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Michael   04 Aug 2016, 10:40 am
We have been advised that Sunderland City Council need to close a section of Doxford Park Way for resurfacing

The closure will take place from Tuesday 16 August 2016 to Wednesday 17 August 2016, from 0800 to 1800.

The road will be closed westbound, between the two Moorside roundabouts.

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:28:18:469

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Michael   11 Aug 2016, 8:25 am
More roadworks in Sunderland City Centre:

Temporary works along Holmeside, affecting all Sunderland services from Sunday 14 August 2016

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:59:48:483

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Michael   19 Aug 2016, 3:41 pm
(11 Aug 2016, 8:25 am)Michael wrote More roadworks in Sunderland City Centre:

Temporary works along Holmeside, affecting all Sunderland services from Sunday 14 August 2016

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:59:48:483

Update

Monday 15 August 2016 to Friday 19 August 2016

The eastbound closure of Vine Place/Holmeside will once again apply.

** UPDATE - 19/08/2016 - WE HAVE HAD NOTIFICATION THAT THE WORKS WILL NOT BE COMPLETED UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK, SO THE DIVERSION WILL REMAIN UNTIL THEN ***

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Acky81   24 Aug 2016, 12:02 am
Are the bus stops all changing in holmeside once roadworks are completed. One driver told me the 4 will stop at passion instead of the point
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Michael   25 Aug 2016, 5:57 pm
PB0002404/18 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between City and Grindon given service number 18/19 effective from 05-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


Looks like the changes might not be working on one part of the service....... Wink

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Michael   25 Aug 2016, 7:15 pm
(25 Aug 2016, 5:57 pm)Michael wrote PB0002404/18 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between City and Grindon given service number 18/19 effective from 05-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


Looks like the changes might not be working on one part of the service....... Wink

New timetable already on the NEXUS site:

http://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/fi...040916.pdf

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Dans_bus_photos   25 Aug 2016, 7:26 pm
(25 Aug 2016, 7:15 pm)Michael wrote New timetable already on the NEXUS site:

http://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/fi...040916.pdf

Only difference I can see is that it has returned to the old route around Grindon and will now serve Gartland Road again.
Michael   25 Aug 2016, 7:32 pm
(25 Aug 2016, 7:26 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote Only difference I can see is that it has returned to the old route around Grindon and will now serve Gartland Road again.

Ye, good move, i think the move to remove it from that part of Grindon was stupid anyway, glad its going back around that way.


Going to be tight though, timetable hasn't been giving any extra time.

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cbma06   25 Aug 2016, 7:43 pm
(25 Aug 2016, 7:26 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote Only difference I can see is that it has returned to the old route around Grindon and will now serve Gartland Road again.


That's the only change that I was told


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Michael   25 Aug 2016, 7:43 pm
(11 Aug 2016, 8:25 am)Michael wrote More roadworks in Sunderland City Centre:

Temporary works along Holmeside, affecting all Sunderland services from Sunday 14 August 2016

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:59:48:483

Update on these roadworks:


Return of Holmeside bus stops for Services 5, 8, 10, 11, 16 and 20

From Tuesday 30 August 2016, these services will return to their normal westbound stops along Holmeside, outside the Market, rather than use the temporary bus stops outside Hay’s Travel.

Services 5 and 16 will observe the most westerly of these two stops, and Services 8, 10, 11 and 20 will observe the most easterly of these two stops.

There are no changes to times.

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Michael   26 Aug 2016, 6:48 pm
(25 Aug 2016, 5:57 pm)Michael wrote PB0002404/18 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between City and Grindon given service number 18/19 effective from 05-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


Looks like the changes might not be working on one part of the service....... Wink

Stagecoach have updated the info for the change:

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:54:18:687

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Michael   03 Sep 2016, 10:47 am
Anymore roadworks in Sunderland city centre and it'll be all closed!


Overnight temporary works on Fawcett Street and West Wear Street, affecting all Sunderland services on Friday 9 September 2016   https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:53:03:277

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Closure of Pallion Subway (Northbound) - from 29 September 2016 - affecting Services 11 and 18 - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:15:04:749

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Temporary Road Closure - North Bridge Street Bus Lane - Sunday 4 September 2016 - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:08:06:626

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Overnight temporary works along Holmeside, affecting all Sunderland services from Monday 5 September 2016 - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:13:19:471

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Michael   03 Sep 2016, 10:59 am
PB0001987/2 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Hartlepool/North Tees/ Norton Glebe given service number 36/37/38 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0001987/297 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Park End and Middlesbrough Bus Station given service number 39 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

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tyresmoke   03 Sep 2016, 12:29 pm
(03 Sep 2016, 10:59 am)Michael wrote PB0001987/2 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Hartlepool/North Tees/ Norton Glebe given service number 36/37/38 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0001987/297 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Park End and Middlesbrough Bus Station given service number 39 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Hmm they've never stopped tweaking these ones!
Cock Robin   03 Sep 2016, 3:14 pm
Should link them again!
Toni2019   03 Sep 2016, 3:26 pm
Has any one seen kinetics on serve 100 yet is there photo
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biglugs@yahoo.com   03 Sep 2016, 4:12 pm
(03 Sep 2016, 3:26 pm)Toni2019 wrote Has any one seen kinetics on serve 100 yet is there photo

I only seen 27506,09 today along with a alx300 but should be out as Slatyford have prepared it 4 service

4842
Best bus ever
glen   03 Sep 2016, 4:40 pm
I thought the buses 22508'15 were for stockton.
LVK 404L   03 Sep 2016, 4:47 pm
(03 Sep 2016, 4:12 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote I only seen 27506,09 today along with a alx300 but should be out as Slatyford have prepared it 4 service

Was prepared for service weeks ago. But no sing of it ever. I use the 100 every day and a kinetic has not been in service.
tyresmoke   03 Sep 2016, 5:52 pm
I think it's pretty clear that NE have looked at the condition of the Kinetic's and have decided not to put them into use.
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Dans_bus_photos   03 Sep 2016, 7:33 pm
How does transfers between divisions within the Stagecoach group happen?
Did Stagecoach North East request these kinetic's or were they told of management that they were getting them to replace certain buses?
glen   03 Sep 2016, 8:04 pm
If buses 22508'15 are in bad condition can't stagecoach north east sand buses the buses stagecoach Yorkshire get money back or can't there do that.
tyresmoke   03 Sep 2016, 8:08 pm
To be fair I think nobody at Stagecoach Yorkshire could believe anyone wanted to take them off their hands...
S813 FVK   03 Sep 2016, 8:10 pm
The fact that the North East is the Kinetic's 3rd home says something really.
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Ambassador   04 Sep 2016, 6:56 pm
It's really odd that the 100 doesn't get new investment as opposed to cast offs really

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Brian13   05 Sep 2016, 8:32 am
(04 Sep 2016, 6:56 pm)Ambassador wrote It's really odd that the 100 doesn't get new investment as opposed to cast offs really

Surprised there isn't deckers on there
markydh   05 Sep 2016, 12:47 pm
It's not that odd. There are no comparable single deckers on the market in terms of capacity and they can't upgrade to double deckers due to one of the routes having a low bridge. Obviously, the E300s can't keep going forever (maybe 2 years left in them). It will be interesting to see what the powers that be decide to do.
Ambassador   05 Sep 2016, 5:17 pm
(05 Sep 2016, 12:47 pm)markydh wrote It's not that odd. There are no comparable single deckers on the market in terms of capacity and they can't upgrade to double deckers due to one of the routes having a low bridge. Obviously, the E300s can't keep going forever (maybe 2 years left in them). It will be interesting to see what the powers that be decide to do.

It wouldn't be a total loss to stop using the route with the low bridge. Plenty of alternatives around

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
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S813 FVK   05 Sep 2016, 5:27 pm
(05 Sep 2016, 5:17 pm)Ambassador wrote It wouldn't be a total loss to stop using the route with the low bridge. Plenty of alternatives around

Exactly - if they just used Handy Drive etc both ways, deckers would be fine. Most drivers go to Newcastle via Dunston, out onto the A1 and off at the next sliproad onto the bypass thing that follows through onto the Redheugh Bridge yet come back to the Metrocentre via Teams & Handy Drive.
stagecoachbusdepot   05 Sep 2016, 9:22 pm
(05 Sep 2016, 5:27 pm)S813 FVK wrote Exactly - if they just used Handy Drive etc both ways, deckers would be fine. Most drivers go to Newcastle via Dunston, out onto the A1 and off at the next sliproad onto the bypass thing that follows through onto the Redheugh Bridge yet come back to the Metrocentre via Teams & Handy Drive.

I think it's about the drivers having the option to take the other route, to avoid traffic etc.

What has always been a little hard to believe is that a 46 seat 12.6m E300 would be unacceptable despite the 05-plates only having two more seats.  And if capacity is really the reason for lack of investment, why is/was a 43 seat Kinetic being considered?
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