(05 Aug 2024, 7:34 am)Storx wrote It's not acceptable for a full grown bloke to be kicking and punching kids either though. From what I see the kids come into it, after the fight has started. Self defence isn't feral. I know there's been trouble all over the country, but we can't go down the rabbit hole where every time someone is saying something to someone non-white, they're instantly facists/part of the EDL.
Self-defense is an appropriate (and reasonable) use of force, in order to defend yourself or others.
10+ punching and kicking (including in the head) is never going to be self-defense, not by any stretch of the imagination.
Nobody is suggesting we're going down that route, but what you describe as trouble, has been widespread racially motivated and Islamophobic violence.
On this particular incident, you've suggested it being racially motivated twice now. I'm not privvy to the context, so I'll call out what I can see, not what I can't or don't know.