The logo itself doesn't look too bad, but the placing on the side is awful. Would look nicer above the cab window.

(19 Aug 2023, 6:46 pm)Iamtheone8483748 wrote The logo itself doesn't look too bad, but the placing on the side is awful. Would look nicer above the cab window.

Yeah I like the new logo. I also prefer the side logo to be located above the drivers window, but I think some of the advert frames are too far forward to leave enough space for the logo.

I like the new logal on the left, but on the front it looks weird

(18 Aug 2023, 5:03 pm)Chris 1 wrote Would they not cost in terms of repaint, re-trim and whatever else they have done?  Also, would there not be a cost associated with having 6 (?) vehicles sat around with no real role?  I'd have thought it would be best practice to secure the work and then get the vehicles, rather than the other way round?

Nothing has been done to them yet by the look of the photos, so no cost incurred! 

There isn't an unlimited supply of buses from Go Ahead London, it depends on contract renewals - perhaps GNE were advised that if they needed buses in the next few months, they needed to take these now.

There are still a lot of Scania Omnidekka in the fleet approaching 20 years old.

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(18 Aug 2023, 6:44 pm)Storx wrote Not sure about that mind, those buses have a value and I can't see GoAhead London just giving them away. They might not have a value on the accounts but that doesn't mean that some budgets haven't been passed around to fund the replacements in London, from GoNorthEast's budget, since they're gaining something.

Something with no value sold for £2k is £2k profit for GoAhead London which balances out the new bus depreciation partially.

I read on here a few months back that Go Ahead now deal with surplus vehicles centrally.

So I assume that they are offered to other Group companies such as GNE first, before they are offered for sale outside the group. 
Internal transfers would surely be at book value, otherwise there is a lot of unnecessary time going to be spent by accountants moving money around for little gain.

(20 Aug 2023, 7:47 am)busmanT wrote I read on here a few months back that Go Ahead now deal with surplus vehicles centrally.

So I assume that they are offered to other Group companies such as GNE first, before they are offered for sale outside the group. 
Internal transfers would surely be at book value, otherwise there is a lot of unnecessary time going to be spent by accountants moving money around for little gain.

Aye I read that, wonder if they're might be some, more for the London side rather than GNE. As arguably if you 'give away' the buses from London then they're going to take a hit and understate their profit and loss.

Wonder if on paper, they might 'Sell' the buses to somewhere who then 'Sell or give away' the buses to GoNorthEast to balance it out.

Mind interesting to note the £63m impairment for GoNorthEast because it's in a dire state and they have questions whether it can ever make a profit in 2022 in the Go-Ahead Holding Limited and is the only regional company that's performing well below pre-Covid.

https://twitter.com/SamLarke/status/1693...71712?s=20, this is how you properly refurbish the bus, you wouldn't believe this bus is 19 year old bus

(21 Aug 2023, 11:22 pm)Unber43 wrote https://twitter.com/SamLarke/status/1693...71712?s=20, this is how you properly refurbish the bus, you wouldn't believe this bus is 19 year old bus

Has it been facelifted?

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Yeah it went to Reading Buses, https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjf-southsea/27018711434, and then moved onto Lynx

It used to have a Gemini 1 front. Transdev did something similar with their Geminis and Eclipses.

3 of the DOEs (6968/69/71) have gone on loan to EYMS according to Steven Knight Media on X (Twitter).

What’s the story with GNW liveried 6183? Is it back again?

Pictured here 11 months ago with old GNE logos:
https://flic.kr/p/2nM5JPZ

Pictured here 1 day ago in service to The Galleries with GNW logos:
https://flic.kr/p/2oZW6sV

Pictured today with GNW logos removed:
https://flic.kr/p/2p1iuEH

6183 and a number of sisters (mainly those still in GNW livery) went back on loan to Go North West for a few months. They are now been returned to Go North East.

(06 Sep 2023, 6:04 pm)Rapidsnap wrote 6183 and a number of sisters (mainly those still in GNW livery) went back on loan to Go North West for a few months. They are now been returned to Go North East.

Thanks, that rings a bell. 
So they belong to GNE now?

As the Volvo B9TLs recently drafted into Go North East have not yet been refurbished, even though some have been repainted, I rode 6154 instead.

This is a seemingly rare example of a batch of buses which still has blue moquette with the word Go super-imposed on it.

I wondered why I didn't see the Green Arrow E200-MMCs on route 96. Then I spotted some on Flickr helping out with the Bee Network launch.

Not deckers but ex First Streetlites in GNE base livery.
https://flic.kr/p/2p81eAQ

…the ones Dan visited recently…

https://x.com/dan3942/status/1706240116090392999?s=46&t=tPuGEygnn6BhKgNFiA4yAw


 Could the thread title be updated from deckers to vehicles, to save having a new thread for second hand saloons?

(09 Oct 2023, 8:48 am)ne14ne1 wrote Not deckers but ex First Streetlites in GNE base livery.
https://flic.kr/p/2p81eAQ

…the ones Dan visited recently…

https://x.com/dan3942/status/1706240116090392999?s=46&t=tPuGEygnn6BhKgNFiA4yAw


 Could the thread title be updated from deckers to vehicles, to save having a new thread for second hand saloons?

Looks like there are going to be at least 14 coming and if i'm right it also looks like the interiors have been refurbished looking at the photo.

(09 Oct 2023, 9:34 am)ian foster wrote Looks like there are going to be at least 14 coming and if i'm right it also looks like the interiors have been refurbished looking at the photo.

There were 17 Streetlites bought.

(09 Oct 2023, 9:40 am)54APhotography wrote There were 17 Streetlites bought.

5511 to 5527 .  Not sure which depot though!

(09 Oct 2023, 9:49 am)Retro Nero wrote 5511 to 5527 .  Not sure which depot though!

Most likely Riverside and Deptford cause apparently these are replacing the 10’ Plate Versas

(09 Oct 2023, 9:50 am)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Most likely Riverside and Deptford cause apparently these are replacing the 10’ Plate Versas

How many 10 reg Versa's are left in service? (GNE allocation fleet list hasn't been updated since May)


Hopefully they might also replace the Berries Versa's and have the 2/2A as GNE

Or use on the 33/39/39A/38B so its fully Streetlite.


Solo's from the those services, replace older solo's in the fleet.

5522 Is the first one to be done up

I for one welcome these 10 year old Streetlites, such is the build quality and comfort of the Streetlite combined with their harsh past lives and GNEs impeccable record of engineering of late

(09 Oct 2023, 12:57 pm)Ambassador wrote I for one welcome these 10 year old Streetlites, such is the build quality and comfort of the Streetlite combined with their harsh past lives and GNEs impeccable record of engineering of late

Especially if it's to replace the '10 plate Versas which are actually quite a nice bus still, they maybe getting on a bit and taking a reliability hit, but I'm not sure a 3 year newer Streetlite is much of a difference at over 10 years old.

(09 Oct 2023, 12:57 pm)Ambassador wrote I for one welcome these 10 year old Streetlites, such is the build quality and comfort of the Streetlite combined with their harsh past lives and GNEs impeccable record of engineering of late

It'll be interesting to see how knackered these are as Sheffield isn't exactly the flattest of places and hills and Streetlite's are generally a rather unfavourable mix. You just have to look at the state of Arriva's examples in Cleveland, which are newer aswell.

Not sure they'll be looking after them with pristine care knowing that they were going off lease soon either.

(09 Oct 2023, 2:59 pm)Storx wrote It'll be interesting to see how knackered these are as Sheffield isn't exactly the flattest of places and hills and Streetlite's are generally a rather unfavourable mix. You just have to look at the state of Arriva's examples in Cleveland, which are newer aswell.

Not sure they'll be looking after them with pristine care knowing that they were going off lease soon either.

Most have had new engines prior to purchase.


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(09 Oct 2023, 3:32 pm)Dan wrote Most have had new engines prior to purchase.


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Yeah that's fair, not surprised to be honest.

(09 Oct 2023, 7:17 pm)Storx wrote Yeah that's fair, not surprised to be honest.

Depending on which lessor First returned these to, there can be quite stringent terms about their condition.

If they aren’t of a standard deemed acceptable by the lessor, an agent can arrange for repairs to bring them up to an accepted standard (which could be quite favourable to the operator buying the bus!)


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Are these Newcastle CAZ compliant? May give an indication of which depot they're destined for, even if to displace something else.


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(09 Oct 2023, 7:33 pm)Tiger5105 wrote Are these Newcastle CAZ compliant? May give an indication of which depot they're destined for, even if to displace something else.


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They have all been converted to Euro 6, yes.


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Perhaps some for Consett for the 6?