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RE: Withdrawn buses
(17 Jan 2023, 6:10 pm)Dyllan7817 wrote 762 is now back on the road and has passed its MOT at Stockton

762 isn’t back on the road yet, the current 762 that’s tracking on bus times was a mixture of Durhams 1507 that’s on long term loan to Darlington, and now currently 1477 is tracking as 762, 761 has returned to frontline service this week
RE: Withdrawn buses
(23 Jan 2023, 5:36 pm)Ryland wrote 1430 now off the road following from an rtc today
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Also 1439 on Wednesday
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RE: Withdrawn buses
(29 Jan 2023, 11:43 pm)Mark66t wrote Also 1439 on Wednesday

1439 is presently at Wakefield depot for repair. The damage was minor in comparison to others recently involved in RTCs.
RE: Withdrawn buses
Even after all the transfers to ensure it doesn't happen, it's taken approximately 8 hours for a non-CAZ compliant bus to go into the CAZ. 2603 is on the 44.

7515 cut it close too last night, was on a board due to finish at Haymarket at 0000, but arrived about 5 early.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(30 Jan 2023, 8:26 am)mb134 wrote Even after all the transfers to ensure it doesn't happen, it's taken approximately 8 hours for a non-CAZ compliant bus to go into the CAZ. 2603 is on the 44.

7515 cut it close too last night, was on a board due to finish at Haymarket at 0000, but arrived about 5 early.

I don't know but the Solos might have an exception if the new order of minibuses is coming soon which was planned?

Unless the changes are permenant which they say they aren't then they need buses from somewhere as they've gave everything away. (The buses currently on the 55 should be enough though if a new order came).
RE: Withdrawn buses
(30 Jan 2023, 9:52 am)Storx wrote I don't know but the Solos might have an exception if the new order of minibuses is coming soon which was planned?

Unless the changes are permenant which they say they aren't then they need buses from somewhere as they've gave everything away. (The buses currently on the 55 should be enough though if a new order came).

The Solos at Walkergate shouldn't need replacing - the work they are meant to be used on (the 553 and 555) doesn't enter the CAZ area - hence why they weren't replaced alongside the older examples in the autumn (plus, they aren't much use anywhere else either - believe the Whitby examples will be needing replacing soon due to age restrictions on the Lealholmside contract, likewise the Park and Ride Geminis are approaching replacement for the same reason).
RE: Withdrawn buses
(30 Jan 2023, 10:00 am)Kuyoyo wrote The Solos at Walkergate shouldn't need replacing - the work they are meant to be used on (the 553 and 555) doesn't enter the CAZ area - hence why they weren't replaced alongside the older examples in the autumn (plus, they aren't much use anywhere else either - believe the Whitby examples will be needing replacing soon due to age restrictions on the Lealholmside contract, likewise the Park and Ride Geminis are approaching replacement for the same reason).

Yeah some valid points, tbh I was just thinking more about fleet consolidation. Assuming they'll all end up at Ashington at some point as there's nothing for the 55 currently. So maybe get a batch to replace the lot since the 5 for the 57/57A are as unreliable as ever. I believe there's been roughly 3 days this year where it's been fully Solo operated (excluding the board at around 8pm that runs off the 2). 

Seems a bit silly having 5 59 plates, 3 61 plates and whatever is going on the 55 but then again this is Arriva. 

Ideally they need to get shot of the lot of them (including Durham) especially if Whitby need them gone aswell. Sure Medway could take them if need be and get arid of their old stock running on town services where they should be.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(16 Jan 2023, 6:55 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote think one or two of them are sat in Darlington yard in the scrap corner
1534 has been working for Stockton.  I'm sure it was rumored to be having 1494's engine donated too.
RE: Withdrawn buses
Interesting to note Solo 2865 in scrap corner at Darlington. Steering wheel cover on and NFS label applied to the windscreen. Maybe just stored for now . Surely there are older more decrepit examples to go before this one, unless it has serious mechanical issues?
RE: Withdrawn buses
(28 Jul 2023, 3:33 pm)9920up wrote 2868 now in the scrap corner keeping 2865 company at Darlington

2869 is now parked in the scrap corner as of last night at Darlington keeping 2865/8 company leaving 2841/58 as the last two active solos at Darlington
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 8:05 am)Ryland wrote According to bus times 2871 is now withdrawn.

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/history?ve...rator=ANEA

Yet withdrawing 2011 plates buses when there still 2007/8/9 plates in worse states on the road?
Is 4723 withdrawn or still pending repair

They're all as bad as each other, they just need to order another batch of Enviro 200 MMC's (or something else) - not sure how many is actually needed and get shot of them. The 08 plate is the most reliable at Ashington ironically, 2854 and 2856 and being much worse. 2856 seems to be banned from the 57/57A for some reason which considering it's the reason it's there for is a problem.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 9:29 am)Storx wrote They're all as bad as each other, they just need to order another batch of Enviro 200 MMC's (or something else) - not sure how many is actually needed and get shot of them. The 08 plate is the most reliable at Ashington ironically, 2854 and 2856 and being much worse. 2856 seems to be banned from the 57/57A for some reason which considering it's the reason it's there for is a problem.

Or maybe Ashington just need to get their engineering staff in order - ironic that the issues with the 59 plates only became major when Ashington got their hands on them. Especially considering those that ended up at Durham didn't appear to have any of the issues Ashington have apparently had.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 9:33 am)Kuyoyo wrote Or maybe Ashington just need to get their engineering staff in order - ironic that the issues with the 59 plates only became major when Ashington got their hands on them. Especially considering those that ended up at Durham didn't appear to have any of the issues Ashington have apparently had.

In fairness, it's not just Ashington which is having problems Redcar / Whitby is just as bad. They've got a Streetlite on the 95/96 today, even known they've got 5 Solo's. Not sure what 2 are doing at Redcar atm though mind, assuming they've had issues and are being kept local.

It appears 2859 at Walkergate broke down the other day aswell.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 9:33 am)Kuyoyo wrote Or maybe Ashington just need to get their engineering staff in order - ironic that the issues with the 59 plates only became major when Ashington got their hands on them. Especially considering those that ended up at Durham didn't appear to have any of the issues Ashington have apparently had.

Are you suggesting that the engineering staff at Ashington are not capable of doing their jobs?
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 10:09 am)Storx wrote In fairness, it's not just Ashington which is having problems Redcar / Whitby is just as bad. They've got a Streetlite on the 95/96 today, even known they've got 5 Solo's. Not sure what 2 are doing at Redcar atm though mind, assuming they've had issues and are being kept local.

It appears 2859 at Walkergate broke down the other day aswell.

Streetlite swapped for a decker. 7404 is now on the 95
The solos might be 2862 which hasn't tracked since the 10th of July 
And 2863 which was out supposedly first thing this morning but broke down on the X3 
2860 is on the 62 
2866 has tracked since Saturday afternoon. 

Feel as though Arriva has been forgotten about within the north east. 
Only 2 sets of new buses and cascades of older examples from other depots. 
Could it get any worse
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 1:50 pm)Ryland wrote Streetlite swapped for a decker. 7404 is now on the 95
The solos might be 2862 which hasn't tracked since the 10th of July 
And 2863 which was out supposedly first thing this morning but broke down on the X3 
2860 is on the 62 
2866 has tracked since Saturday afternoon. 

Feel as though Arriva has been forgotten about within the north east. 
Only 2 sets of new buses and cascades of older examples from other depots. 
Could it get any worse

Aye can't disagree, mind the North East is one of the better fleets. You should see the state of the Southern fleets, especially down in Kent. Riddled with Darts and all sorts of junk. They've recently had their brand new buses took off them altogether aswell.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 9:29 am)Storx wrote They're all as bad as each other, they just need to order another batch of Enviro 200 MMC's (or something else) - not sure how many is actually needed and get shot of them. The 08 plate is the most reliable at Ashington ironically, 2854 and 2856 and being much worse. 2856 seems to be banned from the 57/57A for some reason which considering it's the reason it's there for is a problem.

2856 runs a tad warm. 

(31 Jul 2023, 9:33 am)Kuyoyo wrote Or maybe Ashington just need to get their engineering staff in order - ironic that the issues with the 59 plates only became major when Ashington got their hands on them. Especially considering those that ended up at Durham didn't appear to have any of the issues Ashington have apparently had.

I mean, aren't issues more likely to become major when you're asking a 13 year old minibus to complete a relatively demanding interurban route compared to it trundling around Darlington? 

They're also being used on said route 7 days a week, from start until end of service, and being driven by the newest drivers (who I imagine are more likely to report potential issues, being fresh out of the training school, requiring the bus to be checked by engineering and taken out of service).
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 9:33 am)Kuyoyo wrote Or maybe Ashington just need to get their engineering staff in order - ironic that the issues with the 59 plates only became major when Ashington got their hands on them. Especially considering those that ended up at Durham didn't appear to have any of the issues Ashington have apparently had.

While I don't want to comment on Ashington's engineering, I do find it noteworthy that of the solo's remaining with Arriva Durham County, the 11-plates are seemingly being withdrawn before the 59-plates which, as you say, seem to handle some pretty intensive services around Durham not just Darlington town.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 7:20 pm)mb134 wrote 2856 runs a tad warm. 


I mean, aren't issues more likely to become major when you're asking a 13 year old minibus to complete a relatively demanding interurban route compared to it trundling around Darlington? 

They're also being used on said route 7 days a week, from start until end of service, and being driven by the newest drivers (who I imagine are more likely to report potential issues, being fresh out of the training school, requiring the bus to be checked by engineering and taken out of service).

Guess that's why it's not allowed on it.

(31 Jul 2023, 9:01 pm)peter wrote While I don't want to comment on Ashington's engineering, I do find it noteworthy that of the solo's remaining with Arriva Durham County, the 11-plates are seemingly being withdrawn before the 59-plates which, as you say, seem to handle some pretty intensive services around Durham not just Darlington town.

To be fair, apart from the 57/57A/58. Durham's work isn't particular that hard, the 49/49A is pretty much just trundling along at 30 mph for most of it's route and that was mostly their allocation. It's no worse than any of the Darlington work compared to the 57/57A which has quite a few 60 mph sections and it's usually where they break. Earsdon Road, in particular, seems to be a hot spot for killing them off.

I was going to say they had a good day, the 3 working but I'd be lying and something has clearly gone wrong with 2852 with it leaving Whitley Bay 30 minutes late, then being pulled at Cramlington.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(31 Jul 2023, 9:39 pm)Storx wrote Guess that's why it's not allowed on it.


To be fair, apart from the 57/57A/58. Durham's work isn't particular that hard, the 49/49A is pretty much just trundling along at 30 mph for most of it's route and that was mostly their allocation. It's no worse than any of the Darlington work compared to the 57/57A which has quite a few 60 mph sections and it's usually where they break. Earsdon Road, in particular, seems to be a hot spot for killing them off.

I was going to say they had a good day, the 3 working but I'd be lying and something has clearly gone wrong with 2852 with it leaving Whitley Bay 30 minutes late, then being pulled at Cramlington.

The 49/49A is almost exclusively E200's now, 2834/57/61 seem to put in a good days shift on the 58.
RE: Withdrawn buses
(01 Aug 2023, 6:20 pm)peter wrote The 49/49A is almost exclusively E200's now, 2834/57/61 seem to put in a good days shift on the 58.

In fairness they're rarely on there. Hasn't been all 3 since last Wednesday.