(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke wrote Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

Any news on these?

(05 May 2014, 9:47 pm)Tom wrote Any news on these?

be intresting to see who gets the 88

(06 May 2014, 7:14 pm)danpick wrote be intresting to see who gets the 88

Think GNE would keep the 88, 96/96A

As for the rest not sure

(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke wrote Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

When will we find out who has won these contracts?

be interesting if GNE won none of them


Thanks, Michael

(18 May 2014, 2:07 pm)Michael wrote When will we find out who has won these contracts?

be interesting if GNE won none of them


Thanks, Michael

Very soon I'd imagine, baring in mind the 56 days notice required to VOSA.

Here are my predictions:

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland - Go North East
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank - Compass
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields - Go North East
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill - Arriva (evening)
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars - Go North East
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn - Arriva
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate - GCT
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services - Go North East

(18 May 2014, 3:45 pm)Tom wrote Here are my predictions:

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland - Go North East
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank - Compass
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields - Go North East
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill - Arriva (evening)
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars - Go North East
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn - Arriva
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate - GCT
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services - Go North East

Wouldnt mind seen arriva down at seaburn.

I think the 37/73 will be shared contact like now.

I think GNE will keep the 88 and 96/96A

Stagecoach for the 135/136

Rest im not sure

(18 May 2014, 3:56 pm)Michael wrote Wouldnt mind seen arriva down at seaburn.

I think the 37/73 will be shared contact like now.

I think GNE will keep the 88 and 96/96A

Stagecoach for the 135/136

Rest im not sure

If the 37/73 are shared then who will they be shared with?

(18 May 2014, 3:57 pm)Tom wrote If the 37/73 are shared then who will they be shared with?

Compass and a 2nd independant company.

(18 May 2014, 3:45 pm)Tom wrote Here are my predictions:

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland - Go North East
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank - Compass
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields - Go North East
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill - Arriva (evening)
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars - Go North East
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn - Arriva
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate - GCT
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services - Go North East

I personally think that the 38C will be operated by Go North East, providing they can see a profit in doing so. I'm sure a SimpliCity Versa could be arranged for low running costs.
I was just discussing this with someone else earlier - take a look at this photo. Compass' fleet isn't exactly immaculate, and although I haven't seen a non-compliant vehicle (i.e. van) on the service yet, it doesn't present neither Go North East nor Nexus in a good light when a bus as scruffy as that turns up.

Also think that the 96/96A will stay with Go North East, purely because they've operated it fairly well and can put in a cheap bid with their Euro 5 Versas.

Not sure about the 515/558. I think an independent could get it, rather than Arriva.

Think Arriva are more likely to get the R3/R4/R6 - don't think GNE have any resources to accommodate these, but Arriva might?

(18 May 2014, 4:02 pm)Dan wrote I personally think that the 38C will be operated by Go North East, providing they can see a profit in doing so. I'm sure a SimpliCity Versa could be arranged for low running costs.

Also think that the 96/96A will stay with Go North East, purely because they've operated it fairly well and can put in a cheap bid with their Euro 5 Versas.

Not sure about the 515/558. I think an independent could get it, rather than Arriva.

Think Arriva are more likely to get the R3/R4/R6 - don't think GNE have any resources to accommodate these, but Arriva might?

Arriva probably do have resources yeah.
Do you think GNE will purchase more Solos for Nexus Bus work in the coming years?

(18 May 2014, 4:03 pm)Tom wrote Arriva probably do have resources yeah.
Do you think GNE will purchase more Solos for Nexus Bus work in the coming years?

It's more down to winning the work than buying speculatively.

We also have the 794 up for tender from 31st August, they've put both runs into one contract too.

(18 May 2014, 4:07 pm)tyresmoke wrote It's more down to winning the work than buying speculatively.

We also have the 794 up for tender from 31st August, they've put both runs into one contract too.

Yeah I suppose. We'll soon find out will operate the ones from July though.
Do you reckon Weardale have a chance?

(18 May 2014, 4:07 pm)tyresmoke wrote We also have the 794 up for tender from 31st August, they've put both runs into one contract too.

Aline currently do the 794 dont they?

(18 May 2014, 4:11 pm)citaro5284 wrote Aline currently do the 794 dont they?

Indeed they do:

Compass have cancelled the 38, 515/558 and 73. Looks like they won't be operating these

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PB1074031/12 - COMPASS COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LTD T/A COMPASS COMMUNITY TRANSPORT, UNITS 11 - 12, SANDMERE ROAD, LEECHMERE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, SUNDERLAND, SR2 9TP

Cancellation Accepted: Operating between WASHINGTON CONCORDE BUS STATION and SUNDERLAND PARK LANE INTERCHANGE given service number 73 effective from 27-Jul-2014

(29 May 2014, 9:58 am)AIG20 wrote Interesting... I wonder which operator will gain these services?

Not 100% but

38C - GNE
515/558 - Not sure - is the PVR 2?
73 - GNE - not sure if they would run both as they require a NEXUS Solo SR on the 37 to! - if not i would like to see GNE/Arriva run it together!

Best thing is to keep checking VOSA over the next few days

(29 May 2014, 10:03 am)Michael wrote Not 100% but

38C - GNE
515/558 - Not sure - is the PVR 2?
73 - GNE - not sure if they would run both as they require a NEXUS Solo SR on the 37 to! - if not i would like to see GNE/Arriva run it together!

Best thing is to keep checking VOSA over the next few days

Unless GNE scrap the 37 and run the whole 73 route?

(29 May 2014, 10:03 am)Michael wrote Not 100% but

38C - GNE
515/558 - Not sure - is the PVR 2?
73 - GNE - not sure if they would run both as they require a NEXUS Solo SR on the 37 to! - if not i would like to see GNE/Arriva run it together!

Best thing is to keep checking VOSA over the next few days

The 37/73 were combined into one tender with a PVR of 3. The 515/558 is a PVR of 2 (again as one contract this time round) - I would be looking for Jim Hughes to be making an entrance into service work soon...

(29 May 2014, 10:07 am)tyresmoke wrote The 37/73 were combined into one tender with a PVR of 3. The 515/558 is a PVR of 2 (again as one contract this time round) - I would be looking for Jim Hughes to be making an entrance into service work soon...

I thought they only had coaches, my bad!

(29 May 2014, 10:07 am)tyresmoke wrote The 37/73 were combined into one tender with a PVR of 3. The 515/558 is a PVR of 2 (again as one contract this time round) - I would be looking for Jim Hughes to be making an entrance into service work soon...

That would be brilliant. - Only contracted work?

As a reminder...

(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke wrote Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

(29 May 2014, 10:13 am)Tom wrote That would be brilliant. - Only contracted work?

I guess it's a possibility they may win some contracted work that TGM Classic lose... Given the relationship between both companies.

(29 May 2014, 10:10 am)Michael wrote I thought they only had coaches, my bad!

They do yes, however Jim Hughes is owned by Ian Shipley and his son, who are also the directors at Classic. Work has been moved out of Classic to Arriva and coaches have been transferred out to TGM Heathrow so I think we can all see what is going on there.

(29 May 2014, 10:33 am)tyresmoke wrote I guess it's a possibility they may win some contracted work that TGM Classic lose... Given the relationship between both companies.


They do yes, however Jim Hughes is owned by Ian Shipley and his son, who are also the directors at Classic. Work has been moved out of Classic to Arriva and coaches have been transferred out to TGM Heathrow so I think we can all see what is going on there.

Thanks for the info, =)

Would be nice for a new independent company to get contract work.

(29 May 2014, 10:33 am)tyresmoke wrote I guess it's a possibility they may win some contracted work that TGM Classic lose... Given the relationship between both companies.


They do yes, however Jim Hughes is owned by Ian Shipley and his son, who are also the directors at Classic. Work has been moved out of Classic to Arriva and coaches have been transferred out to TGM Heathrow so I think we can all see what is going on there.

I get the relationship between Classic and Jim Hughes. But if work is being tendered out by Nexus (coupled with all the rules that apply), how would the relationship benefit Jim Hughes?

It isn't as if Nexus could say 'Jim Hughes wasn't the lowest bid, but because of their relationship with Classic, we will give them the contract'.

I can only assume the bid writing techniques and costing exercises Classic have used, may be shared.

Didn't realise the Classic coach work was being shifted south.
Not too happy about that.

(29 May 2014, 10:59 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote I get the relationship between Classic and Jim Hughes. But if work is being tendered out by Nexus (coupled with all the rules that apply), how would the relationship benefit Jim Hughes?

It isn't as if Nexus could say 'Jim Hughes wasn't the lowest bid, but because of their relationship with Classic, we will give them the contract'.

I can only assume the bid writing techniques and costing exercises Classic have used, may be shared.

Didn't realise the Classic coach work was being shifted south.
Not too happy about that.

Jim Hughes will know Classic's commercially sensitive information which has allowed them to win those contracts in the first place. Puts them at advantage over other operators.

(29 May 2014, 11:02 am)Dan wrote Jim Hughes will know Classic's commercially sensitive information which has allowed them to win those contracts in the first place. Puts them at advantage over other operators.

It potentially will do, but the problem with that is Classic will have different overheads and dead mileage compared to Jim Hughes, meaning the financials will be out of whack.

Using ticket data, coupled with the bid writing and costing expertise will give them a head start - but there will still be a lot of work to do.

(29 May 2014, 10:59 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote I get the relationship between Classic and Jim Hughes. But if work is being tendered out by Nexus (coupled with all the rules that apply), how would the relationship benefit Jim Hughes?

It isn't as if Nexus could say 'Jim Hughes wasn't the lowest bid, but because of their relationship with Classic, we will give them the contract'.

I can only assume the bid writing techniques and costing exercises Classic have used, may be shared.

Didn't realise the Classic coach work was being shifted south.
Not too happy about that.

All that has happened is the coaches have gone south, not the work.

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Via:
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Finish Point: TEAM VALLEY TRADING ESTATE, GATESHEAD
Via:
Service Number: 941
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Effective Date: 27-JUL-2014
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Registration Accepted
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Via:
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Other Details: MONDAY TO SATURDAY HOURLY

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Starting Point: HEWORTH INTERCHANGE, GATESHEAD
Finish Point: DOVEDALE ROAD, SEABURN
Via:
Service Number: 558
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 27-JUL-2014
Other Details: MONDAY TO SATURDAY HOURLY

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Via:
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Via:
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They won some decent contracts there!