(03 Sep 2021, 12:16 am)Ds1197 wrote There do, unlike Sunderland berries they got installed before they went back in service

Well, if that's the case then I'd happily take one of the B5Hs over a Streetlite! They're so much nicer.

I hope they don't remove the hybrid system on any more of them as it's my favourite part of using them! I find it quite fun trying to guess when the diesel engine is going to kick in.

(03 Sep 2021, 1:06 am)Keeiajs wrote Well tbh, I do understand looking at the 33/38/39/39A, but really the 39/39A are over capacity. But really the 33/38 normally have around 10 people in which is sometimes more than the X45/46 Streetlites have on.

But I do understand not all routes are profitable but that doesn't mean you can cascade 12-14 year old buses on other routes which are quite busy. I understand if a route loses money put maybe older buses on and I totally get that. However that doesn't mean that a area can be neglected I understand Peterlee it has one set of buses, that isn't expected for a upgrade for a while. But Deptford, 60/20/61/56/9 the busiest routes out of Sunderland (I think), Yes the 20 buses is 5 years old, they don't need nothing yet, 56 just been refurbed, I would have moved those buses to the 50. And replace the Drifter 60 with newer bsues, and put 5369-5372 on 61 with a new livery. 

But what I don't agree with is focusing of select routes and upgrading them every 4 years, when they really don't need to. if I was in sunderland and I lost a 17' plate bus, and got a 11' I would be unhappy. And if a area got new buses every 3-4 years and the buses which are now "free" be moved to a different area with less investment I would be angry, imo to GNE Sunderland is second class to all the newcastle services. And I don't really think people can disagree with that.

This is why there needs to be less focus on the age of vehicles! If a 10 year old vehicle is more comfortable, reliable and of an equivalent or higher specification than a 4 year old vehicle, that would definitely be considered an upgrade!

Don't forget, even the likes of the New Routemaster are getting on for 10 years old now! I'm sure you wouldn't complain if you got a refurbished one of those!

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