(21 Aug 2015, 3:32 pm)Tom wrote Cheers for the info, the bus still should have really operated though, as it could have departed Benton Asda only 15 minutes late, then made up it's time like the delayed 15:02 but did (was 17 minutes late, but as you mentioned got down to 12 minutes late). But I guess the drivers driving limits are more important if that was the case. There were some very unhappy people on that bus though, complaining about the 17, and also saying apparently the 17 will drop to hourly in October they were saying but I highly doubt that?

As we regularly hear on this forum, running a bus operation is neither easy nor simple. We need to look at the bigger picture and realise not everything is black and white.

I don't get involved with where and when driver changeovers take place as it's not my department, but as I suggested previously, it's entirely possible that the control room could have opted to regulate that service on the basis that the driver was close to exceeding his/her driving hours. The supervisors' hands would have been tied in this instance, if this was the case. Bus operators have to make sure there's enough lee-way in duty boards to allow drivers to be late without exceeding driving hours, but they also have to make the duties efficient to avoid wasting resources.

This, I feel, is the disadvantage to cross-town and cross-city services. Whilst popular in years gone by, a large number of bus operators have moved away from this model, and now favour simple streamlined frequencies between the different 'hubs' across their network, allowing passengers to transfer from service to service as appropriate. These services face problems of their own, as a small delay can lead to quite a big impact with services ultimately running in tandem, which is why some members of the forum have suggested that they prefer the old cross-city service model. I recently read quite a cynical article based on Arriva's new "Frequenta" brand, which branded the services under this identity (and those intended to fall under this identity in the future) as some of the most unreliable, given that they regularly bunch up and run in pairs.

In Sunderland, most customers seemingly prefer cross-city services. Stagecoach's services in the area are very successful, but peak-times are a nightmare and regularly see buses running in excess of 20 minutes late. Over in Newcastle, Stanley and Durham, Go North East has recently undertaken a customer consultation which asked for feedback on the company's plans to split the services at Stanley, in an attempt to overcome delays. The company has yet to reveal the results of this customer consultation on the public domain, but I'd expect that most would approve of the "hub" model if it was going to provide a more reliable service.

A timetable has to be realistic and achievable; simply put, if it isn't, changes must be made accordingly. If Go North East's AVL data proves that there are issues with timekeeping on service 17, perhaps the next step to improve it could be by splitting the service.