays, 9/24/5 will always suffer on match days, the 24 (old 20) always has.

(02 Oct 2022, 8:35 am)Unber43 wrote Right, but you're missing the 3x 47's, and the 2x X45's and that happened during the planned march, there is no way they could have got to Consett and Back while it was on. 

And tbf the 10s were running relatively ontime and they weren't that busy actually. 

I mean I get the 56 delays, 9/24/5 will always suffer on match days, the 24 (old 20) always has.

Metro Centre I could imagine for the 47's, guessing people have chose them for whatever reason. The trains are usually quite busy heading along there. Not to mention the knock on effects of everyone driving everywhere, the roads were awfully busy for a Saturday yesterday

I believe there were some cancellations that way aswell which won't help.