(08 Oct 2013, 7:43 am)fozzovmurton wrote Why could Ellis Short not go for a proven manager, he may not have been able to get them, they may not be interested, but why could he not have at least sounded out the likes of Roberto Mancini, Marco Van Basten, Jurgen Klinsmann or Frank Rijkaard, yes compo might have to be paid for some but it would show he meant business.

At this rate, Sunderland will never establish themselves as a top Premier League team

Without being disrespectful...there is no chance that any of those would go to Sunderland. They simply aren't a big enough club.

Newcastle have the pull of being a big name and CL and other European experience, Sunderland are not a massive brand across the world. 40,000 a week doesn't automatically make you a big club.

And being realistic, I think the best Sunderland can hope for in the current climate is a regular midtable finish.