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JoshP   27 Sep 2014, 8:08 pm
(27 Sep 2014, 6:29 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Think you'll find it's 4659 (and the photo doesn't seem to be showing - see attached below)



As for 4660-4, think you'll be waiting a while for them to be done................

That is vile. 
mb134   28 Sep 2014, 10:15 am
(27 Sep 2014, 6:29 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Think you'll find it's 4659 (and the photo doesn't seem to be showing - see attached below)

Will these operate the 418 from Berwick to Alnwick on Sundays as well? 
S813 FVK   28 Sep 2014, 11:16 am
(24 Sep 2014, 6:05 pm)Tom wrote Is the new 62/64 commercial?

Didnt Arriva operate their own 42 then Scarlet Band joined in? Arriva have always had a bus service that serves Brasside so my guess would be that it is commercial.
palatine3833   28 Sep 2014, 11:52 am
Streetlites 1577/8 are now both at Belmont depot although I beliieve Cummins have been called to look at 1577.

Dart 1308 was parked outside the pits minus ticket machine with Durham destinations in it, perhaps this has been sent rather than 1305?
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Philly rf   28 Sep 2014, 5:12 pm
Nk05 gwd nk05 gwv where in ashington depot
L469 YVK   28 Sep 2014, 6:16 pm
(28 Sep 2014, 11:52 am)palatine3833 wrote Streetlites 1577/8 are now both at Belmont depot although I beliieve Cummins have been called to look at 1577.

Dart 1308 was parked outside the pits minus ticket machine with Durham destinations in it, perhaps this has been sent rather than 1305?
Jimmi   28 Sep 2014, 6:22 pm
Nearly missed the X66 to Middlesbrough because the driver pulled in at the wrong stand in Stockton this afternoon.
R852 PRG   28 Sep 2014, 7:12 pm
(27 Sep 2014, 6:29 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Think you'll find it's 4659 (and the photo doesn't seem to be showing - see attached below)



As for 4660-4, think you'll be waiting a while for them to be done................

I quite like that - don't know why. Looks like a good upgrade.
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Tom   28 Sep 2014, 7:20 pm
(28 Sep 2014, 7:12 pm)Marcus wrote I quite like that - don't know why. Looks like a good upgrade.

I think it looks horrific. I don't like the MAX livery in general.
Much prefer Sapphire.
R852 PRG   28 Sep 2014, 7:22 pm
(28 Sep 2014, 7:20 pm)Tom wrote I think it looks horrific. I don't like the MAX livery in general.
Much prefer Sapphire.

Fair enough, I'm not too keen on the MAX livery myself, but I think it doesn't look half bad on that Omni. To me, in it's base livery, it looks like an upgraded version of the corporate livery. Just my opinion, like.
Tom   28 Sep 2014, 7:25 pm
(28 Sep 2014, 7:22 pm)Marcus wrote Fair enough, I'm not too keen on the MAX livery myself, but I think it doesn't look half bad on that Omni. To me, in it's base livery, it looks like an upgraded version of the corporate livery. Just my opinion, like.

I think it looks fine on the Geminis, but nothing flash. On the Omnicities it doesn't look right, it looks absolutely vile. 
That's just my opinion too. 
JoshP   28 Sep 2014, 7:36 pm
(28 Sep 2014, 7:25 pm)Tom wrote I think it looks fine on the Geminis, but nothing flash. On the Omnicities it doesn't look right, it looks absolutely vile. 
That's just my opinion too. 

Yeah on the Gemini's and E400's it looks nice, but the face of the Omni's in the Max livery, it really is vulgar! Should have allocated Pulsars instead it would have been a nicer journey on the X66 and it would actually suit the livery better. Arriva have messed up here using Omni's and applying this vile paint job 
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S813 FVK   28 Sep 2014, 7:55 pm
Just to throw my opinion into the mix:

I quite like the MAX livery on all vehicles, nothing over the top and is quite simple and the difference between Sapphire and MAX can clearly be seen which is what im sure Arriva want.
Kuyoyo   28 Sep 2014, 7:58 pm
(28 Sep 2014, 7:36 pm)JoshP wrote Yeah on the Gemini's and E400's it looks nice, but the face of the Omni's in the Max livery, it really is vulgar! Should have allocated Pulsars instead it would have been a nicer journey on the X66 and it would actually suit the livery better. Arriva have messed up here using Omni's and applying this vile paint job 

Because there's OmniCitys free unlike Pulsars! 3 of Stockton's Pulsars (1441-3) will be getting the 'MAX' factor next year for the X1/X2. OmniCitys are also more suited to long distance work like the X15 compared to Pulsars.
Jimmi   28 Sep 2014, 8:09 pm
I don't mind the Max livery and I think the Omnicitys will look good once they get branded, might be difficult to see in the dark on a night.

Looking forward to when they are done for the X66 as some of the seats at the moment are horrendous to sit on even for only 45 minutes especially on 4644 which is my least favourite Omnicity.
Dan   28 Sep 2014, 8:12 pm
On the topic of Pulsars and refurbishments...
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Jimmi   28 Sep 2014, 8:24 pm
On the topic of Pulsars and refurbishments...
Oh dear!
Some of Arriva seat re-trims over the years have been horrific, I remember when they refurbished 4056 within 6 months they had 3 different styles of fabric on the seats and many of them were uncomfortable to sit on... And half the panels above the lights were swinging open.
Dan   29 Sep 2014, 6:59 am
(28 Sep 2014, 7:36 pm)JoshP wrote Yeah on the Gemini's and E400's it looks nice, but the face of the Omni's in the Max livery, it really is vulgar! Should have allocated Pulsars instead it would have been a nicer journey on the X66 and it would actually suit the livery better. Arriva have messed up here using Omni's and applying this vile paint job 
I think it looks better on the Geminis because of the curve on the front matching the curve of the windscreen...

They didn't bother with that curve on the front of the bus with the E400s, and I'm not particularly fond of the way they've done it. They didn't bother with the 'swoop' as they did on the Geminis and OmniCity too...

The livery on the Geminis has grown on me somewhat, but imo still lacks impact, and the colour of the vinyls should have been thought through more.
Dan   29 Sep 2014, 8:01 pm
(29 Sep 2014, 6:59 am)Dan wrote I think it looks better on the Geminis because of the curve on the front matching the curve of the windscreen...

They didn't bother with that curve on the front of the bus with the E400s, and I'm not particularly fond of the way they've done it. They didn't bother with the 'swoop' as they did on the Geminis and OmniCity too...

The livery on the Geminis has grown on me somewhat, but imo still lacks impact, and the colour of the vinyls should have been thought through more.

So have we any idea when the Enviro400s at Ashington will gain "MAX" branding for service X18? Pretty poor to have brand new vehicles going around unbranded, and I'd expect more from a brand which is supposed to achieve MAXimum impact...
Kuyoyo   29 Sep 2014, 8:03 pm
(29 Sep 2014, 8:01 pm)Dan wrote So have we any idea when the Enviro400s at Ashington will gain "MAX" branding for service X18? Pretty poor to have brand new vehicles going around unbranded, and I'd expect more from a brand which is supposed to achieve MAXimum impact...

Launch isn't until the service changes in November, so likely be round about then
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Dan   29 Sep 2014, 8:07 pm
(29 Sep 2014, 8:03 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Launch isn't until the service changes in November, so likely be round about then

Ooof..

Why launch them in November, if you're going to 'launch' them by having them out in service in mid-September?
tyresmoke   29 Sep 2014, 8:31 pm
Joint launch between the X15 and X18 I believe Dan. The X15 vehicles are starting to return from Blackburn now (4653/9 at Ashington, still awaiting the Enviros).
There was some question over whether we should include Berwick on the X18 branding or not, with it going summer only after October (funded extension through the winter withdrawn by Northumberland CC)

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Tom   29 Sep 2014, 8:45 pm
(29 Sep 2014, 8:31 pm)tyresmoke wrote Joint launch between the X15 and X18 I believe Dan. The X15 vehicles are starting to return from Blackburn now (4653/9 at Ashington, still awaiting the Enviros).
There was some question over whether we should include Berwick on the X18 branding or not, with it going summer only after October (funded extension through the winter withdrawn by Northumberland CC)

What are the route changes Scott?
passenger_10   29 Sep 2014, 10:49 pm
On Berwick Town Council's website there's a news item from the 3rd September about a "consultation" from Northumberland County Council concerning proposed changes to the X15 and X18 starting from the 9th November.

The proposals apparently include:
- On Mondays to Saturdays the X18 will no longer serve High Newton by-the-sea
-The 07:52, 12:02 and 16:02 X18s north from Alnwick will still run all the way to Berwick and back with the time saved by not serving High Newton absorbed along the coast so the buses still serve Belford at the same time each hour as the X15. The 07:03 south from Belford will still run too.
-All the other X18 journeys will be replaced by Travelsure operated 418's. These journeys would serve High Newton and Denwick, but only run as far as Belford.
-From memory the Sunday timetable is the same as it is now, but the Arriva jouneys that serve High Newton will be numbered 418 north of Alnwick, those that don't will be the X18 all the way to Berwick and back.

There are also a couple of proposed changed on the X15 to early morning and late evening services, the biggest being the last bus of the day north which currently stops at Belford will be stopping at Alnwick.

Of course things may have changed since the start of September...
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Tom   30 Sep 2014, 6:27 am
(29 Sep 2014, 10:49 pm)passenger_10 wrote On Berwick Town Council's website there's a news item from the 3rd September about a "consultation" from Northumberland County Council concerning proposed changes to the X15 and X18 starting from the 9th November.

The proposals apparently include:
- On Mondays to Saturdays the X18 will no longer serve High Newton by-the-sea
-The 07:52, 12:02 and 16:02 X18s north from Alnwick will still run all the way to Berwick and back with the time saved by not serving High Newton absorbed along the coast so the buses still serve Belford at the same time each hour as the X15. The 07:03 south from Belford will still run too.
-All the other X18 journeys will be replaced by Travelsure operated 418's. These journeys would serve High Newton and Denwick, but only run as far as Belford.
-From memory the Sunday timetable is the same as it is now, but the Arriva jouneys that serve High Newton will be numbered 418 north of Alnwick, those that don't will be the X18 all the way to Berwick and back.

There are also a couple of proposed changed on the X15 to early morning and late evening services, the biggest being the last bus of the day north which currently stops at Belford will be stopping at Alnwick.

Of course things may have changed since the start of September...

Cheers for that. Hopefully reliability will improve. 
cbma06   30 Sep 2014, 8:58 am
looks horrible the Omni's into base max livery. Are the Omni's due for repaint or something?, the max livery would be suited on the pulsars.

are the streelites for service 23 be launched on 26th October for the East Durham changes?.


Kuyoyo   30 Sep 2014, 5:03 pm
7511, 7512 and 7513 have returned from refurbishment.

Photos @ Steven Hodgson
Dan   30 Sep 2014, 5:10 pm
(30 Sep 2014, 5:03 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 7511, 7512 and 7513 have returned from refurbishment.

Photos @ Steven Hodgson

Another different style of "MAX" base livery? Really..?
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Bristol Stomper   30 Sep 2014, 5:20 pm
(28 Sep 2014, 7:36 pm)JoshP wrote Yeah on the Gemini's and E400's it looks nice, but the face of the Omni's in the Max livery, it really is vulgar! Should have allocated Pulsars instead it would have been a nicer journey on the X66 and it would actually suit the livery better. Arriva have messed up here using Omni's and applying this vile paint job 

Don't agree. Like the livery, and much prefer Omnicities to Pulsars.
Bristol Stomper   30 Sep 2014, 5:25 pm
(30 Sep 2014, 8:58 am)cbma06 wrote looks horrible the Omni's into base max livery. Are the Omni's due for repaint or something?, the max livery would be suited on the pulsars.

are the streelites for service 23 be launched on 26th October for the East Durham changes?.

Are the Omnis 'due' for a repaint? Well that's never been the criteria for Arriva repainting anything. Some of the Prestiges went their full 15 years without a repaint!
4651 etc haven't been done since new but it will be some of the batch's third time!
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