(28 Aug 2014, 9:47 pm)56everyday wrote I think the overhaul that companies such as Northern have done to the Pacers is quite good, however I am desperate for a train which won't squeak like mad over Gateshead when arriving or departing Central Station from or to Sunderland etc
For want of a better phrase, you can't really polish a turd.
The National was a great bus - it was designed for the roads, not the rails and as a result, there is only so much that can be done to improve the 142.
No idea if the other classes in the series let as much water in as the 142.