PB0002717/208 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Red Hall Estate given service number 11 effective from 18-May-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/219 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Peterlee given service number 21 effective from 18-May-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/291 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Hurworth and Trees Park Village given service number 12/12A/12a effective from 18-May-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/301 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Stillington given service number 6 effective from 30-Mar-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/317 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stockton High Street and Yarm Willey Flatts given service number 7/7A effective from 10-Mar-2014. To amend Route.

PB0002717/321 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Kingsmead given service number 17/17A/17b effective from 10-Mar-2014. To amend Route.

(25 Mar 2014, 5:45 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/208 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Red Hall Estate given service number 11 effective from 18-May-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/219 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Peterlee given service number 21 effective from 18-May-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/291 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Hurworth and Trees Park Village given service number 12/12A/12a effective from 18-May-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

I think these are definitely just gonna be bus stop changes in the Town Centre, the 2, 4, 5/5a and 7 are suppose to be changing too.

(23 Mar 2014, 4:45 pm)VolvoMarkII wrote Timetable amendments only so I'm told. The Bus Registration website lists the "change type" incorrectly very often, so the alleged timetable and route amendments may not be correct.

Apparently there are also amends to the 11, 12 and 21 from the same date.

Where are the Centros usually (1923/1924) at Stockton?

(25 Mar 2014, 11:13 pm)Tom wrote Where are the Centros usually (1923/1924) at Stockton?

usually worked on usually pulsar services 9,15,27 and 29, but can be found on 7.

(25 Mar 2014, 11:13 pm)Tom wrote Where are the Centros usually (1923/1924) at Stockton?

1923s not out today (broke down on 27s yesterday) but 1924 is on 7s... 10 past the hour from Stockton

Today's bizarre news story is the repaint of reserve mini Dart 1711.... Don't ask me why but Jesmond have done it. Also appears they've painted the doors and window surrounds black like a Pulsar...!

(26 Mar 2014, 4:24 pm)tyresmoke wrote Today's bizarre news story is the repaint of reserve mini Dart 1711.... Don't ask me why but Jesmond have done it. Also appears they've painted the doors and window surrounds black like a Pulsar...!

Oh dear, what a waste of paint. Is it even used much at Stockton?

(26 Mar 2014, 4:26 pm)Tom wrote Oh dear, what a waste of paint. Is it even used much at Stockton?

It's at Redcar but has been out of use for the last month or so.

What's the March change to the 7 and 17 - reverting to the Riverside road for 7s and 17As?

(26 Mar 2014, 4:49 pm)Roland Pratt wrote What's the March change to the 7 and 17 - reverting to the Riverside road for 7s and 17As?

Yeah will be, we routed via the Riverside for two weeks then notices went up on Monday saying we had to go back to using the High St, then notices again this morning saying TC had given us the go ahead to use Riverside so back to using that....

(26 Mar 2014, 5:00 pm)tyresmoke wrote Yeah will be, we routed via the Riverside for two weeks then notices went up on Monday saying we had to go back to using the High St, then notices again this morning saying TC had given us the go ahead to use Riverside so back to using that....

Are they registered as alternative routes now then or do they have to go via Riverside?

(26 Mar 2014, 5:50 pm)Roland Pratt wrote Are they registered as alternative routes now then or do they have to go via Riverside?

Not sure officially but I would imagine an alternative route rather than a permanent diversion. Its in the interests of reliability so they don't have to go both ways up the High St. The temporary lights at Maxwells Corner take at least 4 minutes to get through both ways, never mind the rest of it...

(26 Mar 2014, 9:30 am)tyresmoke wrote 1923s not out today (broke down on 27s yesterday) but 1924 is on 7s... 10 past the hour from Stockton

1923 is out, it left Middlesbrough on Service 28 around 20 minutes ago.

(26 Mar 2014, 6:12 pm)VolvoMarkII wrote 1923 is out, it left Middlesbrough on Service 28 around 20 minutes ago.

That's a 9 board, must have been a changeover then, as it certainly wasn't allocated this morning. Pulsar 1460 ended up on 28's whereas I had it on X1 this morning, replaced by 1491 on the X1.

Reliabily informed that 1711 will now return to Redcar-Dormanstown and is to be allocated to the X93 boards.

(26 Mar 2014, 9:03 pm)robisdave wrote Reliabily informed that 1711 will now return to Redcar-Dormanstown and is to be allocated to the X93 boards.

Yawn.

(26 Mar 2014, 9:03 pm)robisdave wrote Reliabily informed that 1711 will now return to Redcar-Dormanstown and is to be allocated to the X93 boards.

Yeah - I can't see them paying money to fit it with a tachograph when all V-reg and W-reg MPDs have to be gone before the end of the year but it's your fantasy

On the subject of the X93, the B7TL trial has officially begun today with one of the pair (likely to be 7485) spotted this afternoon on the service.

Being serious - couldn't resist the 1711 thing - I'm hoping the latest trial works and be interesting to see the new peak season timetable. Until then.

(26 Mar 2014, 10:07 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Yeah - I can't see them paying money to fit it with a tachograph when all V-reg and W-reg MPDs have to be gone before the end of the year but it's your fantasy

On the subject of the X93, the B7TL trial has officially begun today with one of the pair (likely to be 7485) spotted this afternoon on the service.

Sure was 7485...
7487 is under prep at Blyth but unsure where it will be allocated yet.

It's looking as though.the decision to route the X4/4 through to Whitby is going to prove to be a wise move? Was on a trip, only from Redcar mind, y'day and it was packed! Only downside was it was operating a15 mins late and, whilst I've not looked (closely) at the timings, hope those concerned haven't been that mean with the running times.

(26 Mar 2014, 9:03 pm)robisdave wrote Reliabily informed that 1711 will now return to Redcar-Dormanstown and is to be allocated to the X93 boards.

Haha. Wouldn't be surprised. More comfortable than 1757 anyway.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/teesclev2014

A link to an ANE survey regarding recent changes to services in the East Cleveland area has been put online.

Nice to see a company wanting to know what customers think, rather than deciding on behalf of customers.

(27 Mar 2014, 1:47 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/teesclev2014

A link to an ANE survey regarding recent changes to services in the East Cleveland area has been put online.

Nice to see a company wanting to know what customers think, rather than deciding on behalf of customers.

Isn't that what Go North East call a 'customer consultation' carried out before each set of major network changes?

(27 Mar 2014, 1:57 pm)Dan wrote Isn't that what Go North East call a 'customer consultation' carried out before each set of major network changes?

The Teesside and East Cleveland Changes were consulted on last year in regards to the changes (but not how Go North East did it, rather than 'these are our plans' more 'where do you most travel/routes you mainly use') and this is a 'what do you think of what we did/how can we improve the services further' one, ahead of the next planned change on Sunday 20th July (the day the 'Sapphire' upgrade comes into effect on the 5/5a, X3/X3a and X4/4, although as I understand it not the date the Streetlites enter service)

(27 Mar 2014, 2:01 pm)Kuyoyo wrote The Teesside and East Cleveland Changes were consulted on last year in regards to the changes (but not how Go North East did it, rather than 'these are our plans' more 'where do you most travel/routes you mainly use') and this is a 'what do you think of what we did/how can we improve the services further' one, ahead of the next planned change on Sunday 20th July (the day the 'Sapphire' upgrade comes into effect on the 5/5a, X3/X3a and X4/4, although as I understand it not the date the Streetlites enter service)

Are the 5/5a, X3/X3a and X4/4 getting Streetlite Max or Pulsars?

(27 Mar 2014, 2:01 pm)Kuyoyo wrote The Teesside and East Cleveland Changes were consulted on last year in regards to the changes (but not how Go North East did it, rather than 'these are our plans' more 'where do you most travel/routes you mainly use') and this is a 'what do you think of what we did/how can we improve the services further' one, ahead of the next planned change on Sunday 20th July (the day the 'Sapphire' upgrade comes into effect on the 5/5a, X3/X3a and X4/4, although as I understand it not the date the Streetlites enter service)

Because that's a lot better, isn't it? I think as a passenger I would prefer to have the same knowledge as the company - at least with Go North East I know what they have planned and I know that if the majority of people think it's a good idea, the changes outlined in the leaflet will go ahead...
How do I know what the changes are if I just outline the regularities of my travel arrangements on services which are proposed to change?

(27 Mar 2014, 2:02 pm)Tom wrote Are the 5/5a, X3/X3a and X4/4 getting Streetlite Max or Pulsars?

Streetlite Max. Only depot getting Pulsars (the last examples) is Jesmond for the 306.

(27 Mar 2014, 2:01 pm)Kuyoyo wrote The Teesside and East Cleveland Changes were consulted on last year in regards to the changes (but not how Go North East did it, rather than 'these are our plans' more 'where do you most travel/routes you mainly use') and this is a 'what do you think of what we did/how can we improve the services further' one, ahead of the next planned change on Sunday 20th July (the day the 'Sapphire' upgrade comes into effect on the 5/5a, X3/X3a and X4/4, although as I understand it not the date the Streetlites enter service)

So Arriva excels itself again. Launches the Sapphire services before the buses are ready! (And even knowing 4 months beforehand they're not going to be ready!!)

So given that the Sapphire upgrade for services 5/5a etc is scheduled for 20th July how's this gonna work when we don't have the new fleets?