(10 Sep 2014, 4:20 pm)Racer_Experience wrote http://www.simplygo.com/news/greener-cle...north-east

Colleagues at Leyland Bus were working on this technology before the takeover by Volvo.

http://www.acalltobusiness.co.uk/article...enuId=3888

Sorry about the religious slant, but there is some technical information therein.

http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?code=cotn:TRK.L&display=discussion&id=11075236&action=detail

http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?c...tn%3ATRK.L&display=discussion&threshold=0&action=detail&id=11266301

http://www.torotrak.com/products-partner...ts/m-kers/

(10 Sep 2014, 4:28 pm)Michael wrote Why, they already euro 5 engines, these could of being used else where although, the current engines from the FAB 56/Cobalt Clipper will be moved down to other double/single deckers.

Work to fit the equipment will start in March 2015.


Also
Hard-pressed Tyne Valley rail passengers from Hexham and Corbridge are being urged to beat this week’s rail fares increases by switching to our Tynedalexpress service.

http://www.simplygo.com/news/buses-beat-...ley-trains

Not sure if it's a Similar System to what will be added to the FAB56/Cobalt B9's, But Transdev York have had one of there CitySightSeeing Dennis Tridents Retrofitted with a Battery Powered Electric Driveline, which replaces it's Cummins Engine and Voith Gearbox.

http://www.route-one.net/technology/trid...ic-magtec/

Might be worth Go North East having a look at, particularly for the B7TL Geminis in the Fleet, Even if added to Older Vehicles like the Tridents, it could potentially boost the Vehicles Value when Sold to another Operator etc.

The Gyrodrive system to be retrofitted to the GNE B9TLs:-
http://www.wired.com/2014/07/f1-kers-london-buses/

http://www.gkn.com/landsystems/brands/hy...fault.aspx

(10 Sep 2014, 4:51 pm)G-CPTN wrote The Gyrodrive system to be retrofitted to the GNE B9TLs:-
http://www.wired.com/2014/07/f1-kers-london-buses/

Thanks, more info than the link Bazza on here from the GNE site =D

(10 Sep 2014, 4:49 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Not sure if it's a Similar System to what will be added to the FAB56/Cobalt B9's, But Transdev York have had one of there CitySightSeeing Dennis Tridents Retrofitted with a Battery Powered Electric Driveline, which replaces it's Cummins Engine and Voith Gearbox.

http://www.route-one.net/technology/trid...ic-magtec/

Might be worth Go North East having a look at, particularly for the B7TL Geminis in the Fleet, Even if added to Older Vehicles like the Tridents, it could potentially boost the Vehicles Value when Sold to another Operator etc.

I'd imagine that local councils and indeed the local operators always bid for funding to implement 'greener' systems within their fleets.
As you say, the operators ultimately reap the rewards at the end of the day when it comes to the disposal of these vehicles...

(10 Sep 2014, 4:53 pm)Dan wrote I'd imagine that local councils and indeed the local operators always bid for funding to implement 'greener' systems within their fleets.
As you say, the operators ultimately reap the rewards at the end of the day when it comes to the disposal of these vehicles...

Some further information in another Article on Magtec
http://www.route-one.net/technology/time...ivetrains/

(10 Sep 2014, 4:34 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote http://www.route-one.net/people/go-north...ervicemen/

I wonder why the pull up in the background is displaying the old GNE logo though?

(10 Sep 2014, 5:25 pm)aureolin wrote I wonder why the pull up in the background is displaying the old GNE logo though?

Probably just an old photo they have used in the Article, think the Chronicle often use a Photo of one GNE's Wright Solars in the Red/Blue and Yellow Livery, when they do Articles on GNE.

Will the new system run like the Streelite Micro Hybrids or the way the horrible B5LH's run?

On another note, got a Cobalt Clipper 309 tometable through the door with just the 309 timetable showing and an advert for £12.50 per week travel. I live near Rake Lane and I suspect that GNE will be posting them out in areas that are served by both Arriva's 308 and GNE's 309.

Pay particular attention to the literature in the timetable.

A visit to Chester le Street depot today saw 4850/1 parked up withdrawn and 4930 loaned to Crook in exchange for 571 which is undergoing repairs.

(10 Sep 2014, 7:44 pm)RGR756V wrote A visit to Chester le Street depot today saw 4850/1 parked up withdrawn and 4930 loaned to Crook in exchange for 571 which is undergoing repairs.

Bet its much better than a MPD

The reason why Volvo B10BLE 4852 has not been 'officially' withdrawn is because Scania L94 4935 remains at Deptford.

The reason for this is due to MPD 542 being on loan to Hexham from Deptford, covering for MPD 535 which is VOR due to engine failure. If this vehicle is repaired prior to the end of this month when service AD122 ends until next summer, 4852 will be 'officially withdrawn' too.

Volvo B10BLE 4852 hasn't been allocated to service work for six days as far as I know, and is being held on retention as a last resort reserve, until 4935 arrives from Deptford. As I've said a few times over the past few days, it's as good as withdrawn.

(10 Sep 2014, 7:54 pm)Dan wrote The reason why Volvo B10BLE 4852 has not been 'officially' withdrawn is because Scania L94 4935 remains at Deptford.

The reason for this is due to MPD 542 being on loan to Hexham from Deptford, covering for MPD 535 which is VOR due to engine failure. If this vehicle is repaired prior to the end of this month when service AD122 ends until next summer, 4852 will be 'officially withdrawn' too.

Volvo B10BLE 4852 hasn't been allocated to service work for six days as far as I know, and is being held on retention as a last resort reserve, until 4935 arrives from Deptford. As I've said a few times over the past few days, it's as good as withdrawn.

Oh thank god!!

(10 Sep 2014, 7:49 pm)Michael wrote Bet its much better than a MPD

It won't be used on service 18 due to issues with parked cars on part of the route. It's not an Avenue Vivian situation....but some of the route features narrow roads with tight bends where folk like to park their cars. Not an issue with a MPD or B7!

(10 Sep 2014, 7:59 pm)RGR756V wrote It won't be used on service 18 due to issues with parked cars on part of the route. It's not an Avenue Vivian situation....but some of the route features narrow roads with tight bends where folk like to park their cars. Not an issue with a MPD or B7!

=(, shame

(10 Sep 2014, 7:26 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote Pay particular attention to the literature in the timetable.

Have they been pinching your inspired advertising straplines?

(10 Sep 2014, 4:33 pm)Dan wrote As someone who has very little knowledge in this area (our Corbridge resident may have a better idea), I think the current engines will remain in place and the appropriate systems brought in place with the existing engines.

Yes, as I understand, the modifications are purely 'add-ons' to the existing power unit:-

The Gyrodrive system uses a high speed flywheel made of carbon fibre to store the energy generated by a bus as it slows down to stop.
It then uses the stored energy to power an electric motor which helps accelerate the bus back up to speed, generating fuel savings of more than 20%.

From:- http://www.gkn.com/media/News/Pages/GKN-...buses.aspx

One of the early problems (in the late 1980s) with the Leyland energy-storage flywheel was containing an explosion (mechanical failure) of the carbon-fibre flywheel - the energy stored is significant and requires immense rotational speeds of the (low mass) flywheel.

I don't know how the GKN Gyrodrive flywheel compares (no doubt a couple of decades of development has improved the integrity of the flywheel) or whereabouts on the vehicle it will be installed, but it could herald a new phase of carbon emissions if it was to burst and breach the casing!

(10 Sep 2014, 7:54 pm)Dan wrote The reason why Volvo B10BLE 4852 has not been 'officially' withdrawn is because Scania L94 4935 remains at Deptford.

The reason for this is due to MPD 542 being on loan to Hexham from Deptford, covering for MPD 535 which is VOR due to engine failure. If this vehicle is repaired prior to the end of this month when service AD122 ends until next summer, 4852 will be 'officially withdrawn' too.

Volvo B10BLE 4852 hasn't been allocated to service work for six days as far as I know, and is being held on retention as a last resort reserve, until 4935 arrives from Deptford. As I've said a few times over the past few days, it's as good as withdrawn.

Why is 4935 still at Deptford?

(11 Sep 2014, 7:58 am)Michael wrote Why is 4935 still at Deptford?

Someone is a bit slow this morning! ;-)

Read the second paragraph of the post you quoted - Deptford would be one down if they gave 4935 to Chester whilst MPD 542 is on loan to Hexham; as such, 4852 remains in the fleet temporarily (though as Chester isn't allocating this vehicle, they're technically one down but clearly can cope regardless).

(11 Sep 2014, 7:58 am)Michael wrote Why is 4935 still at Deptford?

Someone is a bit slow this morning! ;-)

Read the second paragraph of the post you quoted - Deptford would be one down if they gave 4935 to Chester whilst MPD 542 is on loan to Hexham; as such, 4852 remains in the fleet temporarily (though as Chester isn't allocating this vehicle, they're technically one down but clearly can cope regardless).

(11 Sep 2014, 8:19 am)Dan wrote Someone is a bit slow this morning! ;-)

Read the second paragraph of the post you quoted - Deptford would be one down if they gave 4935 to Chester whilst MPD 542 is on loan to Hexham; as such, 4852 remains in the fleet temporarily (though as Chester isn't allocating this vehicle, they're technically one down but clearly can cope regardless).

Get me a coffee, i need to get back to uni... being off way to long!

When did the 20 start to stop at the bus stop after bede college, someone rang the bell after bede and he stopped.

Its the stops where only the 18 stops heading towards barnes.

(11 Sep 2014, 8:36 am)Michael wrote Get me a coffee, i need to get back to uni... being off way to long!

You're telling me!

In other news, Percy Main based Dennis Trident/Plaxton President 3891 (NK51 UCU) has arrived at Saltmeadows for repaint.

All four "DFDS Seaways" branded vehicles are to undergo a repaint, with each example carrying a different base livery colour. This is part of a campaign to re-launch the "DFDS Seaways" brand.

(11 Sep 2014, 8:49 am)Dan wrote You're telling me!

In other news, Percy Main based Dennis Trident/Plaxton President 3891 (NK51 UCU) has arrived at Saltmeadows for repaint.

All four "DFDS Seaways" branded vehicles are to undergo a repaint, with each example carrying a different base livery colour. This is part of a campaign to re-launch the "DFDS Seaways" brand.

Oh dear again?, what a waste.

Noticed that the painted exlime buses still have their inside branding.

Anyone wanting the branded Limes... seen 2 both heading to Sunderland

1 has just past Pennywell on the 78, 1 passed about 10 mins go should be or near park lane..

(11 Sep 2014, 8:52 am)Michael wrote Oh dear again?, what a waste.

Noticed that the painted exlime buses still have their inside branding.

Anyone wanting the branded Limes... seen 2 both heading to Sunderland

1 has just past Pennywell on the 78, 1 passed about 10 mins go should be or near park lane..

DFDS will be paying for it...

(11 Sep 2014, 9:16 am)tyresmoke wrote DFDS will be paying for it...

Still though, they wernt long done

(11 Sep 2014, 9:23 am)Michael wrote Still though, they wernt long done

July/August 2011 was when they were last done, in my opinion they should be put into Corporate Livery as they are quite frequently off route on the 1 or the Wallsend Locals, even the 9 which I caught a few weeks ago, on the flipside of that Percy Main often Allocate either 6116/17 or one of Cobalt B9's to the 327, So in reality it's a pointless Repaint.

(11 Sep 2014, 11:47 am)NEBCD Malarkey wrote July/August 2011 was when they were last done, in my opinion they should be put into Corporate Livery as they are quite frequently off route on the 1 or the Wallsend Locals, even the 9 which I caught a few weeks ago, on the flipside of that Percy Main often Allocate either 6116/17 or one of Cobalt B9's to the 327, So in reality it's a pointless Repaint.

Appreciate, they should be allocated to the 327 on a daily basis, but which ever route the vehicles are on, it is still an advert for DFDS.

Not sure if there have been any changes in Ijjmuiden, but all of the coaches at that end, were in operator livery.
There was no advertising at that end at all on the trips I have done there.

(11 Sep 2014, 9:16 am)tyresmoke wrote DFDS will be paying for it...

Indeed, I think that DFDS will partially contribute to the repainting of these vehicles.

They want presentation of buses which advertise their ferry service to be good and Go North East likewise want the same.

Go North East typically repaint their buses every 4-5 years, so now was the right time for them to be done.