(03 Apr 2024, 5:41 pm)Ryland wrote Random question
1433 and 1449 are still both branded amazing 63 and 8. With stockton degrading a couple of there frequenta will redcar do the same with these two.

Also any news on 1438 is due to come back into service

Yes they should all be getting done!


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(03 Apr 2024, 5:41 pm)Ryland wrote Random question
1433 and 1449 are still both branded amazing 63 and 8. With stockton degrading a couple of there frequenta will redcar do the same with these two.

Also any news on 1438 is due to come back into service

When they get time, I'm sure they will do them. Personally I don't see the point in doing it unless they are going to get a full repaint and interior rework to the new Journey Mark. It could also be a hint they may be getting transferred in the future but I would doubt it.

Apparently 1438 was meant to return a week or 2 ago but still not seen as of yet. Also 4711 has yet to return since January. Redcar are slowly recovering still but there is still missing services happening.

(04 Apr 2024, 7:12 pm)Mike_98 wrote When they get time, I'm sure they will do them. Personally I don't see the point in doing it unless they are going to get a full repaint and interior rework to the new Journey Mark. It could also be a hint they may be getting transferred in the future but I would doubt it.

Apparently 1438 was meant to return a week or 2 ago but still not seen as of yet. Also 4711 has yet to return since January. Redcar are slowly recovering still but there is still missing services happening.

There’s several buses not tracking properly… 4713, 4719 at least in recent days!
1438 was at DTbus in Brandon and seen around the Durham area today, possibly heading home?


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(04 Apr 2024, 9:18 pm)tyresmoke wrote There’s several buses not tracking properly… 4713, 4719 at least in recent days!
1438 was at DTbus in Brandon and seen around the Durham area today, possibly heading home?


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It will be good to see it back. Also I got to say 1436 since return looks great. I know it also had some work done but it almost looks brand new. Good to see Redcars fleet getting up to quality standards once again.

Well I imagine if a lot of people that were travelling to Whitby and Scarborough from Middlesbrough today won't be happy. 3 Single Deckers serving the X93 today including one Temsa 4723 and another 2 single decks serving the X94. Shocking for a weekend. Does anyone know what problems Redcars B9's suffer because they seem to be out in service for around 4 days then sit out for like 3 days?

(06 Apr 2024, 3:55 pm)Mike_98 wrote Well I imagine if a lot of people that were travelling to Whitby and Scarborough from Middlesbrough today won't be happy. 3 Single Deckers serving the X93 today including one Temsa 4723 and another 2 single decks serving the X94. Shocking for a weekend. Does anyone know what problems Redcars B9's suffer because they seem to be out in service for around 4 days then sit out for like 3 days?

And with added train strikes too today doesn't help matters

(06 Apr 2024, 3:55 pm)Mike_98 wrote Well I imagine if a lot of people that were travelling to Whitby and Scarborough from Middlesbrough today won't be happy. 3 Single Deckers serving the X93 today including one Temsa 4723 and another 2 single decks serving the X94. Shocking for a weekend. Does anyone know what problems Redcars B9's suffer because they seem to be out in service for around 4 days then sit out for like 3 days?

Two deckers covering on P&R today, as both the Gemini's are currently off the road for inspection defects overnight, which is not something that can be foreseen.

1 of the double deckers is still in Ashington and two of the B9s are still off for long term reasons.

They are doing everything they can with the vehicles they have available.

(06 Apr 2024, 4:32 pm)RobinHood wrote Two deckers covering on P&R today, as both the Gemini's are currently off the road for inspection defects overnight, which is not something that can be foreseen.

1 of the double deckers is still in Ashington and two of the B9s are still off for long term reasons.

They are doing everything they can with the vehicles they have available.

Yeh true. However, I would personally cut off some 63's and put the drivers in single deckers in tandem with another to have 2 single deckers on the same trip so that they have double decker capacity.

Also which decker is at Ashington?

(06 Apr 2024, 3:55 pm)Mike_98 wrote Well I imagine if a lot of people that were travelling to Whitby and Scarborough from Middlesbrough today won't be happy. 3 Single Deckers serving the X93 today including one Temsa 4723 and another 2 single decks serving the X94. Shocking for a weekend. Does anyone know what problems Redcars B9's suffer because they seem to be out in service for around 4 days then sit out for like 3 days?

 Redcar and whitby are doing everything they can to keep sevice moving  there's no more than their can do

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(06 Apr 2024, 5:33 pm)Mike_98 wrote Yeh true. However, I would personally cut off some 63's and put the drivers in single deckers in tandem with another to have 2 single deckers on the same trip so that they have double decker capacity.

Also which decker is at Ashington?

We're waiting for the transfer of 7581

(06 Apr 2024, 5:33 pm)Mike_98 wrote Yeh true. However, I would personally cut off some 63's and put the drivers in single deckers in tandem with another to have 2 single deckers on the same trip so that they have double decker capacity.

Also which decker is at Ashington?

Disagree with that mind, the 63 is one of Arriva's flagship routes, having a 30 minute service is complete unacceptable to bail out the X93 (again).

(06 Apr 2024, 5:47 pm)Storx wrote Disagree with that mind, the 63 is one of Arriva's flagship routes, having a 30 minute service is complete unacceptable to bail out the X93 (again).

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(06 Apr 2024, 5:47 pm)Storx wrote Disagree with that mind, the 63 is one of Arriva's flagship routes, having a 30 minute service is complete unacceptable to bail out the X93 (again).

Should scrap the 64A  and just let the 64  do both routes  as I see the 64A pointless

(06 Apr 2024, 6:25 pm)Mark66t wrote

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Should scrap the 64A  and just let the 64  do both routes  as I see the 64A pointless

To be honest I'm surprised the 62 still exists personally since it got curtailed at Redcar, the X2/X3 seem to be really struggling, could easily send them via the 62 route out of Redcar and along Trunk Road, Grangetown being omitted.

South Bank and Normanby Road probably deserve/need the 15 minute service.

(06 Apr 2024, 6:45 pm)Storx wrote To be honest I'm surprised the 62 still exists personally since it got curtailed at Redcar, the X2/X3 seem to be really struggling, could easily send them via the 62 route out of Redcar and along Trunk Road, Grangetown being omitted.

South Bank and Normanby Road probably deserve/need the 15 minute 

62 seves the other side of Dormanstown its the only bus that side gets  as its a bit of a Waik for the older residents who struggle Waik long distances

(06 Apr 2024, 7:17 pm)Mark66t wrote 62 seves the other side of Dormanstown its the only bus that side gets  as its a bit of a Waik for the older residents who struggle Waik long distances

Aye I meant like send the X2/X3 via the 62 route out of Redcar, when they curtailed the 62 short and made the X2, it always felt like it was one of those routes setup to fail.

I know it's not really the thread but if they ever got the drivers and buses I'd love to see them up the X4 in frequency, whether that's every 20 minutes the full route or every 15 minutes as far as Brotton (would be the same PVR for both). It always seems packed whenever I see it, be nice to see them actually try and grow a route for once, rather than the constant cuts we see recently.

(06 Apr 2024, 6:45 pm)Storx wrote I wouldn't want anything else added to X2/3. They are meant to be express.

To be honest I'm surprised the 62 still exists personally since it got curtailed at Redcar, the X2/X3 seem to be really struggling, could easily send them via the 62 route out of Redcar and along Trunk Road, Grangetown being omitted.

South Bank and Normanby Road probably deserve/need the 15 minute service.

Humbletravel wroteI wouldn't want anything else added to X2/3. They are meant to be express.

Yeah agreed to be fair, it wasn't a suggestion. Just more surprised they haven't done it tbh especially when they scrapped the Sunday service and evening services completely.

I can comform 1438 is back at Redcar depot

7424 Seems to be back and tracking on the 62. I know the ALX’s are actually still sat in Redcar Depot. Surprised they haven’t gone yet.

(10 Apr 2024, 9:59 am)Mike_98 wrote 7424 Seems to be back and tracking on the 62. I know the ALX’s are actually still sat in Redcar Depot. Surprised they haven’t gone yet.

Missing a X4 as well due to a breakdown

(10 Apr 2024, 10:45 am)Stuartphin1639 wrote Missing a X4 as well due to a breakdown

7424 Is the only one to renter's  sevice for the 62 only I herd

4707 failed on the x4 at Redcar clock again

(10 Apr 2024, 12:03 pm)Mark66t wrote 4707 failed on the x4  at Redcar clock again

Already back out again on the X4. Seemed to just be a temp problem.

7424 on the x94 hopefully it last the day without any faults

Hi Al just a quick question the enviro 400s I saw a whitby last sat would they be mmc models can anyone shed any light on this or does another depot serve whitby. Thanks

(11 Apr 2024, 9:03 am)Mark66t wrote 7424 on the x94 hopefully it last the day without any faults

Two days in a row completed on the 94! Good going


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4713 having tracking issues photographed on the x4 later on today and sighted in marske

(13 Apr 2024, 7:05 pm)Ryland wrote 4713 having tracking issues photographed on the x4 later on today and sighted in marske

There’s quite a few that like to stop tracking during the day… 4718 and 7580 definitely!


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Is 4711 withdrawn or under repair

(14 Apr 2024, 6:42 am)Ryland wrote Is 4711 withdrawn or under repair

It's has qrite a few panels missing  so it could be withdrawn or awaiting new parts

(14 Apr 2024, 6:42 am)Ryland wrote Is 4711 withdrawn or under repair

Someones marked it as Withdrawn but I'm unsure if it is or isn't.