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Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes

Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes

RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(22 Jan 2015, 1:12 pm)John_R wrote Although, I agree that the council is useless and hope they get voted out. Personally I'm glad there isn't a bus station at Feethams as it isn't really close to the main shops and would make the bus a less convenient option for many people.  Also I'm sure many including my myself would prefer the cinema as it would save a trip to Teesside Park. Also they're just about to start building a multi storey car park at Beaumont St/Feethams which although is probably needed, it will undoubtedly be an eyesore.

Also its quite unlikely someone will be killed and given its now nearly 10 years since pedestrianisation was introduced, there has not been anyone seriously injured in that time - pretty much every town centre in the North East has a worse record, so it has done quite well considering its inevitable that there will be some collisions due to people just crossing without looking.

However they do need to move the stops back to how they were with North Road service outside Burger King.

To be honest the screens will benefit more people than a service to Brafferton or another outlying village.

It doesn't matter if the bus station isn't right next to the shops. The buses could still pick up at the shops stops but would layover in the bus station instead of on the stands. As was always the case.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
From Sunday 15th February, we're making some changes to Services 7, 15, 63 and 81/81A in Teesside.

These changes are primiarly to improve puinctuality and come from feedback recieved from our passengers.

Service 7
Service 7 will see a revised timetable, but buses will still operate up to every 10 minutes, Monday to Satuday daytimes.

Service 15
Most Service 15 journeys will be revised to depart from Stand 24 in Stockton High Street around 2 minutes earlier than they currently do now. There are no other changes to route or timetable.

Service 63
Most Service 63 journeys are retimed around Redcar Centre, to improve punctuality.

Service 81/81A
We've made some changes to both the morning and early evening timetable in order to improve punctuality.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
PB0002032/168 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted: Operating between Morpeth and Newbiggin given service number 35/35A effective from 22-Mar-2015. To amend Timetable.


PB0002032/452 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Whitley Bay given service number 306 effective from 22-Mar-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(23 Jan 2015, 10:50 am)Jimmi wrote From Sunday 15th February, we're making some changes to Services 7, 15, 63 and 81/81A in Teesside.

These changes are primiarly to improve puinctuality and come from feedback recieved from our passengers.

Service 7
Service 7 will see a revised timetable, but buses will still operate up to every 10 minutes, Monday to Satuday daytimes.

Service 15
Most Service 15 journeys will be revised to depart from Stand 24 in Stockton High Street around 2 minutes earlier than they currently do now. There are no other changes to route or timetable.

Service 63
Most Service 63 journeys are retimed around Redcar Centre, to improve punctuality.

Service 81/81A
We've made some changes to both the morning and early evening timetable in order to improve punctuality.

Presumably because of congestion thanks to Stagecoach putting their 36/37/38 on the 15 stand.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(23 Jan 2015, 1:04 pm)Cock Robin wrote Presumably because of congestion thanks to Stagecoach putting their 36/37/38 on the 15 stand.

Not actually - to give more layover time at the Castlegate end of the High Street for driver changeovers. Samething with the 7.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
One thing I have heard is that the 306/308 will have a timetable change on a Sunday, and that they will interwork (which will obviously see Jesmond working 308s and Blyth 306s)

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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
I wonder whether or not Jesmond will just use 7445, 7446 and an Ex London Gemini or ALX400 on a Sunday with Blyth supplying the other 4 or 5 vehicles. A Streetlite would struggle with demand on the 308 on a Sunday and even the 306 can get very packed towards Tynemouth on a Sunday too.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
PB0002717/363 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 29-Mar-2015.

PB0002717/386 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 23-May-2015.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(28 Jan 2015, 4:45 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/363 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 29-Mar-2015.

PB0002717/386 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 23-May-2015.

Anywhere to put 6 nearly new B9TL's then? X18 anyone? Tongue

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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(28 Jan 2015, 6:18 pm)tyresmoke wrote Anywhere to put 6 nearly new B9TL's then? X18 anyone?
Out of interest (to anyone who can answer), why is there two registrations for the X93 a week apart?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(28 Jan 2015, 6:25 pm)Dan wrote Out of interest (to anyone who can answer), why is there two registrations for the X93 a week apart?

A week? You need your eyes testing.
The 23rd May was to be the summer extra journeys registered on a separate registration, now cancelled of course.

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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(28 Jan 2015, 6:35 pm)tyresmoke wrote A week? You need your eyes testing.
The 23rd May was to be the summer extra journeys registered on a separate registration, now cancelled of course.

Oops! Misread 'Mar' for 'May'!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(28 Jan 2015, 4:45 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/363 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 29-Mar-2015.
(28 Jan 2015, 4:45 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/386 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 23-May-2015.

Would this of been a new timetable, or are they scrapping the service?

EDIT: Whoops! All of the post turned bold!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(28 Jan 2015, 6:49 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote Would this of been a new timetable, or are they scrapping the service?

EDIT: Whoops! All of the post turned bold!
No, it's the summer registrations as Scott said.

I doubt they would scrap the service when they have just bought B9TLs for it!!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(28 Jan 2015, 4:45 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/363 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 29-Mar-2015.

PB0002717/386 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Scarborough given service number X93 effective from 23-May-2015.

Looks good for an opportunity to submit split registrations for the route to come up with a solution that does not require tachograph working.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Revised 7/7a 15 and 63 timetables are now available to be viewed on the Arriva website. Main changes below

Service 7/7a Stockton to Yarm

The first 4 weekday journeys from Stockton (0628 0648 0708 0728) are retimed to leave Yarm Town Hall 2 minutes earlier towards Willey Flatts, journeys until 0938 retimed to leave Stockton High Street North 2 minutes earlier than present but same time through to Yarm after which journeys will leave Stockton High Street North 3 minutes later than present but 5 minutes later until the 1613 (presently 1610) after which they run 1 minute later than present until the end of service.

Service 15 Roseworth/North Tees Hospital to Thornaby
Journeys during the daytime hours will leave Stand 24 at the Northern End of Stockton High Street 2 minutes earlier than present, while journeys between 1900 and 2100 leave 1 minutes earlier.

Service 63 Redcar to Middlesbrough
Journeys now arrive in Redcar 2 minutes earlier than present, no other changes
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Interesting looking X93 registration on VOSA today.

PB0002717/387 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Middlesbrough
Finish Point: Guisborough
Via:
Service Number: X93
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 29-MAR-2015
Other Details: Operates daily, up to every 60 minutes off peak & up to every 30 minutes in peak
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(31 Jan 2015, 11:58 am)Cock Robin wrote Surely they're not going to start changing the number mid route just after getting new branded buses and publicity?!

It won't be re-numbered, it's just split three times to avoid the need to follow tachograph/EU rules. All that will change is the destination.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Didn't someone comment saying that Arriva doesn't have the same number when splitting the route into 2?, if arriva splitting the X93 then their should of ran the X12 (old X1) as X2 the full route with the split at Durham.

RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(31 Jan 2015, 12:17 pm)cbma06 wrote Didn't someone comment saying that Arriva doesn't have the same number when splitting the route into 2?, if arriva splitting the X93 then their should of ran the X12 (old X1) as X2 the full route with the split at Durham.

An update on this after a conversation with people in the know, the number will remain as X93 across all three parts of the route (splits in Guisborough & Whitby). This comes after confirmation was gained from the authorities over what is and isn't acceptable apparently. I too thought it was a strange time to split it, just after the buses had been fitted with tachographs - but this is why and it makes sense to me. GNE and Stagecoach have got away with it for years of course!
I wonder if we will see any other longer routes renumbered to match on all parts. The 685 would be one that sticks out for me!

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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(31 Jan 2015, 9:48 pm)tyresmoke wrote An update on this after a conversation with people in the know, the number will remain as X93 across all three parts of the route (splits in Guisborough & Whitby). This comes after confirmation was gained from the authorities over what is and isn't acceptable apparently. I too thought it was a strange time to split it, just after the buses had been fitted with tachographs - but this is why and it makes sense to me. GNE and Stagecoach have got away with it for years of course!
I wonder if we will see any other longer routes renumbered to match on all parts. The 685 would be one that sticks out for me!

Have not got away with it, more like reading the rules and the interpretation of them and what the law actually states.

Is there any other Arriva companies do split registrations?
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(31 Jan 2015, 9:52 pm)citaro5284 wrote Have not got away with it, more like reading the rules and the interpretation of them and what the law actually states.

Is there any other Arriva companies do split registrations?

Arriva North East has done it for a good few years now.
Found this post on Facebook - quite humorous! The digs towards Stagecarriage are unreal.

Arriva Cymru used to do it on their 5 & X5 services (Llandudno - Caernarfon) and also the 11 service (Rhyl - Chester) apparently. Not sure if they still do, or if the routes have changed since they first started doing this.