(06 Dec 2023, 5:45 pm)Michael wrote Wonder when we'll find out what they've ordered, they seem to going for Volvo when buying for elsewhere in UK.

Believe the plan is to go for Yutongs.


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(06 Dec 2023, 6:48 pm)Dan wrote Believe the plan is to go for Yutongs.


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Can't say what I think of them, as I've only rode the Q3 once and it was only for a few stops so couldn't get a proper feel for them.


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I wonder if they'll be allocated to another service too, alongside the E services, as the PVR is only 10?, meaning 10 are just sitting around.

(06 Dec 2023, 4:44 pm)BusEnthusiast.com wrote I have just spotted 11776 on the 22 and looks basically the same as the *116* batch

11777 out as well on the 40. Neither buses tracking as themselves. 11776 reg is YX73 PBO, 777 is PBU.

(06 Dec 2023, 7:53 pm)N391OTY wrote 11777 out as well on the 40. Neither buses tracking as themselves. 11776 reg is YX73 PBO, 777 is PBU.

11770/YX73 OZT also out on the 63, 2008 from Callerton.


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How come the latest 400MMCs examples to arrive don’t have a blue line below the windscreen like the ones that arrived a month or so back do?

(07 Dec 2023, 7:49 pm)ne14ne1 wrote How come the latest 400MMCs examples to arrive don’t have a blue line below the windscreen like the ones that arrived a month or so back do?

Wonder that myself unless Walkergate asked them to do this batch quickly so they can get rid of the Hybrids before Christmas. This batch has been pushed out way way quicker than the last did

(07 Dec 2023, 7:52 pm)Aaron21 wrote Wonder that myself unless Walkergate asked them to do this batch quickly so they can get rid of the Hybrids before Christmas. This batch has been pushed out way way quicker than the last did

Hybrids aren’t going anywhere soon

And the repainted 16 plate examples have the blue line under the windscreen: https://flic.kr/p/2pkk9WJ

(08 Dec 2023, 5:29 am)topsweep1506 wrote Hybrids aren’t going anywhere soon

i thought the whole reason the MMCs were divided here was to get the hybrids moved on

(08 Dec 2023, 4:13 pm)toward6931 wrote i thought the whole reason the MMCs were divided here was to get the hybrids moved on

These ones aren't diverted, they were always coming here.

(08 Dec 2023, 7:09 pm)Storx wrote These ones aren't diverted, they were always coming here.

apologies if ive got my totals wrong, but there was 26 hybrids, the MMCs of which ten that were meant to be coming here plus the 14 diverted equals up to 24 new vehicles, enough to oust most of the hybrids and using the extra generous amounts of single deckers spare at walkergate to replace the last 2

(08 Dec 2023, 7:27 pm)toward6931 wrote apologies if ive got my totals wrong, but there was 26 hybrids, the MMCs of which ten that were meant to be coming here plus the 14 diverted equals up to 24 new vehicles, enough to oust most of the hybrids and using the extra generous amounts of single deckers spare at walkergate to replace the last 2

Nearly right, 14 diverted (607-620) plus ELEVEN others (770-780). 25 new vehicles as well as the ex-Wigan saloons 27817-21/23 at Walkergate. Guessing the saloons are soon to move across the Tyne.

(08 Dec 2023, 7:48 pm)N391OTY wrote Nearly right, 14 diverted (607-620) plus ELEVEN others (770-780). 25 new vehicles as well as the ex-Wigan saloons 27817-21/23 at Walkergate. Guessing the saloons are soon to move across the Tyne.

ah right, so whats happening with the hybrids then?

(08 Dec 2023, 7:27 pm)toward6931 wrote apologies if ive got my totals wrong, but there was 26 hybrids, the MMCs of which ten that were meant to be coming here plus the 14 diverted equals up to 24 new vehicles, enough to oust most of the hybrids and using the extra generous amounts of single deckers spare at walkergate to replace the last 2

Think it was just the first lot that was used to remove hybrids, appears to be from the 1 by the looks of things. Imagine these will displace singles tbh, there's 20 of them now to do arguably a PVR 5. I know there is some boards on the 22 etc which are allocated them now though.

The Enviro 300's (05 Plates) etc have to be on the chopping block, not to mention the MAN E200's which are still sticking around.

My guess these are for the 12 as it's only PVR they work for or maybe the 37/38 at a push.

(08 Dec 2023, 4:13 pm)toward6931 wrote i thought the whole reason the MMCs were divided here was to get the hybrids moved on

First 2 to be transferred out are 19179 and 19205 these should be leaving this weekend

Not sure if I missed it on here, but at least one MMC has moved to Shields.

(09 Dec 2023, 2:11 pm)deanmachine wrote Not sure if I missed it on here, but at least one MMC has moved to Shields.

There’s currently 2, 10631 (being repainted) and 10632. 10633 will most probably transfer over sometime in next week to join them

(09 Dec 2023, 5:07 am)topsweep1506 wrote First 2 to be transferred out are 19179 and 19205 these should be leaving this weekend

Hopefully to Slatyford to increase capacity, and not out of region?

(10 Dec 2023, 12:03 am)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Hopefully to Slatyford to increase capacity, and not out of region?

would make the most sense.

I been reading on stagecoach North East and stagecoach North West page there is morecambe trident at Stockton depot 18364? Is it ? true?

(10 Dec 2023, 12:52 am)glen wrote I been reading on stagecoach North East and stagecoach North West page there is morecambe trident at Stockton depot 18364? Is it ? true?

No it must be false tracking

(10 Dec 2023, 12:03 am)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Hopefully to Slatyford to increase capacity, and not out of region?

Although they are desperately needed at Slatyford, I'd doubt it considering these 2 are not Euro 6 they will need to be away from Newcastle.

Why is the 40 going to Walker fro Tuesday only:
https://bustimes.org/services/40-chapel-...es-str#map

(10 Dec 2023, 12:03 am)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Hopefully to Slatyford to increase capacity, and not out of region?

They're probably going elsewhere. I believe we're losing 19114 and 211 to elsewhere too, to be replaced by 2 MMCs.

Makes sense - they're all Euro 4 (114 I think is Euro 3 cos it doesn't take AdBlue, hence why it goes like the clappers), and it'll mean Walker and Sunderland have a full Euro 6 Decker fleet.

(10 Dec 2023, 9:19 am)BusEnthusiast.com wrote Why is the 40 going to Walker fro Tuesday only:
https://bustimes.org/services/40-chapel-...es-str#map

Boxing day only. Doesn't run to Wallsend

(10 Dec 2023, 9:35 am)F114TML wrote They're probably going elsewhere. I believe we're losing 19114 and 211 to elsewhere too, to be replaced by 2 MMCs.

Makes sense - they're all Euro 4 (114 I think is Euro 3 cos it doesn't take AdBlue, hence why it goes like the clappers), and it'll mean Walker and Sunderland have a full Euro 6 Decker fleet.

if there is something compatible coming in their places i dont mind it but any E400 is better than single decks for slatyford atm

(10 Dec 2023, 11:01 am)toward6931 wrote if there is something compatible coming in their places i dont mind it but any E400 is better than single decks for slatyford atm

There is - 11770-11780 replace the E400s being cascaded out of the region. As originally intended when the original order plan was announced.

(10 Dec 2023, 11:22 am)Kuyoyo wrote There is - 11770-11780 replace the E400s being cascaded out of the region. As originally intended when the original order plan was announced.

yes, but when slatyford is around ten double decks short its no good losing double decks, even if they held on to just 5 of them

(10 Dec 2023, 12:25 pm)toward6931 wrote yes, but when slatyford is around ten double decks short its no good losing double decks, even if they held on to just 5 of them

That's still no good if there's deckers at Slatyford that can't actually be used because they don't meet the emissions standards for the area!

If they've been using these non-compliant ones up to now it will either be because there's been an agreement due to replacements being due, which won't be extendable, or they'll have been paying the fines, which certainly isn't sustainable long term.

(10 Dec 2023, 1:24 pm)Ianthegoon wrote That's still no good if there's deckers at Slatyford that can't actually be used because they don't meet the emissions standards for the area!

If they've been using these non-compliant ones up to now it will either be because there's been an agreement due to replacements being due, which won't be extendable, or they'll have been paying the fines, which certainly isn't sustainable long term.

i was under the impression they had modifications to the exhaust systems etc so that while the engines were not compliant, emissions were