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Tom   17 Jul 2015, 3:00 pm
What's the X7 then?
S813 FVK   17 Jul 2015, 3:02 pm
(17 Jul 2015, 3:00 pm)Tom wrote What's the X7 then?

I can only think of the X13 renumbered. No doubt Kuyoyo will know more...
Tom   17 Jul 2015, 3:09 pm
(17 Jul 2015, 3:02 pm)S813 FVK wrote I can only think of the X13 renumbered. No doubt Kuyoyo will know more...

Ah yeah that's what it'll be I forgot about the X13. Cheers.
DavidSBrough   17 Jul 2015, 10:58 pm
The X4 is becoming the X7, the X5 is becoming the X8 and the X13 is becoming the X9.

If you search the registration number on Google it comes up what the service number is.
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mb134   18 Jul 2015, 9:23 am
(17 Jul 2015, 10:58 pm)DavidSBrough wrote The X4 is becoming the X7, the X5 is becoming the X8 and the X13 is becoming the X9.

If you search the registration number on Google it comes up what the service number is.

Any reason for the change of service numbers?
Tom   18 Jul 2015, 9:25 am
(18 Jul 2015, 9:23 am)mb134 wrote Any reason for the change of service numbers?

Probably to group them all together, so you'll have X7/X8/X9/X10/X11 instead of X4/X5/X10/X11/X13.
mb134   18 Jul 2015, 9:27 am
(18 Jul 2015, 9:25 am)Tom wrote Probably to group them all together, so you'll have X7/X8/X9/X10/X11 instead of X4/X5/X10/X11/X13.

Seems fair enough, still think it's going to be a bit confusing though... 

What's happening with the current X9 then?
S813 FVK   18 Jul 2015, 9:39 am
(18 Jul 2015, 9:27 am)mb134 wrote Seems fair enough, still think it's going to be a bit confusing though... 

What's happening with the current X9 then?

Being renumbered X6 i think.
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tyresmoke   18 Jul 2015, 2:25 pm
It also rids us of duplicate X-numbers too, what with having two X4s and X5s

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omnicity4659   19 Jul 2015, 8:29 am
(18 Jul 2015, 2:25 pm)tyresmoke wrote It also rids us of duplicate X-numbers too, what with having two X4s and X5s

Then you have X21 and X22... 

Great to see that the X20 will go to Alnwick, but I see route variations on the X18...  Sad

The X21/X22 looks like they're changing, I hope it improves the service instead of faffing around with morning services and cutting early evening services.
tyresmoke   19 Jul 2015, 12:09 pm
Nobody seems to have picked up on this yet but the 46 will be extended from Crook to Tow Law every hour during the daytime from the end of August. Departures from Durham at 50 mins past will go to Tow Law

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Jimmi   19 Jul 2015, 12:15 pm
(19 Jul 2015, 12:09 pm)tyresmoke wrote Nobody seems to have picked up on this yet but the 46 will be extended from Crook to Tow Law every hour during the daytime from the end of August. Departures from Durham at 50 mins past will go to Tow Law

Wow, that's good, there will be two buses an hour from Crook to Tow Law again (combined with X1), hasn't been two Arriva buses an hour between Crook and Tow Law since they decided to have the 1 terminate in Crook with the 1B only continuing to Tow Law hourly which was many years ago now.

Would quite like to do that full route when it starts, especially on a double decker.
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tyresmoke   19 Jul 2015, 12:28 pm
(19 Jul 2015, 12:15 pm)Jimmi wrote Wow, that's good, there will be two buses an hour from Crook to Tow Law again (combined with X1), hasn't been two Arriva buses an hour between Crook and Tow Law since they decided to have the 1 terminate in Crook with the 1B only continuing to Tow Law hourly which was many years ago now.

Would quite like to do that full route when it starts, especially on a double decker.

Yeah shame the timetables don't quite meet to be half hourly but its a start on the expansion of adding extra bits to our network...
Will obviously need an extra bus to be allocated to the 46/48 circuit.

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mb134   19 Jul 2015, 4:38 pm
(19 Jul 2015, 8:29 am)GX03 SVC wrote Then you have X21 and X22... 

Great to see that the X20 will go to Alnwick, but I see route variations on the X18...  Sad

The X21/X22 looks like they're changing, I hope it improves the service instead of faffing around with morning services and cutting early evening services.

The X21/X22 changes will probably just be timetable adjustments, can't see them massively changing them, as most of the time they run perfectly fine. The "faffing around" with morning services seems to have helped actually, most Newcastle bound services are on time now, compared with before the changes.
Mark P   20 Jul 2015, 4:22 pm
The revised 63 currently doing a larger loop of the town centre. From Morrisons onto the High Street, picking up at Wilkos eastbound then opposite the bus station before heading down the sea front towards the clock.
RobinHood   20 Jul 2015, 10:02 pm
(20 Jul 2015, 4:22 pm)Mark P wrote The revised 63 currently doing a larger loop of the town centre. From Morrisons onto the High Street, picking up at Wilkos eastbound then opposite the bus station before heading down the sea front towards the clock.

Apparently due to Redcar & Cleveland Borough Council failing to revise the traffic light sequence at Lord Street/High Street. Buses can't operate directly from Lord Street to Moore Street as a green traffic signal also gives a green pedestrian signal on Moore Street. Safety reasons mean a larger loop is in operation.
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Mark P   21 Jul 2015, 11:45 am
Has anyone had chance to look at the revised 63 at the Middlesbrough end yet?
A closer look at the new timetable would suggest the PVR should drop back to 13 or are the vehicles now sitting at MBS for 15 mins instead of 5?
Kuyoyo   21 Jul 2015, 12:16 pm
(21 Jul 2015, 11:45 am)Mark P wrote Has anyone had chance to look at the revised 63 at the Middlesbrough end yet?
A closer look at the new timetable would suggest the PVR should drop back to 13 or are the vehicles now sitting at MBS for 15 mins instead of 5?

It is now PVR 13 - hence the withdrawal of 1301.
Michael   21 Jul 2015, 12:33 pm
PB0002032/301 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Blyth and Morpeth given service number 100 effective from 04-Sep-2015.

PB0002032/512 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: North Shields
Finish Point: North Shields Ferry
Via:
Service Number: 19A
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 13-SEP-2015
Other Details: Special service for Great North Run

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Cock Robin   21 Jul 2015, 5:11 pm
(21 Jul 2015, 12:16 pm)Kuyoyo wrote It is now PVR 13 - hence the withdrawal of 1301.

Though 1301 has been off since the start of the month.
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Cock Robin   21 Jul 2015, 5:14 pm
(20 Jul 2015, 4:22 pm)Mark P wrote The revised 63 currently doing a larger loop of the town centre. From Morrisons onto the High Street, picking up at Wilkos eastbound then opposite the bus station before heading down the sea front towards the clock.

It ISN't actually picking up opposite the bus station - runs non stop from Wilkinsons to the Clock! A right farce! A driver yesterday failed to get a 63 to stop opp the bus station to take the bus off him for the 81, despite banging on the back!
tyresmoke   21 Jul 2015, 6:45 pm
(21 Jul 2015, 5:14 pm)Cock Robin wrote It ISN't actually picking up opposite the bus station - runs none stop from Wilkinsons to the Clock! A right farce! A driver yesterday failed to get a 63 to stop opp the bus station to take the bus off him for the 81, despite banging on the back!

Won't be registered to stop there despite running past, hence why it won't stop.

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Cock Robin   22 Jul 2015, 3:19 pm
Won't be registered to pick up at Wilkinsons either?!
tyresmoke   22 Jul 2015, 6:07 pm
I'd guess it would be in lieu of the Moore St stop?

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mb134   22 Jul 2015, 10:55 pm
When will the Northumberland changes be made public?
Tom   22 Jul 2015, 11:03 pm
(22 Jul 2015, 10:55 pm)mb134 wrote When will the Northumberland changes be made public?

I'd say pretty soon if they are starting on the 6th September.

Possibly the start of August?
Michael   23 Jul 2015, 10:51 am
A late one:
PB0002717/307 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Redcar given service number 63 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Kuyoyo   23 Jul 2015, 11:03 am
(23 Jul 2015, 10:51 am)Michael wrote A late one:
PB0002717/307 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Redcar given service number 63 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.

Will be as mentioned above - the temporary routing in Redcar until the council modify the Moore Street/High Street junction to allow the 63 to go straight on.
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omnicity4659   23 Jul 2015, 11:32 am
(21 Jul 2015, 12:33 pm)Michael wrote PB0002032/301 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Blyth and Morpeth given service number 100 effective from 04-Sep-2015.

Great to hear the 100 has been cut, that means I don't have to share 35s with rowdy college students.
mb134   23 Jul 2015, 3:14 pm
(23 Jul 2015, 11:32 am)GX03 SVC wrote Great to hear the 100 has been cut, that means I don't have to share 35s with rowdy college students.

But, unless there is an alternative service, how are college students going to get to and from college? 

Also, the students will still use the 35 if they do currently?
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