(29 Aug 2014, 8:10 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote For want of a better phrase, you can't really polish a turd.
The National was a great bus - it was designed for the roads, not the rails and as a result, there is only so much that can be done to improve the 142.
No idea if the other classes in the series let as much water in as the 142.
Like I say, I've heard that Northern Rail's main complaints come from the fact that the Pacers are abominations and should be stripped off the rails and scrapped like the steam engines, then have a few Deltics and A4s replace them........