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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2015

 
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4177
19 Apr 2015, 4:17 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:07 pm)Tommy_1581 Haven't seen it today.

There's something wrong if it's still not fixed and it has indeed been out of service today. It's been at least a month now since it appeared like that, and I've frequently seen 7518 in service on the X14 while that's been on the X21/22, if it's down to the depot management, it needs to sort itself out. Below are several things I've noticed since the Sapphire launch:

No Ashington Sapphire (or MAX) vehicles have cab door stickers, unlike every other depot.

7522-8 (excluding 7524) have had only route numbers displaying on the rear display since about October?

Drivers frequently not wearing the "Sapphire" uniform, blue shirts/polo shirts are common sights in my experience. 

Vehicles going for weeks without working NSA's, 7501 must have had the "Sapphire" screen for at least a month. 

It's very rare to find a 57-reg one with working plugs, although it's rare to see one in service Wink 

There are others, but I think most have been dealt with 
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 4:17 pm #321

(19 Apr 2015, 4:07 pm)Tommy_1581 Haven't seen it today.

There's something wrong if it's still not fixed and it has indeed been out of service today. It's been at least a month now since it appeared like that, and I've frequently seen 7518 in service on the X14 while that's been on the X21/22, if it's down to the depot management, it needs to sort itself out. Below are several things I've noticed since the Sapphire launch:

No Ashington Sapphire (or MAX) vehicles have cab door stickers, unlike every other depot.

7522-8 (excluding 7524) have had only route numbers displaying on the rear display since about October?

Drivers frequently not wearing the "Sapphire" uniform, blue shirts/polo shirts are common sights in my experience. 

Vehicles going for weeks without working NSA's, 7501 must have had the "Sapphire" screen for at least a month. 

It's very rare to find a 57-reg one with working plugs, although it's rare to see one in service Wink 

There are others, but I think most have been dealt with 

5329
19 Apr 2015, 4:27 pm
7525 has been in "repaired" state for at least 2 months now

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tyresmoke
19 Apr 2015, 4:27 pm #322

7525 has been in "repaired" state for at least 2 months now


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4177
19 Apr 2015, 4:28 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:27 pm)tyresmoke 7525 has been in "repaired" state for at least 2 months now

Don't think any other depot would allow that to be the case
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 4:28 pm #323

(19 Apr 2015, 4:27 pm)tyresmoke 7525 has been in "repaired" state for at least 2 months now

Don't think any other depot would allow that to be the case

5329
19 Apr 2015, 4:29 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:28 pm)mb134 Don't think any other depot would allow that to be the case

No its not acceptable. 1557 was repaired after a bump with new panels on the side, and new fleetnames were applied within a few days of its return to service.

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tyresmoke
19 Apr 2015, 4:29 pm #324

(19 Apr 2015, 4:28 pm)mb134 Don't think any other depot would allow that to be the case

No its not acceptable. 1557 was repaired after a bump with new panels on the side, and new fleetnames were applied within a few days of its return to service.


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19 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:28 pm)mb134 Don't think any other depot would allow that to be the case

Belmont's standard specification Pulsars have had mix and match panels between the old and new corporate livery since last year - it's not just Ashington that have issues, although you could argue that it should be their utmost priority given that it's meant to be a premium brand.
Dan
19 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm #325

(19 Apr 2015, 4:28 pm)mb134 Don't think any other depot would allow that to be the case

Belmont's standard specification Pulsars have had mix and match panels between the old and new corporate livery since last year - it's not just Ashington that have issues, although you could argue that it should be their utmost priority given that it's meant to be a premium brand.

4177
19 Apr 2015, 4:34 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:29 pm)tyresmoke No its not acceptable. 1557 was repaired after a bump with new panels on the side, and new fleetnames were applied within a few days of its return to service.

I could understand if it was Monday- Saturday service all day every day, and Sundays didn't exist, meanwhile 2 of the others were off the road for that entire duration. But this is not the case, it's a 7 day week, and I know for a fact that there have been days when all of the Enviro's have been available (or at least none in the depot). 

Unless Ashington mechanics are staying true to "Sunday is the day of rest"?? Wink 
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 4:34 pm #326

(19 Apr 2015, 4:29 pm)tyresmoke No its not acceptable. 1557 was repaired after a bump with new panels on the side, and new fleetnames were applied within a few days of its return to service.

I could understand if it was Monday- Saturday service all day every day, and Sundays didn't exist, meanwhile 2 of the others were off the road for that entire duration. But this is not the case, it's a 7 day week, and I know for a fact that there have been days when all of the Enviro's have been available (or at least none in the depot). 

Unless Ashington mechanics are staying true to "Sunday is the day of rest"?? Wink 

4177
19 Apr 2015, 4:36 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm)Dan Belmont's standard specification Pulsars have had mix and match panels between the old and new corporate livery since last year - it's not just Ashington that have issues, although you could argue that it should be their utmost priority given that it's meant to be a premium brand.

The difference between the colours is very small though, is it not? Either way, I'm sure they won't have missing vinyls on said panel.  

It ruins the image of the premium brand, it looks scruffy, and as a potential passenger would you want to be getting on a bus that has clearly been in an accident? 
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 4:36 pm #327

(19 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm)Dan Belmont's standard specification Pulsars have had mix and match panels between the old and new corporate livery since last year - it's not just Ashington that have issues, although you could argue that it should be their utmost priority given that it's meant to be a premium brand.

The difference between the colours is very small though, is it not? Either way, I'm sure they won't have missing vinyls on said panel.  

It ruins the image of the premium brand, it looks scruffy, and as a potential passenger would you want to be getting on a bus that has clearly been in an accident? 

10981
19 Apr 2015, 4:37 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm)Dan Belmont's standard specification Pulsars have had mix and match panels between the old and new corporate livery since last year - it's not just Ashington that have issues, although you could argue that it should be their utmost priority given that it's meant to be a premium brand.

Was on the 6 yesterday and kept seeing 1423 I think it was and the panels below the indicator lights on both sides were the dark blue on the new corporate livery.

Also at one point 7441 had an original liveried panel at the back and 7444 had a new style liveried panel in the same place.
Jimmi
19 Apr 2015, 4:37 pm #328

(19 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm)Dan Belmont's standard specification Pulsars have had mix and match panels between the old and new corporate livery since last year - it's not just Ashington that have issues, although you could argue that it should be their utmost priority given that it's meant to be a premium brand.

Was on the 6 yesterday and kept seeing 1423 I think it was and the panels below the indicator lights on both sides were the dark blue on the new corporate livery.

Also at one point 7441 had an original liveried panel at the back and 7444 had a new style liveried panel in the same place.

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18144
19 Apr 2015, 4:38 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:37 pm)Jimmi Was on the 6 yesterday and kept seeing 1423 I think it was and the panels below the indicator lights on both sides were the dark blue on the new corporate livery.

Also at one point 7441 had an original liveried panel at the back and 7444 had a new style liveried panel in the same place.

There's a few like that at Belmont.

1467 rings a bell as being another, though I haven't gone through my photos to double check this. I think it's that one with an offside panel which has been replaced with an original livery panel - sticks out like a sore thumb.
Dan
19 Apr 2015, 4:38 pm #329

(19 Apr 2015, 4:37 pm)Jimmi Was on the 6 yesterday and kept seeing 1423 I think it was and the panels below the indicator lights on both sides were the dark blue on the new corporate livery.

Also at one point 7441 had an original liveried panel at the back and 7444 had a new style liveried panel in the same place.

There's a few like that at Belmont.

1467 rings a bell as being another, though I haven't gone through my photos to double check this. I think it's that one with an offside panel which has been replaced with an original livery panel - sticks out like a sore thumb.

5329
19 Apr 2015, 5:04 pm
1460 at Stockton has about 4 different shades of turquoise along the offside, we call it "patchwork Pulsar"

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tyresmoke
19 Apr 2015, 5:04 pm #330

1460 at Stockton has about 4 different shades of turquoise along the offside, we call it "patchwork Pulsar"


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19 Apr 2015, 5:12 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 4:34 pm)mb134 Unless Ashington mechanics are staying true to "Sunday is the day of rest"?? Wink 

Arri va va voom   Wink
omnicity4659
19 Apr 2015, 5:12 pm #331

(19 Apr 2015, 4:34 pm)mb134 Unless Ashington mechanics are staying true to "Sunday is the day of rest"?? Wink 

Arri va va voom   Wink

3564
19 Apr 2015, 6:13 pm
I think that with regards to the sheds at Ashington (57 plates), one of these two will happen:

Option 1:
- If replaced this year or very early next year, 8x ADL E400s for X21 / X22 with another 6 for the 7 if growth continues.
- 7518 sent as a spare for the 7 and 2 of the best of 7501 - 7509 kept as Ashington spares with the rest being dispersed around the country.

Option 2:
- If replaced next year, 15x ADL E400 MMCs for X21 / X22 with 1 of the best of 7501 - 7509 kept as spare alongside 7522.
- 7523 - 7528 for service 7 with 7518 acting as spare.
L469 YVK
19 Apr 2015, 6:13 pm #332

I think that with regards to the sheds at Ashington (57 plates), one of these two will happen:

Option 1:
- If replaced this year or very early next year, 8x ADL E400s for X21 / X22 with another 6 for the 7 if growth continues.
- 7518 sent as a spare for the 7 and 2 of the best of 7501 - 7509 kept as Ashington spares with the rest being dispersed around the country.

Option 2:
- If replaced next year, 15x ADL E400 MMCs for X21 / X22 with 1 of the best of 7501 - 7509 kept as spare alongside 7522.
- 7523 - 7528 for service 7 with 7518 acting as spare.

19 Apr 2015, 6:15 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 6:13 pm)DaveyBowyer I think that with regards to the sheds at Ashington (57 plates), one of these two will happen:

Option 2:
- If replaced next year, 15x ADL E400 MMCs for X21 / X22 with 1 of the best of 7501 - 7509 kept as spare alongside 7522.
- 7523 - 7528 for service 7 with 7518 acting as spare.


I would keep 7518 here as it is comfier than the 57 sheds.
omnicity4659
19 Apr 2015, 6:15 pm #333

(19 Apr 2015, 6:13 pm)DaveyBowyer I think that with regards to the sheds at Ashington (57 plates), one of these two will happen:

Option 2:
- If replaced next year, 15x ADL E400 MMCs for X21 / X22 with 1 of the best of 7501 - 7509 kept as spare alongside 7522.
- 7523 - 7528 for service 7 with 7518 acting as spare.


I would keep 7518 here as it is comfier than the 57 sheds.

4177
19 Apr 2015, 6:16 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 6:15 pm)Tommy_1581 I would keep 7518 here as it is comfier than the 57 sheds.

I'd prefer to see 7523/4 stay, the only two with everything working from what I can tell...
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 6:16 pm #334

(19 Apr 2015, 6:15 pm)Tommy_1581 I would keep 7518 here as it is comfier than the 57 sheds.

I'd prefer to see 7523/4 stay, the only two with everything working from what I can tell...

3564
19 Apr 2015, 6:42 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 6:15 pm)Tommy_1581 I would keep 7518 here as it is comfier than the 57 sheds.

It would have to be 7518 as for the sort of low bridges on the 7 that the full height versions can't handle. It wouldn't be too bad having them as a spare if the X21 / X22 was to consist of new to 18 month old vehicles.
L469 YVK
19 Apr 2015, 6:42 pm #335

(19 Apr 2015, 6:15 pm)Tommy_1581 I would keep 7518 here as it is comfier than the 57 sheds.

It would have to be 7518 as for the sort of low bridges on the 7 that the full height versions can't handle. It wouldn't be too bad having them as a spare if the X21 / X22 was to consist of new to 18 month old vehicles.

19 Apr 2015, 6:44 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 6:42 pm)DaveyBowyer It would have to be 7518 as for the sort of low bridges on the 7 that the full height versions can't handle. It wouldn't be too bad having them as a spare if the X21 / X22 was to consist of new to 18 month old vehicles.

They can have a Pulsar spare then?!
omnicity4659
19 Apr 2015, 6:44 pm #336

(19 Apr 2015, 6:42 pm)DaveyBowyer It would have to be 7518 as for the sort of low bridges on the 7 that the full height versions can't handle. It wouldn't be too bad having them as a spare if the X21 / X22 was to consist of new to 18 month old vehicles.

They can have a Pulsar spare then?!

4177
19 Apr 2015, 6:47 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 6:42 pm)DaveyBowyer It would have to be 7518 as for the sort of low bridges on the 7 that the full height versions can't handle. It wouldn't be too bad having them as a spare if the X21 / X22 was to consist of new to 18 month old vehicles.
Think they should do this:

7522-8 along with 7518 and 9 brand new E400's for the X21/22, giving 17 vehicles for a PVR of 15.

7501-9 should have their seats taken out and put into storage for any future refurbishments, as well as their NSA's. They should then gain Civic V2's and be placed onto local services such as the 35, around the region- WiFi and sockets would provide a good upgrade for services that don't justify brand new vehicles. 
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 6:47 pm #337

(19 Apr 2015, 6:42 pm)DaveyBowyer It would have to be 7518 as for the sort of low bridges on the 7 that the full height versions can't handle. It wouldn't be too bad having them as a spare if the X21 / X22 was to consist of new to 18 month old vehicles.
Think they should do this:

7522-8 along with 7518 and 9 brand new E400's for the X21/22, giving 17 vehicles for a PVR of 15.

7501-9 should have their seats taken out and put into storage for any future refurbishments, as well as their NSA's. They should then gain Civic V2's and be placed onto local services such as the 35, around the region- WiFi and sockets would provide a good upgrade for services that don't justify brand new vehicles. 

19 Apr 2015, 7:14 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 6:47 pm)mb134 Think they should do this:

7522-8 along with 7518 and 9 brand new E400's for the X21/22, giving 17 vehicles for a PVR of 15.

7501-9 should have their seats taken out and put into storage for any future refurbishments, as well as their NSA's. They should then gain Civic V2's and be placed onto local services such as the 35, around the region- WiFi and sockets would provide a good upgrade for services that don't justify brand new vehicles. 

What other services require 9 buses? 35-100/35A (7. 3 SL, 4 E400) scrap some of them.
omnicity4659
19 Apr 2015, 7:14 pm #338

(19 Apr 2015, 6:47 pm)mb134 Think they should do this:

7522-8 along with 7518 and 9 brand new E400's for the X21/22, giving 17 vehicles for a PVR of 15.

7501-9 should have their seats taken out and put into storage for any future refurbishments, as well as their NSA's. They should then gain Civic V2's and be placed onto local services such as the 35, around the region- WiFi and sockets would provide a good upgrade for services that don't justify brand new vehicles. 

What other services require 9 buses? 35-100/35A (7. 3 SL, 4 E400) scrap some of them.

4177
19 Apr 2015, 7:20 pm
(19 Apr 2015, 7:14 pm)Tommy_1581 What other services require 9 buses? 35-100/35A (7. 3 SL, 4 E400) scrap some of them.

I'm sure you could find a service that only needs 5 buses 
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 7:20 pm #339

(19 Apr 2015, 7:14 pm)Tommy_1581 What other services require 9 buses? 35-100/35A (7. 3 SL, 4 E400) scrap some of them.

I'm sure you could find a service that only needs 5 buses 

4177
19 Apr 2015, 7:51 pm
Something I noticed yesterday while in Morpeth, but forgot to note:
The 9.12 (?) X15 to Berwick was pretty full, quite a few on both decks of 7511

The 9.23 X18 to Newcastle was also reasonably busy, downstairs looked very full, with a fair few upstairs as well. Quite a few passengers boarded at Morpeth, which made me think, if this had been the X14 operated by the Dart that had just arrived on an X14, it would have been very uncomfortable. I think this allocation needs to be looked at, because every time I see a MPD on the X14 it is packed, maybe some Volvo B8RLE's? 
mb134
19 Apr 2015, 7:51 pm #340

Something I noticed yesterday while in Morpeth, but forgot to note:
The 9.12 (?) X15 to Berwick was pretty full, quite a few on both decks of 7511

The 9.23 X18 to Newcastle was also reasonably busy, downstairs looked very full, with a fair few upstairs as well. Quite a few passengers boarded at Morpeth, which made me think, if this had been the X14 operated by the Dart that had just arrived on an X14, it would have been very uncomfortable. I think this allocation needs to be looked at, because every time I see a MPD on the X14 it is packed, maybe some Volvo B8RLE's? 

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