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Go North East State Of The Fleet

Go North East State Of The Fleet

RE: State Of The Fleet
(18 Aug 2023, 8:45 pm)mb134 wrote I'd think it'd definitely have some sort of impact. 

Weren't they being built around a year before they went into administration, so prime time for when all money was being pumped out of the business and corners likely being cut?

Interesting to note that the 67 Plate Streetlites and 17 Plate Streetlites at Darlington and Washington/Percy Main respectively seem awfully unreliable considering their age aswell.

Not sure how true it is but someone mentioned on here Darlington want rid of there's and they all do similar work really and they're never out beyond 6pm with either Pulsar's doing the work which are twice the age or E200 MMC's dropping in.
RE: State Of The Fleet
I’ve only had the displeasure of driving a saloon version of the streetsh!te but almost everyone I’ve come across seems to universally hate them. Cheap, shuddering, unreliable heaps, even from relatively new. Makes a versa look appealing.

12hr day is a short day for a service bus. Probably more to the point I think the days of A and B services are long gone, reactive more than preventative maintenance seems to be the only thing that happens - asides from a week or two of PSV test prep each year, and even then often only test worthy issues are addressed.
RE: State Of The Fleet
(18 Aug 2023, 8:05 pm)mb134 wrote I've noticed a few posts/comments on Facebook groups from GNE drivers stating that the Angel Streetdecks are pretty poor these days.

Given they're only just coming up to 6 years old, is this a poor purchasing decision or poor maintenance?

Their reliability has went downhill since Riverside got their hands on them, the stories that I could tell about this place would probably get me the chop

(19 Aug 2023, 5:05 am)xpm wrote I’ve only had the displeasure of driving a saloon version of the streetsh!te but almost everyone I’ve come across seems to universally hate them. Cheap, shuddering, unreliable heaps, even from relatively new. Makes a versa look appealing.

12hr day is a short day for a service bus. Probably more to the point I think the days of A and B services are long gone, reactive more than preventative maintenance seems to be the only thing that happens - asides from a week or two of PSV test prep each year, and even then often only test worthy issues are addressed.

We've currently got a board on the 21 that leaves the depot at 0500 and doesn't return until 0130, well that's if the same bus last all day.
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RE: State Of The Fleet
(19 Aug 2023, 8:44 am)NL62WVW wrote Their reliability has went downhill since Riverside got their hands on them, the stories that I could tell about this place would probably get me the chop


We've currently got a board on the 21 that leaves the depot at 0500 and doesn't return until 0130, well that's if the same bus last all day.

Thats a similar thing to the X10, the first one to leave Gateshead at 4:33, doesnt get back till midnight. 

Well yesterday 6325 left the depot at say 6:15 from Riverside), did the 6:40 to newcastle, then stayed out till 23;00, then back into service from 1am till 4am.

Also when CLS shut down did Riverside gain any extra engineers?
RE: State Of The Fleet
(18 Aug 2023, 8:51 pm)Storx wrote Interesting to note that the 67 Plate Streetlites and 17 Plate Streetlites at Darlington and Washington/Percy Main respectively seem awfully unreliable considering their age aswell.

Not sure how true it is but someone mentioned on here Darlington want rid of there's and they all do similar work really and they're never out beyond 6pm with either Pulsar's doing the work which are twice the age or E200 MMC's dropping in.

Unsure why Darlington's seemingly aren't out much late anymore, seems to have only become the case since the recent service changes whereas prior it was generally either a Pulsar or a Lite on evening 5 & 7 journeys at least.

I have heard a suggestion that it was requested that Arriva no longer use the 67 Plate Lites on Darlington's Moorsbus turn with the allocation typically being formed of a Sapphire 7 spec'd Pulsar since the 2021 season, yet Redcar's turn is generally allocated a Cummins engined StreetLite.
RE: State Of The Fleet
(19 Aug 2023, 11:28 pm)Jimmi wrote Unsure why Darlington's seemingly aren't out much late anymore, seems to have only become the case since the recent service changes whereas prior it was generally either a Pulsar or a Lite on evening 5 & 7 journeys at least.

I have heard a suggestion that it was requested that Arriva no longer use the 67 Plate Lites on Darlington's Moorsbus turn with the allocation typically being formed of a Sapphire 7 spec'd Pulsar since the 2021 season, yet Redcar's turn is generally allocated a Cummins engined StreetLite.

It's certainly strange, noticed most of them aren't out today (Sunday) either so definitely some reason especially considering there's an Enviro 200 MMC running on the 7 which is inappropiate as an understatement.
RE: State Of The Fleet
(20 Aug 2023, 6:29 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Looks to be a panel replacement as the blue stripe is missing a tiny chunk

It also looks like a mix and match of Grey paint, the panel that's been replaced is darker than the panel with the Go North East Logo on and the front right light is a lighter shade of grey as well.
RE: State Of The Fleet
(20 Aug 2023, 8:10 pm)nova347 wrote It also looks like a mix and match of Grey paint, the panel that's been replaced is darker than the panel with the Go North East Logo on and the front right light is a lighter shade of grey as well.

Has it actually being painted or is that not just the new metal panel?
State Of The Fleet
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Appears the Versas have been deemed unsafe in some way with every single journey on the 2s dropped.


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RE: State Of The Fleet
(02 Sep 2023, 8:45 am)pbjd wrote [Image: 7d1922fcb42ab7b70eea2db1c17a3ddf.jpg]

Appears the Versas have been deemed unsafe in some way with every single journey on the 2s dropped.


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It could be an error as it says we expect the following services TO RUN....( It would have said NOT TO RUN)
State Of The Fleet
(02 Sep 2023, 9:01 am)Retro Nero wrote It could be an error as it says we expect the following services TO RUN....


I highly doubt they’re going to post on the website they expect the timetable to operate. Even more so when every other service listed says it won’t operate, and then the fact that the majority of trips on the 2s have failed to operate.


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RE: State Of The Fleet
(03 Sep 2023, 7:07 pm)citaro5284 wrote I think all companies are suffering the same.

Photo by A Tyldsley taken this afternoon

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Difference being that one doesn't appear to have been freshly branded for the launch of an entire network...
RE: State Of The Fleet
5475 has a rattling fire door, wasnt comfortable ride, i was almost violently sick, i dunno if it was harsh braking the heat, or a mix of both, the bus wasnt even late thats the thing, and the roads werent that busy, so why the harsh braking is anyones guess
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RE: State Of The Fleet
(04 Sep 2023, 12:01 am)V514DFT wrote 5475 has a rattling fire door, wasnt comfortable ride, i was almost violently sick, i dunno if it was harsh braking the heat, or a mix of both, the bus wasnt even late thats the thing, and the roads werent that busy, so why the harsh braking is anyones guess

That fire door has been rattling since at least April when I was last on it.
RE: State Of The Fleet
(03 Sep 2023, 8:26 pm)Andreos1 wrote Brand new brand, and patched up on it's launch day?

Saw a one kicking around Whitley Bay yesterday, you can see in the photo but up close the old Orbit logo is really visible.

I'd have thought they'd have made more of an effort with it if they've gone to trouble of branding
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RE: State Of The Fleet
(04 Sep 2023, 8:42 am)Ambassador wrote Saw a one kicking around Whitley Bay yesterday, you can see in the photo but up close the old Orbit logo is really visible.

I'd have thought they'd have made more of an effort with it if they've gone to trouble of branding

Not much they can do short of rubbing it down and repainting it, and I can only imagine the outrage on here if they did that!

I'm going to guess they use a single stage paint rather than a separate paint and lacquer so there's less they can do in terms of polishing it back.
RE: State Of The Fleet
(04 Sep 2023, 12:01 am)V514DFT wrote 5475 has a rattling fire door, wasnt comfortable ride, i was almost violently sick, i dunno if it was harsh braking the heat, or a mix of both, the bus wasnt even late thats the thing, and the roads werent that busy, so why the harsh braking is anyones guess
The whole Streetlite fleet has had this problem since day one. I'm not sure why they weren't ever corrected as a warranty job, because surely they shouldn't make such a racket by design.
(04 Sep 2023, 8:42 am)Ambassador wrote Saw a one kicking around Whitley Bay yesterday, you can see in the photo but up close the old Orbit logo is really visible.

I'd have thought they'd have made more of an effort with it if they've gone to trouble of branding
Not much you can do, other than a full repaint. Doesn't look great, but it doesn't look bad either for a cost effective solution...

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RE: State Of The Fleet
(04 Sep 2023, 9:59 am)Adrian wrote The whole Streetlite fleet has had this problem since day one. I'm not sure why they weren't ever corrected as a warranty job, because surely they shouldn't make such a racket by design.

It's been a problem since 2009 as the Pulsar's at Arriva have the exact same problem, nevermind Streetlite's.

Not sure the Streetlites are the same but it's the same as the driver door panel, which was rattling when they were brand new. Remember getting them when they first came to Blyth and thinking jesus these are cheap shite rattling like that already.
RE: State Of The Fleet
(04 Sep 2023, 9:59 am)Adrian wrote The whole Streetlite fleet has had this problem since day one. I'm not sure why they weren't ever corrected as a warranty job, because surely they shouldn't make such a racket by design.

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Clearly it's a fixable problem given GNE have fixed it on some of their Streetlites, although they seem to have given up on doing any more