Dose anyone know what's going on with 1438 at redcar since its road traffic indecent last year

(31 Jan 2023, 11:56 pm)Mark66t wrote Dose anyone know what's going on with 1438 at redcar since its road traffic indecent last year

Currently away being repaired


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This has been out of service for nearly a month now. Only just realized as I wondered why I have not seen it for a while. I wonder what problems it's facing this time.

(22 Mar 2024, 5:02 pm)Mike_98 wrote This has been out of service for nearly a month now. Only just realized as I wondered why I have not seen it for a while. I wonder what problems it's facing this time.

It was repainted today at Gardiners in Spennymoor.

Probably be returned to Arriva early next week.


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(22 Mar 2024, 8:11 pm)Dan wrote It was repainted today at Gardiners in Spennymoor.

Probably be returned to Arriva early next week.


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Ohh nice. What is it being repainted into ?

(22 Mar 2024, 8:18 pm)Mike_98 wrote Ohh nice. What is it being repainted into ?

Probably the arriva journey mark

(22 Mar 2024, 8:55 pm)Mark66t wrote Probably the arriva journey mark

Most likely. Tbf it’s about time some of Redcars stuff gets re painted. Same with Stockton’s. Then again, I do love the Cotswold Stone, Interurban and Frequenta Liveries.

(22 Mar 2024, 8:18 pm)Mike_98 wrote Ohh nice. What is it being repainted into ?

Just the Frequenta base, as it was previously. Nearside accident damage repairs completed and repainted back to how it was.


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(23 Mar 2024, 6:22 am)Dan wrote Just the Frequenta base, as it was previously. Nearside accident damage repairs completed and repainted back to how it was.


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Ahh that’s good to know then

Don't know why, but according to Bus Times its being said that it's repainted into the Journey Mark Livery. Don't they only do that when they also install leather seats?

(26 Mar 2024, 3:43 pm)Mike_98 wrote Don't know why, but according to Bus Times its being said that it's repainted into the Journey Mark Livery. Don't they only do that when they also install leather seats?

1438 is still in Frequenta base livery, don’t know why people is saying it’s in new livery when it’s not


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(27 Mar 2024, 12:30 am)Spottybus wrote 1438 is still in Frequenta base livery, don’t know why people is saying it’s in new livery when it’s not

Because some make assumptions based on little to no facts, so end up with cases where they do 2 + 2 and end up with 5, often if anything has been MIA for more than a few days, then it must be getting a repaint.

(27 Mar 2024, 1:46 pm)Jimmi wrote Because some make assumptions based on little to no facts, so end up with cases where they do 2 + 2 and end up with 5, often if anything has been MIA for more than a few days, then it must be getting a repaint.

Well obviously not when it returns in the same exact livery so it hasn’t been repainted + I’m pretty sure they won’t repaint them due to their age.


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(05 May 2024, 10:40 pm)Spottybus wrote Well obviously not when it returns in the same exact livery so it hasn’t been repainted + I’m pretty sure they won’t repaint them due to their age.


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Same gose for the stockton  Frequenta pulsars  there won't get repainted due to there age Nk09 10 61 aren't getting done

I personally wouldn't be surprised to see everything repainted when iSquared take over. If they had any sense they'd ditch the Arriva name. It has absolutely no positive recognition and doesn't really have any historic meaning either.

Doing something like First done wouldn't be the worst idea with local names on a corporate design, they already have some names Midland Fox, Northumbria, North Western, Tees and District etc.

(05 May 2024, 11:31 pm)Storx wrote I personally wouldn't be surprised to see everything repainted when iSquared take over. If they had any sense they'd ditch the Arriva name. It has absolutely no positive recognition and doesn't really have any historic meaning either.

Doing something like First done wouldn't be the worst idea with local names on a corporate design, they already have some names Midland Fox, Northumbria, North Western, Tees and District etc.

I agree, I can see a big rebrand coming once the takeover is completed. There's been far too much bad press over the last 10 years for Arriva and they will keen to show that it is a new ownership group. I suspect over the next couple of years there'll be a lot of changes to come, including changes in staff higher up the pyramid.

(06 May 2024, 10:18 am)Shrek wrote I agree, I can see a big rebrand coming once the takeover is completed. There's been far too much bad press over the last 10 years for Arriva and they will keen to show that it is a new ownership group. I suspect over the next couple of years there'll be a lot of changes to come, including changes in staff higher up the pyramid.

There will be no rebrand, no livery overhaul. iSquared intend on being fairly silent owners, leaving Arriva to make their own decisions again. Something DB never allowed.

By allowing Arriva to make their own decisions again, the first signs are circa 100+ new vehicle order already gone in, deliveries starting later this year, albeit majority going to North West I believe, rather than North East. But, it's a sign that things are already moving forward again.

(06 May 2024, 4:03 pm)RobinHood wrote There will be no rebrand, no livery overhaul. iSquared intend on being fairly silent owners, leaving Arriva to make their own decisions again. Something DB never allowed.

By allowing Arriva to make their own decisions again, the first signs are circa 100+ new vehicle order already gone in, deliveries starting later this year, albeit majority going to North West I believe, rather than North East. But, it's a sign that things are already moving forward again.

I imagine the North West vehicles will go to the North East if they are getting all the new ones. TBF, I do like the Arriva Liveries plus it will save confusion for passengers.

(06 May 2024, 5:31 pm)Mike_98 wrote I imagine the North West vehicles will go to the North East if they are getting all the new ones. TBF, I do like the Arriva Liveries plus it will save confusion for passengers.

I'd be surprised if stuff ends up near up here. They'll be displacing the 09/59 Pulsar's out and anything the same age I'd believe as there's a new 15 year old limit for buses in Liverpool.

Better than what happened last year, with them swapping vehicles with other areas to get around it with Yorkshire and the Midlands getting dumped with 58 Plate Pulsars/E400's for much newer vehicles.

(06 May 2024, 4:03 pm)RobinHood wrote There will be no rebrand, no livery overhaul. iSquared intend on being fairly silent owners, leaving Arriva to make their own decisions again. Something DB never allowed.

By allowing Arriva to make their own decisions again, the first signs are circa 100+ new vehicle order already gone in, deliveries starting later this year, albeit majority going to North West I believe, rather than North East. But, it's a sign that things are already moving forward again.

I'm surprised there won't be a rebrand, the Arriva name isn't viewed well these days. But I guess the main thing they have to do is get the company moving forward again. Get it right and the rebrand isn't needed. Good to hear things are already moving in the right direction though.

(05 May 2024, 11:05 pm)Mark66t wrote Same gose for the stockton  Frequenta pulsars  there won't get repainted due to there age Nk09 10 61 aren't getting done

The 61 plates pulsars will probably get done as their aren’t that old


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(09 May 2024, 10:14 pm)Spottybus wrote The 61 plates pulsars will probably get done as their aren’t that old


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They're 13 years old they should be nearly on their way out

(09 May 2024, 10:19 pm)Unber43 wrote They're 13 years old they should be nearly on their way out

Well 1476/1477/1478 have been repainted & they are 61 plate


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(09 May 2024, 10:23 pm)Spottybus wrote Well 1476/1477/1478 have been repainted & they are 61 plate


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1476/7/8 (and 1465/6) were done before the decision was made - nothing older than 2012 was to be refurbished or repainted.

(10 May 2024, 8:03 am)Kuyoyo wrote 1476/7/8 (and 1465/6) were done before the decision was made - nothing older than 2012 was to be refurbished or repainted.

1479 is currently away for repaint, which is older than 2012?

(10 May 2024, 10:09 am)mb134 wrote 1479 is currently away for repaint, which is older than 2012?

Repaint into a special livery for the 777 however

(10 May 2024, 10:14 am)Kuyoyo wrote Repaint into a special livery for the 777 however

Probably paid for as part of the contract requirement too!


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(10 May 2024, 10:14 am)Kuyoyo wrote Repaint into a special livery for the 777 however

"nothing older than 2012 was to be refurbished or repainted." - not quite true then is it?

To be fair it's good the Cotswold Stone, Interurban and Frequenta Liveries ain't getting stripped and repainted. It's kinda a cool quirk Arriva have going on in the North East. Would be kind of bland and boring just seeing Journey Mark everywhere. Stagecoach on the other hand, have done the opposite and re painted the older vehicles in the 'Local Scheme' but kept new MMC's in Beachball. If both operators just had one livery across their fleets, it would be kinda dull.

(09 May 2024, 10:14 pm)Spottybus wrote The 61 plates pulsars will probably get done as their aren’t that old


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 No there not there not doring NK61 obviously u haven't listened to people above