Arriva X4
Flooding in East Cleveland prevented this service going passed Saltburn. Waited for ages in Runswick Bay( thank god for the pub and my Mrs). No Twitter announcements from Arriva, or announcements from their website.
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(05 Aug 2023, 6:06 pm)tyresmoke wrote Yes they were unable to access Saltburn, Carlin How, Loftus & Easington due to flooding for most of the day. They were diverting between Saltburn Cricket Club & Mickleby via Skelton, Lingdale and the A171. The 5s were terminating at Brotton for most of the day too. Don’t know how Stagecoach’s 1/2 got on but I imagine they didn’t fair too well either!
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(05 Aug 2023, 6:33 pm)Economic505 wrote The barman in Runswick showed me footage of flooding in Lofus. After thst I realised, I wasn’t going to Sandsend. Walked where I had too, drank where I could.. Love Runswick.
(05 Aug 2023, 7:20 pm)Andreos1 wrote Awful comms.
The road in Loftus just South of the market place has lifted due to the water too.
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(05 Aug 2023, 7:22 pm)tyresmoke wrote Yes yet another set of temporary lights in Loftus which I think makes 3 sets in half a mile now
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(05 Aug 2023, 6:01 pm)Economic505 wrote Flooding in East Cleveland prevented this service going passed Saltburn. Waited for ages in Runswick Bay( thank god for the pub and my Mrs). No Twitter announcements from Arriva, or announcements from their website.
(11 Aug 2023, 8:04 am)Storx wrote I know it's generally bad practice, but I'd be tempted to delibrately split the registration at Loftus so the destination is
X4: Loftus for Whitby
or
X4: Loftus for Middlesbrough
I can guarantee there's numerous people who get on at both ends because it says Middlesbrough / Whitby when it's not the quickest route as it's more frequent rather than using the X93/X94 who don't know any better.
(11 Aug 2023, 5:08 pm)col87 wrote Would it not be better to get rid of the Loftus to Redcar section and go back to just terminating at Loftus instead.
(12 Aug 2023, 8:12 am)tvd wrote Not really, it's well used by people coming to and from the Whitby end by people boarding before Loftus. In a way it's makes a nice change to have a service that has issues because it is so heavily used!
Once the summer ends it will get better anyway, but I can't help thinking that if they did something with the Whitby town services next year it could ease the pressure.
Years ago there were several Whitby town routes, but whilst tourism has increased massively and the X93's and X4 (256,X56,5 coast route before that) have had frequency increases, the town routes have been cut back. Surely there's potential improvements to be made there.
(12 Aug 2023, 9:35 am)RobinHood wrote I guess Arriva decided that whilst three buses per hour was justified, the frequency of the 5 beyond Guisborough was more important than Cargo Fleet Lane?
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(12 Aug 2023, 1:01 pm)tyresmoke wrote They’re supposed to be combine with the X93 from Guisborough to provide an every 15 mins frequency. Which is great if you live near an X93 stop, but if you don’t…
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(12 Aug 2023, 2:58 pm)Storx wrote Hopeless ain't it.
The 5, 5A, 8 and 9 all need looked at imo. I'm not going to try and suggest what's done with them but they badly need to get to the 3 corridors (Ormseby Road, Cargo Fleet Lane and Greenway) to the same frequency and try and combine them together as one core corridor between Middlesborough / North Ormseby / Pallister Park.
They all all jump on top of each other, buses running at the same time doing the same corridor then gaps. It's a right mess.
Some horrid timetabling below for example:
4.28, 4.31, 4.32, 4.46 in particular is just a waste of resources.
(12 Aug 2023, 4:58 pm)RobinHood wrote The Saturday timetable isn't a great example, as the 8 is a lower frequency but the 9 is the usual 20 minutes. I'm sure the 8/9 are at least co-ordinated Monday to Friday between Middlesbrough and Morrisons 5/10/5 headway.
The frequencies of all the individual services is precisely correlated to the demand in each, not the common frequency. For example, the 8 is much stronger than the 9, which is why it has double the number of buses per hour for most of the week.