(19 Dec 2023, 7:11 pm)megansmith wrote blurry as not high quality that's poor

yeh bc i used my phone as my cameras buggered

Looks like 19114/211's replacements are 19437/438, not the MMCs first mooted.

(19 Dec 2023, 5:53 pm)Dyllan7817 wrote give me two secs and i’ll send the photo mate so it’s higher quality )

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(19 Dec 2023, 7:11 pm)megansmith wrote blurry as not high quality that's poor

That is 12079 not 19078.

Boxing day timetable that happens every year. They haven't went to Wallsend for the past decade on boxing day's. Links still available to Wallsend on Services 12 and 22.

(19 Dec 2023, 7:20 pm)F114TML wrote Looks like 19114/211's replacements are 19437/438, not the MMCs first mooted.

im unsure about which depot your on about, however ive heard from a walkergate driver that stagecoach keep changing their minds last minute about transfers. every last hybrid was apparently supposed to go to sunderland originally but  thats obviously no longer the case. what gets said and what actually happens seems to be completely different

(20 Dec 2023, 4:39 pm)lewisparker1509 wrote im unsure about which depot your on about, however ive heard from a walkergate driver that stagecoach keep changing their minds last minute about transfers. every last hybrid was apparently supposed to go to sunderland originally but  thats obviously no longer the case. what gets said and what actually happens seems to be completely different

Well 19437/438 are here (Sunderland) and in service. 211 is vor, so presumably 114 is on borrowed time - probably go in the school holidays.

18364 and 19079 want happenings to them?

(23 Dec 2023, 12:57 am)glen wrote 18364 and 19079 want happenings to them?

19079 never was, it was a hybrid number 12079 that sounded like it failed whilst on a transfer, as for the ALX400 we dont know yet

Thanks for info mate

(23 Dec 2023, 3:16 am)toward6931 wrote 19079 never was, it was a hybrid number 12079 that sounded like it failed whilst on a transfer, as for the ALX400 we dont know yet

12078 is also at Stockton now, just photographed it

(21 Dec 2023, 12:46 pm)F114TML wrote Well 19437/438 are here (Sunderland) and in service. 211 is vor, so presumably 114 is on borrowed time - probably go in the school holidays.

19434 may be for Wheatsheaf too. 19432/5 look to have gone to Slatyford.

19078 19079 both at Stockton depot are them going service or not?

(24 Dec 2023, 12:33 am)glen wrote 19078 19079 both at Stockton depot are them going service or not?

No because according to bustimes.. they both in service down South:

19078 - https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scpy-19078...2023-12-22


19079 - https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scpy-19079

(24 Dec 2023, 12:33 am)glen wrote 19078 19079 both at Stockton depot are them going service or not?

How many times do you have to be told they’re hybrids 12078/9… and no they’re transferring south


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Thanks for info mate

It looks like on bustimes it says 19179 has returned back to Walkergate I don't know if that is true and also 11771 hasn't been added to the fleet list yet which is a bit weird as I saw it a few days ago

(23 Dec 2023, 2:14 pm)54APhotography wrote 19434 may be for Wheatsheaf too. 19432/5 look to have gone to Slatyford.

19434 is apparently now at Slatyford along with 19432/435. Good thing as they’re needing double deckers.

(28 Dec 2023, 8:08 am)ReDemPTiion wrote 19434 is apparently now at Slatyford along with 19432/435. Good thing as they’re needing double deckers.

In fact from what I’ve heard 19431-19437 are heading Slatyford’s way. Confused about that as Walkergate have a lot of single deckers and need more double deckers

(28 Dec 2023, 2:14 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote In fact from what I’ve heard 19431-19437 are heading Slatyford’s way. Confused about that as Walkergate have a lot of single deckers and need more double deckers

19437/8 have already transferred to Sunderland to replace 19114/211. Would make more sense if it was 19389,19431-6 that were heading to Slatyford. Any idea what they are meant to be replacing at Slatyford?

(28 Dec 2023, 5:03 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote 19437/8 have already transferred to Sunderland to replace 19114/211. Would make more sense if it was 19389,19431-6 that were heading to Slatyford. Any idea what they are meant to be replacing at Slatyford?

I’m not too sure. Ive heard 19204 is supposed to be going I’m wondering if likes of 19379/380/1/2/3/4/5/6/8 could be heading somewhere else. Makes no sense Walkergate have the busier routes and need double deckers. Yes Slatyford need them as well but not as desperate as Walkergate. Have to wait and see what happens be nice to see Stagecoach invest in more new double deckers, majority of Slatyford’s services would benefit from them.

(12 Nov 2023, 8:56 pm)F114TML wrote There are some drivers who never use the Felling bypass unless they're the first or second bus on a morning or the last one on a night. Unless there's an incident, it's down to driver discresion, even driver preference.

Never bothered with it back when I was drivin

(28 Dec 2023, 5:03 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote 19437/8 have already transferred to Sunderland to replace 19114/211. Would make more sense if it was 19389,19431-6 that were heading to Slatyford. Any idea what they are meant to be replacing at Slatyford?

hopefully some single deckers

27508 left stockton for scrap yesterday and is now at alpha

Hi all, happy new year, apologies if the questions have been asked and answered elsewhere, but has a reason for the ALX400 at Stockton been determined yet?

i know there was speculation about being a donation to somewhere or some false assumptions about false tracking etc, i was just wondering if anything concrete had been confirmed.

Also has slatyford gained any extra double decker's after the cascade from walkergate, IE actually replaced any single decker's

36050 has finally entered service at Sunderland. On the 23 today.

(03 Jan 2024, 10:40 am)F114TML wrote 36050 has finally entered service at Sunderland. On the 23 today.

Not for long, looks like its back in the depot...

(03 Jan 2024, 12:43 am)toward6931 wrote Hi all, happy new year, apologies if the questions have been asked and answered elsewhere, but has a reason for the ALX400 at Stockton been determined yet?

i know there was speculation about being a donation to somewhere or some false assumptions about false tracking etc, i was just wondering if anything concrete had been confirmed.

Also has slatyford gained any extra double decker's after the cascade from walkergate, IE actually replaced any single decker's

18364 is now parked at Walkergate - so presumably for donation somewhere.

As for Slatyford, they have gained 19389/431-6 - but they are supposedly due to replace older examples for cascade out of the region - as per the business case for 11770-11780. There are, after all, other divisions that still have Tridents to replace in greater need of deckers.

(03 Jan 2024, 1:18 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 18364 is now parked at Walkergate - so presumably for donation somewhere.

As for Slatyford, they have gained 19389/431-6 - but they are supposedly due to replace older examples for cascade out of the region - as per the business case for 11770-11780. There are, after all, other divisions that still have Tridents to replace in greater need of deckers.

I can understand Slatyford loosing 19204 but can't see why they'd loose any of the 58 plate deckers. Would seem slightly pointless replacing them with E400s of the same age.

(03 Jan 2024, 7:50 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote I can understand Slatyford loosing 19204 but can't see why they'd loose any of the 58 plate deckers. Would seem slightly pointless replacing them with E400s of the same age.

This is why I asked the question, 

I could understand as part of cascading SNE getting rid of the last of the 2007 E400s to areas still running tridents, but when slatyford is realistically short of probably ten double deckers on its busiest routes which I think could harm it's business, as I personally know some commuters who now decide to lift share because they were Sick of being crammed on the single deckers turning up.

bearing in mind Stockport are meant to be gaining around 70 I think brand new electric deckers which could easily displace around 50 of Manchester's 2008 E400s to areas needing replacements for ALX400s, and Oxford is meant to be receiving 40 themselves allowing around 30 diesel vehicle's to be cascaded.