(21 Oct 2013, 5:13 pm)dans_bus_photos wrote Its more the cost- why have a driver sitting in the interchange for 25mins every half an hour throughout the day just so they dont have to interwork services.
(21 Oct 2013, 5:04 pm)Michael wrote TBH they shouldn't have to inter-work, to me its laziness from the managers department.
(20 Oct 2013, 11:48 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Limited Stopping Service
20B - Sunderland - Houghton le Spring - Easington Lane - Belmont - Gilesgate Moor - Durham - Ferryhill - Newton Aycliffe - Darlington
Sunderland to Easington Lane - 31 Minutes (22 Minutes)
Easington Lane to Durham - 33 Minutes (25 Minutes)
Durham to Darlington - 59 Minutes (45 Minutes)
Journey Time = 126 Minutes (92 Minutes)
I had a thought for an Alternative Route between Sunderland and Durham that may perhaps provide a Faster Journey in which the Journey Time of 50 Minutes remained the same, as for the Darlington part, I got bored a little and decided to further my Experiment for an Alternative Route and to also see what the Journey Time would be like. Obviously this part would never actually happen.
(21 Oct 2013, 6:02 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Once again, I will say, well done at using your mind, however absurd, with this suggestion, who would benefit from this service, how well would it be used, I cant see many use from start to end, do people from Houghton need a direct link to Durham when there is already Arrivas 7 running out of Durham, is the 7 every 15 mins? Do GNE have the stomach to compete in an Arriva dominated area, look at OK1 to Darlo, Arriva won the day there. I could not see people sitting on a bus 1hr32 never mind 2hr06
It wont happen anytime soon but think of this
Sunderland-Ryhope-Dalton Park-Peterlee-Station Town-Sedgefield-Stockton-Darlington stopping only at the main bus stops in those places, I cant be bothered to work out timing at the moment, but see what you can make of this
(21 Oct 2013, 6:10 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Arriva's 7 is indeed every 15 minutes plus it is upgraded to Sapphire shortly anyway. So, unless Go North East can offer anything better than leather seats, WiFi, Plug Sockets and the money back guarantee if a vehicle not to Sapphire standard is used on the service, then I think they might want to keep well away from Durham-Darlington.
(21 Oct 2013, 6:13 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Without trying to sound silly, what is Sapphire is it a brand or is vehicle?
(22 Oct 2013, 11:01 am)Tom wrote Does anyone know if the X1 is busy from Hetton to Easington Lane?
(22 Oct 2013, 11:47 am)Andreos1 wrote It varies.
Seen it busy and carrying fresh air at different times of the day.
On other services, that level of usage has seen a service reduced or curtailed.
I am sure an insider will be able to clarify loadings
(22 Oct 2013, 11:47 am)Andreos1 wrote It varies.
Seen it busy and carrying fresh air at different times of the day.
On other services, that level of usage has seen a service reduced or curtailed.
I am sure an insider will be able to clarify loadings
(22 Oct 2013, 12:02 pm)fozzovmurton wrote I second that Andreos...
Something else have seen a few times in the last few months is the X1 terminatng short at Hetton, although that is probably to do with trying to keep to time
(27 Oct 2013, 4:44 pm)Tom wrote Not sure what can be done about it, but ''Washington Street Shuttle'' services generally have very poor passenger numbers.
The M2/M3 are generally busy from Concord to Birtley. However, from Concord to Heworth they are terrible. There were two passengers on the M2 leaving Heworth before my 4 came in, which isn't good. When I saw the M2/M3 leaving Concord bound for Heworth they were poor too, but busier. Not sure if people use them from Sulgrave/Donwell, though. I personally think they should have them terminating at Concord, with alternate journeys extending to Heworth.
The W5/W6 were totally awful. They only left with about 3/4 passengers, one W6 even left empty. I rode one from Concord to Washington not long ago, and me and other two OAP's were the only ones on from Concord, who both departed at Blackfell. There were a couple of people got on there, but thats it. It doesn't seem good to me, any suggestions of what can be done to improve numbers?
(27 Oct 2013, 5:01 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote The M2/M3 could be improved but Passenger Number are quite good as I use it Daily, Journeys before 10am get rammed coming from Birtley, It's the same after 3pm in Both Directions, And Numbers between 10am and 3pm are ok I would say. Evenings after Rush Hour and on Sundays are Very Quiet. As for the W5/W6 that service has always been awful and I can't see anyway to improve it other than have it under the Nexus Contract much like the 37/73 throughout the day.
(27 Oct 2013, 5:05 pm)Tom wrote The M2/M3 are very busy from Concord to Birtley, however Concord to Heworth aren't!
Yeah, the W5/W6 will eventually go under Nexus Contract. Are they good Galleries-Brady Sqaure/Barmston?
(27 Oct 2013, 5:11 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote With the 4 being Every 10 Minutes it has an Impact on the M2/M3 between Heworth and Concord, Whereas the W5/W6 are just awful across the whole route.
(27 Oct 2013, 5:22 pm)cbma06 wrote their was always a 10 minute service provided when it was the 194/294 between Galleries and Heworth.
the M2/M3 used to be the 179/180? between Concord-galleries-Chester-Le-Street, so maybe GNE should curtail the M2/M3 at Concord if its not making much income and debrand the M in front of the service number.
(27 Oct 2013, 5:05 pm)Tom wrote The M2/M3 are very busy from Concord to Birtley, however Concord to Heworth aren't!
Yeah, the W5/W6 will eventually go under Nexus Contract. Are they good Galleries-Brady Sqaure/Barmston?
(27 Oct 2013, 6:03 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Just a few ideas I have put together for the W5/W6, To be honest you can't really do much with it. I'll work on the M2/M3 after I have had my Tea.
Option 1
W5 – Waterview Park – Barmston - Brady Square - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell – Concord – Donwell – Springwell – Springwell Estate – Wrekenton -Birtley Crematorium - Lansbury Drive - Birtley - Barley Mow Estate
W6 – Waterview Park – Barmston - Barmston Court - Washington Village - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord – Donwell – Springwell – Springwell Estate – Wrekenton - Birtley Crematorium - Lansbury Drive - Birtley - Barley Mow Estate
Option 2
W5 – Brady Square - Biddick - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell – Concord – Sulgrave – Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park – Boldon Asda - Jarrow
W6 – Barmston Court - Washington Village - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord – Sulgrave – Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park - Boldon Asda – Jarrow
Option 3
W5 – Washington Galleries – Biddick – Brady Square – Barmston – Peel Retail Park – Sulgrave – Concord – Blackfell – Oxclose – Washington Galleries
W6 – Washington Galleries – Washington Village – Barmston Court – Barmston – Peel Retail Park – Sulgrave – Concord – Blackfell – Oxclose – Washington Galleries
(27 Oct 2013, 6:14 pm)Andreos1 wrote weren't there a stack of suggestions a few months back for these services?
With the routes around the place being suitable, a frequent circular service should suffice. There will be regular links from the villages into concord and the galleries and onto connecting services - if the core routes like the x1 and 4 are to stay the same.
Ps my shift button on the phone is knackered. Only works after full stops...
(27 Oct 2013, 5:38 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Yeah but People living at Donwell/Sulgrave would lose a Direct Link to Heworth, which would mean they'd have to get the 56 into Concord and Change onto the 4 which would result in possibly costing them more money. But I would drop the "M" on the Service Number.
(27 Oct 2013, 6:58 pm)cbma06 wrote Whats wrong with changing onto another service at key points like Concord, there would be a lot of passengers out there in the world that would prefer to have a direct link to a place where there want to go, its not always possible, how is it costing them more, if passengers have bus passes or day passes or week passes or monthly passes, nothing wrong with getting a 10 minute freq bus on service 56 and then changing to another 10 minute freq bus on service 4 to finish there journey.
(27 Oct 2013, 6:58 pm)cbma06 wrote Whats wrong with changing onto another service at key points like Concord, there would be a lot of passengers out there in the world that would prefer to have a direct link to a place where there want to go, its not always possible, how is it costing them more, if passengers have bus passes or day passes or week passes or monthly passes, nothing wrong with getting a 10 minute freq bus on service 56 and then changing to another 10 minute freq bus on service 4 to finish there journey.