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North Tyneside service changes - March 2020

North Tyneside service changes - March 2020

 
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1833
20 Feb 2020, 12:10 pm
#41
(20 Feb 2020, 12:01 pm)Tom It’s quite poor, but I think Go North East tickets are going to be accepted on GCT operated 11,19,40,41 and 42/42A.

Even if they are, the hastle of not being able to continue on full route, changing buses. Not a good customer journey
JP6004
20 Feb 2020, 12:10 pm #41

(20 Feb 2020, 12:01 pm)Tom It’s quite poor, but I think Go North East tickets are going to be accepted on GCT operated 11,19,40,41 and 42/42A.

Even if they are, the hastle of not being able to continue on full route, changing buses. Not a good customer journey

20 Feb 2020, 12:13 pm
#42
(20 Feb 2020, 12:01 pm)Tom It’s quite poor, but I think Go North East tickets are going to be accepted on GCT operated 11,19,40,41 and 42/42A.
I assume that will only include return tickets issued on the earlier journeys GNE operate and not the likes of day/week/month tickets?

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streetdeckfan
20 Feb 2020, 12:13 pm #42

(20 Feb 2020, 12:01 pm)Tom It’s quite poor, but I think Go North East tickets are going to be accepted on GCT operated 11,19,40,41 and 42/42A.
I assume that will only include return tickets issued on the earlier journeys GNE operate and not the likes of day/week/month tickets?

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Tom
6138
20 Feb 2020, 12:17 pm
#43
(20 Feb 2020, 12:13 pm)streetdeckfan I assume that will only include return tickets issued on the earlier journeys GNE operate and not the likes of day/week/month tickets?

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Probably any paper/app ticket i’d imagine.
Tom
20 Feb 2020, 12:17 pm #43

(20 Feb 2020, 12:13 pm)streetdeckfan I assume that will only include return tickets issued on the earlier journeys GNE operate and not the likes of day/week/month tickets?

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Probably any paper/app ticket i’d imagine.

24
20 Feb 2020, 7:39 pm
#44
Scrapping the 19 from Ashington to Northumberland Park seems odd - Ashington to Cramlington has always been the busiest section when I've travelled on the route, even more than the southern part! There aren't too many passengers in and around Seaton Delaval, so an extension of the 42 from Cramlington might make more sense (though irritatingly it would just add 2 to the PVR - Cramlington to Ashington is timetabled as taking 33 minutes so it would add 66 minutes to each run, when ideally you'd want under 60).
BoroLad
20 Feb 2020, 7:39 pm #44

Scrapping the 19 from Ashington to Northumberland Park seems odd - Ashington to Cramlington has always been the busiest section when I've travelled on the route, even more than the southern part! There aren't too many passengers in and around Seaton Delaval, so an extension of the 42 from Cramlington might make more sense (though irritatingly it would just add 2 to the PVR - Cramlington to Ashington is timetabled as taking 33 minutes so it would add 66 minutes to each run, when ideally you'd want under 60).

3564
21 Feb 2020, 10:04 am
#45
Do you think eventually they will just end up putting the 311 back into it's former guise (305) and extend it to Wallsend replacing the 41?
L469 YVK
21 Feb 2020, 10:04 am #45

Do you think eventually they will just end up putting the 311 back into it's former guise (305) and extend it to Wallsend replacing the 41?

4704
21 Feb 2020, 11:13 am
#46
(20 Feb 2020, 11:34 am)Tom What i would guess will happen, is the 40 and 41 will be every 15 minutes throughout the whole route, partially replacing the 42 and 42A?

From the VOSA listing it seems like it's going to be every 30 minutes from Hadrian Park to Howdon only via Wallsend. The section from Howden to Hadrian Park the other way being scrapped altogether. There's also no mention of the 40 at all so suggests that it's not going to be a clockwise and anti-clockwise route anymore with the 11 going via Holycross to replace the 42/42A.

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/543286/
Storx
21 Feb 2020, 11:13 am #46

(20 Feb 2020, 11:34 am)Tom What i would guess will happen, is the 40 and 41 will be every 15 minutes throughout the whole route, partially replacing the 42 and 42A?

From the VOSA listing it seems like it's going to be every 30 minutes from Hadrian Park to Howdon only via Wallsend. The section from Howden to Hadrian Park the other way being scrapped altogether. There's also no mention of the 40 at all so suggests that it's not going to be a clockwise and anti-clockwise route anymore with the 11 going via Holycross to replace the 42/42A.

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/543286/

2302
21 Feb 2020, 1:45 pm
#47
So the 11 is going to be its former 17 route to Wallsend as for the 40/41, i'd guess the 40 is going to do Wallsend-Hadrian Park via Battle Hill and the 41 Wallsend- Hadrian Park via Howdon and High Howdon like it used to as for the 42/42A Wallsend-North Shields i dont see a replacement at all

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
21 Feb 2020, 1:45 pm #47

So the 11 is going to be its former 17 route to Wallsend as for the 40/41, i'd guess the 40 is going to do Wallsend-Hadrian Park via Battle Hill and the 41 Wallsend- Hadrian Park via Howdon and High Howdon like it used to as for the 42/42A Wallsend-North Shields i dont see a replacement at all


Kind Regards
Tez

19191
21 Feb 2020, 3:09 pm
#48
Toontour registered for 2020:

Starts on 04 Apr 2020
Finishes on 01 Nov 2020

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/543868/

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 Feb 2020, 3:09 pm #48

Toontour registered for 2020:

Starts on 04 Apr 2020
Finishes on 01 Nov 2020

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/543868/


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

4704
21 Feb 2020, 7:21 pm
#49
(21 Feb 2020, 1:45 pm)V514DFT So the 11 is going to be its former 17 route to Wallsend as for the 40/41, i'd guess the 40 is going to do Wallsend-Hadrian Park via Battle Hill and the 41 Wallsend- Hadrian Park via Howdon and High Howdon like it used to as for the 42/42A Wallsend-North Shields i dont see a replacement at all

There isn't a registration for the 40? It's only the 41 and 42/42A? The 42/42A from Cobalt to North Shields is being replaced by the 335 (subsidised). There's no replacement Wallsend to Cobalt by the looks of it but with the 22 every 10 minutes it's not really worth it.
Storx
21 Feb 2020, 7:21 pm #49

(21 Feb 2020, 1:45 pm)V514DFT So the 11 is going to be its former 17 route to Wallsend as for the 40/41, i'd guess the 40 is going to do Wallsend-Hadrian Park via Battle Hill and the 41 Wallsend- Hadrian Park via Howdon and High Howdon like it used to as for the 42/42A Wallsend-North Shields i dont see a replacement at all

There isn't a registration for the 40? It's only the 41 and 42/42A? The 42/42A from Cobalt to North Shields is being replaced by the 335 (subsidised). There's no replacement Wallsend to Cobalt by the looks of it but with the 22 every 10 minutes it's not really worth it.

Tom
6138
21 Feb 2020, 8:15 pm
#50
(21 Feb 2020, 7:21 pm)Storx There isn't a registration for the 40? It's only the 41 and 42/42A? The 42/42A from Cobalt to North Shields is being replaced by the 335 (subsidised). There's no replacement Wallsend to Cobalt by the looks of it but with the 22 every 10 minutes it's not really worth it.

If (which is unlikely), the drivers have got it wrong.

What would make sense to me is have the 41 operating

Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Wallsend - Holy Cross then a circular up Churchill Street, via Coniston Road, Ridley Avenue, Tynemouth Road and back to Churchill street (then reverse).

That would maintain the bus service on Coniston Road - which would be lost if the 41 and 42 are no longer going to serve it.

Then the 11 would remain the same.
Tom
21 Feb 2020, 8:15 pm #50

(21 Feb 2020, 7:21 pm)Storx There isn't a registration for the 40? It's only the 41 and 42/42A? The 42/42A from Cobalt to North Shields is being replaced by the 335 (subsidised). There's no replacement Wallsend to Cobalt by the looks of it but with the 22 every 10 minutes it's not really worth it.

If (which is unlikely), the drivers have got it wrong.

What would make sense to me is have the 41 operating

Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Wallsend - Holy Cross then a circular up Churchill Street, via Coniston Road, Ridley Avenue, Tynemouth Road and back to Churchill street (then reverse).

That would maintain the bus service on Coniston Road - which would be lost if the 41 and 42 are no longer going to serve it.

Then the 11 would remain the same.

19191
22 Feb 2020, 12:03 pm
#51
(21 Feb 2020, 8:15 pm)Tom If (which is unlikely), the drivers have got it wrong.

What would make sense to me is have the 41 operating

Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Wallsend - Holy Cross then a circular up Churchill Street, via Coniston Road, Ridley Avenue, Tynemouth Road and back to Churchill street (then reverse).

That would maintain the bus service on Coniston Road - which would be lost if the 41 and 42 are no longer going to serve it.

Then the 11 would remain the same.

Changes are for the 22nd March, as its the 22nd February, hopefully they'll be online next week.

Can see a few Solo's getting withdrawn.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
22 Feb 2020, 12:03 pm #51

(21 Feb 2020, 8:15 pm)Tom If (which is unlikely), the drivers have got it wrong.

What would make sense to me is have the 41 operating

Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Wallsend - Holy Cross then a circular up Churchill Street, via Coniston Road, Ridley Avenue, Tynemouth Road and back to Churchill street (then reverse).

That would maintain the bus service on Coniston Road - which would be lost if the 41 and 42 are no longer going to serve it.

Then the 11 would remain the same.

Changes are for the 22nd March, as its the 22nd February, hopefully they'll be online next week.

Can see a few Solo's getting withdrawn.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

2302
22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm
#52
I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm #52

I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off


Kind Regards
Tez

19191
22 Feb 2020, 2:31 pm
#53
(22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm)V514DFT I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off

Nexus contract changes by the looks of it.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
22 Feb 2020, 2:31 pm #53

(22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm)V514DFT I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off

Nexus contract changes by the looks of it.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

2302
22 Feb 2020, 7:13 pm
#54
(22 Feb 2020, 2:31 pm)Michael Nexus contract changes by the looks of it.
Why doesnt that surprise me

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
22 Feb 2020, 7:13 pm #54

(22 Feb 2020, 2:31 pm)Michael Nexus contract changes by the looks of it.
Why doesnt that surprise me


Kind Regards
Tez

4704
22 Feb 2020, 7:19 pm
#55
(22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm)V514DFT I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off

Stagecoach's 22 extension basically. It's more frequent, less expensive and also goes more places. There's no reason to use the 40/41 if you lived close enough to get the 22. Now that they've lost the night time and evenings it's looking very bleak for them and will be the final nail in the coffin imo hence the 11 going into Holy Cross. It wouldn't surprise me if the 41 is gone altogther or only Wallsend to Hadrian Park in the next couple years.
Storx
22 Feb 2020, 7:19 pm #55

(22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm)V514DFT I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off

Stagecoach's 22 extension basically. It's more frequent, less expensive and also goes more places. There's no reason to use the 40/41 if you lived close enough to get the 22. Now that they've lost the night time and evenings it's looking very bleak for them and will be the final nail in the coffin imo hence the 11 going into Holy Cross. It wouldn't surprise me if the 41 is gone altogther or only Wallsend to Hadrian Park in the next couple years.

Tom
6138
22 Feb 2020, 7:45 pm
#56
(22 Feb 2020, 7:19 pm)Storx Stagecoach's 22 extension basically. It's more frequent, less expensive and also goes more places. There's no reason to use the 40/41 if you lived close enough to get the 22. Now that they've lost the night time and evenings it's looking very bleak for them and will be the final nail in the coffin imo hence the 11 going into Holy Cross. It wouldn't surprise me if the 41 is gone altogther or only Wallsend to Hadrian Park in the next couple years.

Doesn’t look like the 11 is going to Holy Cross
https://bustimes.org/services/11-whitley-bay-wallsend
Tom
22 Feb 2020, 7:45 pm #56

(22 Feb 2020, 7:19 pm)Storx Stagecoach's 22 extension basically. It's more frequent, less expensive and also goes more places. There's no reason to use the 40/41 if you lived close enough to get the 22. Now that they've lost the night time and evenings it's looking very bleak for them and will be the final nail in the coffin imo hence the 11 going into Holy Cross. It wouldn't surprise me if the 41 is gone altogther or only Wallsend to Hadrian Park in the next couple years.

Doesn’t look like the 11 is going to Holy Cross
https://bustimes.org/services/11-whitley-bay-wallsend

4704
22 Feb 2020, 8:29 pm
#57
(22 Feb 2020, 7:45 pm)Tom Doesn’t look like the 11 is going to Holy Cross
https://bustimes.org/services/11-whitley-bay-wallsend

I'm sure someone above mentioned that it was who also mentioned the 335 going to North Shields (which was right). Might have a different daytime timetable to the evening one like the 40/41 currently do (not doing the Wallsend loop).
Storx
22 Feb 2020, 8:29 pm #57

(22 Feb 2020, 7:45 pm)Tom Doesn’t look like the 11 is going to Holy Cross
https://bustimes.org/services/11-whitley-bay-wallsend

I'm sure someone above mentioned that it was who also mentioned the 335 going to North Shields (which was right). Might have a different daytime timetable to the evening one like the 40/41 currently do (not doing the Wallsend loop).

320
24 Feb 2020, 8:06 pm
#58
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...2a-and-335

Changes in North Tyneside confirmed on Nexus website.
pbjd
24 Feb 2020, 8:06 pm #58

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...2a-and-335

Changes in North Tyneside confirmed on Nexus website.

Tom
6138
24 Feb 2020, 9:04 pm
#59
(24 Feb 2020, 8:06 pm)pbjd https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...2a-and-335

Changes in North Tyneside confirmed on Nexus website.

What a shambles that 41 route is - so if you live in Holy Cross you can’t get to Tynemouth Road where the doctors etc. is - you can only get back.

Hopefully Nexus look into that.
Tom
24 Feb 2020, 9:04 pm #59

(24 Feb 2020, 8:06 pm)pbjd https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...2a-and-335

Changes in North Tyneside confirmed on Nexus website.

What a shambles that 41 route is - so if you live in Holy Cross you can’t get to Tynemouth Road where the doctors etc. is - you can only get back.

Hopefully Nexus look into that.

2302
24 Feb 2020, 11:10 pm
#60
Wow those changes are utter garbage

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
24 Feb 2020, 11:10 pm #60

Wow those changes are utter garbage


Kind Regards
Tez

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