(31 Jan 2015, 10:03 pm)Dan wrote Arriva North East has done it for a good few years now.
Found this post on Facebook - quite humorous! The digs towards Stagecarriage are unreal.

Arriva Cymru used to do it on their 5 & X5 services (Llandudno - Caernarfon) and also the 11 service (Rhyl - Chester) apparently. Not sure if they still do, or if the routes have changed since they first started doing this.

Ah so to put it in Scott's words....Arriva have got away with it for years as well, no need to single out GNE or Stagecoach then 

Of course it's a cheat to get around drivers hours. It may be a perfectly legal loophole, but it's a cheat all the same.

(31 Jan 2015, 10:11 pm)citaro5284 wrote Ah so to put it in Scott's words....Arriva have got away with it for years as well, no need to single out GNE or Stagecoach then 

Whey aye - operators do it up and down the country!
How long has the X1/X2 (Middlesbrough - Newcastle) been around for? Must be since 2009 at least - so they've done it since then.

Have no issues with the legal loophole myself. Driving a round trip on the X9/X10 is no different to driving for three hours on the Q1/Q2, if you ask me.

(31 Jan 2015, 10:03 pm)Dan wrote Arriva North East has done it for a good few years now.
Found this post on Facebook - quite humorous! The digs towards Stagecarriage are unreal.

Arriva Cymru used to do it on their 5 & X5 services (Llandudno - Caernarfon) and also the 11 service (Rhyl - Chester) apparently. Not sure if they still do, or if the routes have changed since they first started doing this.

Moaning about the displays and confusing people, they should see the 21/X21 with buses often displaying just "Peterlee" instead of "Peterlee for Sunderland" was shocked to see an ex demo EcoCity displaying the correct display the other day.

Ah the good old days of the Facebook page when it had the "Arriva Bod" manning the page and had some good discussion before Facebook removed the discussions section of the site and the bod disappeared.

(31 Jan 2015, 10:21 pm)Jimmi wrote Ah the good old days of the Facebook page when it had the "Arriva Bod" manning the page and had some good discussion before Facebook removed the discussions section of the site and the bod disappeared.

Aye....'Arriva Bod' works for GNE now 

What I meant was using the same service number for all parts of a service, like the 685 by Stagecoach or the X7 as a GNE example. Arriva have split service numbers for the last few years 

(31 Jan 2015, 10:39 pm)tyresmoke wrote What I meant was using the same service number for all parts of a service, like the 685 by Stagecoach or the X7 as a GNE example. Arriva have split service numbers for the last few years 

Always bewildered me why Arriva didn't bother doing that in the first place... The change in route number adds unnecessary confusion, if anything.

(31 Jan 2015, 10:45 pm)Dan wrote Always bewildered me why Arriva didn't bother doing that in the first place... The change in route number adds unnecessary confusion, if anything.

I suspect that they were uncertain of the legality, and wanted to stress the difference - which, of course, confuses the passengers.

Another thing that confuses is that Stagecoach break the 685 at Brampton whist Arriva do it at Haydon Bridge.

(31 Jan 2015, 10:48 pm)G-CPTN wrote I suspect that they were uncertain of the legality, and wanted to stress the difference - which, of course, confuses the passengers.

Another thing that confuses is that Stagecoach break the 685 at Brampton whist Arriva do it at Haydon Bridge.

Don't Stagecoach also split the 685 at Hexham.

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Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: North Shields
Finish Point: Shiremoor
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Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 08-FEB-2015
Other Details: Metro Replacement

(29 Jan 2015, 3:36 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Revised 7/7a 15 and 63 timetables are now available to be viewed on the Arriva website. Main changes below

Service 7/7a Stockton to Yarm

The first 4 weekday journeys from Stockton (0628 0648 0708 0728) are retimed to leave Yarm Town Hall 2 minutes earlier towards Willey Flatts, journeys until 0938 retimed to leave Stockton High Street North 2 minutes earlier than present but same time through to Yarm after which journeys will leave Stockton High Street North 3 minutes later than present but 5 minutes later until the 1613 (presently 1610) after which they run 1 minute later than present until the end of service.

Service 15 Roseworth/North Tees Hospital to Thornaby
Journeys during the daytime hours will leave Stand 24 at the Northern End of Stockton High Street 2 minutes earlier than present, while journeys between 1900 and 2100 leave 1 minutes earlier.

Service 63 Redcar to Middlesbrough
Journeys now arrive in Redcar 2 minutes earlier than present, no other changes

Paper timetables now available in the Travel Offices in Middlesbrough and Stockton now confirms the 81/81A changes:

Journeys retimed to run 5 minutes later than present until 1735 81A from Guisborough after which the 1735 81 from Stokesley leaves as present (but arrives in Redcar 1 minutes later than present). The 1935 81A from Hutton Gate is withdrawn. In addition, the 81A journeys at 0750 from Stokesley to Marske (replacing the 0745), 0754 (formerly 0753) from Redcar to Hutton Gate, 1748 (formerly 1739) from Marske to Hutton Gate, 1841 (formerly 1835) from Hutton Gate to Redcar and 1904 (formerly 1900) from Redcar to Hutton Gate will now operate as 81s instead.

(02 Feb 2015, 5:43 pm)Michael wrote PB0002032/492 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: North Shields
Finish Point: Shiremoor
Via:
Service Number: 900
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 08-FEB-2015
Other Details: Metro Replacement

Timetables for this and the following 2 weeks (14/15th, 21/22nd Feb Haymarket-Regent Centre) are on Nexus' site now

Arriva North East - East Middlesbrough Survey

We're always looking for ways to improve our service offering to our passengers, both existing and new, but in order to do this, we require feedback from the people who use our services.

Please take your time to answer the following questions regarding the services mentioned below. Please note, that whilst we do appreciate feedback for other services in the region, this survey will only be used to collate information regarding the services in question.

Service 9 - Middlesbrough to Overfields Estate
Service 27/27a - Middlesbrough to Netherfields

http://bit.ly/1EG8Usv
or
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/eastmbro

(04 Feb 2015, 7:20 pm)cbma06 wrote Arriva North East - East Middlesbrough Survey

We're always looking for ways to improve our service offering to our passengers, both existing and new, but in order to do this, we require feedback from the people who use our services.

Please take your time to answer the following questions regarding the services mentioned below. Please note, that whilst we do appreciate feedback for other services in the region, this survey will only be used to collate information regarding the services in question.

Service 9 - Middlesbrough to Overfields Estate
Service 27/27a - Middlesbrough to Netherfields

http://bit.ly/1EG8Usv
or
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/eastmbro

As very few people on here will actually use it, I'll sum up the proposals:

Option 1
27a increased to every 10 minutes and renumbered 8
27 withdrawn, Cranmore Road served by diverted 5/5a
9 increased to every 10 minutes
Combined 5 minutes frequency between Middlesbrough and Berwick Hills Morrisons on 8/9

Option 2
27 retained but reduced to every 30 minutes, 5/5a to possibly be diverted via Cranmore Road to provide 6 buses an hour along there (up from 4 an hour on 27s)
9/27a both increased to every 12 minutes to create a combined 6 minutes between Middlesbrough and Berwick Hills Morrisons

(31 Jan 2015, 10:55 pm)Jimmi wrote Don't Stagecoach also split the 685 at Hexham.

Yeah, the Stagecoach 685 is split at Hexham and Brampton. It could be to do with the journey, or journeys (I'm not sure?), which operate via Gilsland and the villages? I suppose the diversion could add distance to the route that the Arriva 685 doesn't operate down?

Details of the changes in Newcastle and Northumberland from the 22nd of March have now been posted online: http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/La...rch-20152/

(04 Feb 2015, 8:42 pm)peter wrote Details of the changes in Newcastle and Northumberland from the 22nd of March have now been posted online: http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/La...rch-20152/

Very interesting, wonder what the extra vehicle for the 306/8 will be?

(04 Feb 2015, 9:03 pm)mb134 wrote Very interesting, wonder what the extra vehicle for the 306/8 will be?

On a Sunday - this might be the suggested shared interworking of the route between Jesmond and Blyth, which would be interesting in terms of driving hours...........

(04 Feb 2015, 9:05 pm)Kuyoyo wrote On a Sunday - this might be the suggested shared interworking of the route between Jesmond and Blyth, which would be interesting in terms of driving hours...........

Ah didn't see that(/got confused), thought that was a general thing, was starting to think they'd got an extra hybrid Gemini or Streetlite from somewhere!
 

(04 Feb 2015, 9:03 pm)mb134 wrote Very interesting, wonder what the extra vehicle for the 306/8 will be?

Believe it'll be split 4 vehicles from each Blyth and Jesmond, interworking the 306/308 on a Sunday daytime. The extra Jesmond one should drop out later in the day (when I assume they'll stop interworking)

New X21/22 timetable available online, will keep an eye out for printed ones.

http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/up...arch-2015/

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Service Number: X93
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Via:
Service Number: P2
Service Type: Limited Stop
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Are the 5/5A not doing as well as expected? Why put them down Cranmore Road? Slows them down even more, and they've already lost a limited stop sevice except at peak times.

(05 Feb 2015, 6:12 pm)Cock Robin wrote Are the 5/5A not doing as well as expected? Why put them down Cranmore Road? Slows them down even more, and they've already lost a limited stop sevice except at peak times.

Need something to replace the 27 down Cranmore Road. I'm far from convinced it needs serving (most people get on/off at Brambles Farm end anyway!) but hey oh that's just my opinion.

(05 Feb 2015, 9:09 pm)tyresmoke wrote Need something to replace the 27 down Cranmore Road. I'm far from convinced it needs serving (most people get on/off at Brambles Farm end anyway!) but hey oh that's just my opinion.

Why replace the 27?!

(05 Feb 2015, 2:11 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/up...arch-2015/

"adding a bus to our fleet" to improve the Sunday 306/308?!

(06 Feb 2015, 5:39 pm)Cock Robin wrote "adding a bus to our fleet" to improve the Sunday 306/308?!

Think they mean increasing the combined Sunday PVR by 1 vehicle...?
I'm just a little confused why they've gone for the split allocation between depots - couldn't all of the workings been based out of Jesmond or Blyth instead of both combined? Probably better to go for the latter, provide the extra capacity which I think DaveyBowyer said is needed and have 2 spares.

(06 Feb 2015, 5:41 pm)Dan wrote Think they mean increasing the combined Sunday PVR by 1 vehicle...?
I'm just a little confused why they've gone for the split allocation between depots - couldn't all of the workings been based out of Jesmond or Blyth instead of both combined? Probably better to go for the latter, provide the extra capacity which I think DaveyBowyer said is needed and have 2 spares.

Its probably split to avoid a huge amount of Sunday work in one depot, which would be disproportionate to the rota.

(06 Feb 2015, 5:37 pm)Cock Robin wrote Why replace the 27?!

Too much wasted resource to operate what is effectively a dupe of the 27A. 27A every 10 mins would be far better received.