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The summer service timetable has been introduced on Nexus' website. Effective from 29th March 2013, the timetable for the AD122 Newcastle - Haltwhistle - Roman Wall route can be viewed by clicking here.

The full timetable is here as Nexus are only showing the Classic journeys!

One of Classic's coaches was involved (and completely destroyed) in an accident near Alpe d'Huez in the French alps this morning... it is understood the driver passed away in the incident.

It is believed that the coach involved in the recent tragic event was TUI4840.
A photo of her in happier days can be viewed here.

daniel, if u look at the picture in the previous post you'll see its only got 1 rear axle, the coach you've mentioned is a twin axle coach. if you've any photos of the current classic fleet have a look at any with a tow bar and that'll narrow the options of which coach it was.

(26 Apr 2013, 6:32 pm)nk55 wrote daniel, if u look at the picture in the previous post you'll see its only got 1 rear axle, the coach you've mentioned is a twin axle coach. if you've any photos of the current classic fleet have a look at any with a tow bar and that'll narrow the options of which coach it was.

Ah - I didn't do my own research on the matter! I was just forwarding on what was said to me on another platform.
TUI4841 was spotted the other day, leaving TUI4840 to be the only Classic Coaches liveried Scania K114/Irizar Century. All of the others are in the TGM Group livery, and I don't believe any have been repainted into the Classic livery recently. With that in mind, it either isn't the above vehicle type or there has been an unaccounted for addition to the fleet.

my thoughts are TUI 4764, TUI 4765 or 4766. although not irizar century as said in the press, there seems to be only the tri-axle irizar coaches in the old & the best (in my opinion) livery.

Backed up by this weeks RouteOne suggesting it was a B12B / Berkhof so yeah one of those 3.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/8693282400/

For those who may remember when TGM Classic were based on the Wear Industrial Estate in Washington before moving to Annfield Plain in County Durham, The old Red Company Sign to this very day remains on the side of the entrance to offices of which the depot used to be situated.

As long as I can remember they have always been based in Annfield Plain - didnt know about the depot in Washington, but summised it was an outstation of some type.

I may be totally wrong...

it was used by the old u call & care call fleet, local buses & national express coaches (326/425). closed the depot when arriva took over tgm and everything moved to annfield plain.

Classic moved out of washington in 2007 only had the depot at washington 4 years moved in 2003 long after the bus war with go ahead northern. They share Annfield Plain depot with Burnside coaches and obviously as we all TGM are now owned by arriva.

Information from mickthebus81 and GeordieinYorkshire who commented on the photo on my Flickr page.

Yeah, thought it must have been an out station opposed to their main depot.
As I said earlier, always thought they had been based up at Annfield Pain.

Supposed it made sense having it to reduce dead mileage for the local stuff they had

Anyone have any further details on an ADL Enviro 200 spotted working AD122 for Classic last weekend?

Curious one this, so hang with me.

What is normally a Classic/TGM coach scholars service between Bournmoor and St Leonards Durham is now being worked by what I presume is an ex-Arriva decker (still has paintwork, but no lettering or fleet numbers) S649 HCU.

I havent seen anything to see Classic/TGM have given up the route, so can only assume they have picked up some stock in Arriva fleet clearances.

TGM are owned by Arriva, and they gained 2 Olympians at the same time Arriva got 7360-2/8/9 after the Tall Ships visited Hartlepool (hence why they also have the DAF ALX400 deckers that follow on from the first Arriva batch).

Yes, most people will be aware Arriva own TGM and the influx of Arriva vehicles from other areas after the Tall Ships which ended up staying in the region.

The vehicles which are ex-Arriva and based at Annfield Plain such as the Alx400's have all been painted in Classic/TGM colours as far as Im aware.
This one hasnt been repainted and I have never seen it operating a Classic/TGM route before, hence why I posted.

On having a quick search of the internet, I have found a photo of it www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/5292719037/ (with correct number plate, opposed to the incorrect one I gave initially)

They still have the odd ALX400 skulking around in London red, T320FGN springs to mind. For some reason they painted one Olympian and left one in Arriva livery.

Wonder why they left a couple?

Classic are operating all of the team transport for the European Athletics at Gateshead Stadium today and tomorrow so expect 6 or so coaches in use.

Why do I always see your buses running around Seaham on a night

Classic operate a bingo run from dawdon to gilesgate which could be a solo, dart, decker or coach. Its numbered 365 if I remember rightly.

Your bus is based at hetton and is part of yourbus heanor (nottingham). 3 electric hybrid solos and numerous levante coaches on national express contracts.

what buses have classic used on the 900 during the mlc

(06 Aug 2013, 2:33 pm)danpick wrote what buses have classic used on the 900 during the mlc

Classic/TGM: T320FGN DAF DB250/Alexander ALX400
http://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/9438104022/

Garnetts are helping Arriva out with the rest I believe.


EDIT: T318 was used today rather than T320. T320 was used on another day prior to today.

TGM Classic have had their 100 seat Volvo B9TL on the Metro replacement running from the stop near the Civic Centre today.
EDIT. Now with photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/98641142@N08/9457698508/

Classic Coaches have sold Leyland Tiger PIL2170, also sold are Optare Solo's Y295PDN (to Banga Buses) and YJ51JWW (to Hedingham Omnibuses).

Section 5.3 – Notice of Transport Manager Public Inquiries to be Held

TM Public Inquiry (EpisodeId:1776 PublicInquiryId:1128) for IAN RAYMOND SHIPLEY to be held at Hillcrest House Hillcrest House 386 Harehills Lane Leeds LS9 6NF, on 09 September 2013 commencing at 10:30 (Previous Publication6093))
Article 6 of Regulation (EC) No 1071/2009

Would this be the same Ian Shipley who runs Classic?

Classic have been using a mix of their DLA fleet, S236JUA and T312/13/17/18/19/20FGN, T421GGO on Metro Replacement, plus Volvo B9TL LJ58GCF saw use in the first week, plus one day last week.

(30 Aug 2013, 8:53 am)AdamY wrote Would this be the same Ian Shipley who runs Classic?

Just googled Ian Raymond Shipley and it doesn't seem that popular of a name.

Quite amazed at how many companies he has been involved with. Didn't realise it was as many!

Just in case anyone is unaware of article 6

Conditions relating to the requirement of good repute
1. Subject to paragraph 2 of this Article, Member States shall determine the conditions to be met by undertakings and trans­ port managers in order to satisfy the requirement of good repute laid down in Article 3(1)(b).
In determining whether an undertaking has satisfied that require­ ment, Member States shall consider the conduct of the undertak­ ing, its transport managers and any other relevant person as may be determined by the Member State. Any reference in this Article to convictions, penalties or infringements shall include convic­ tions, penalties or infringements of the undertaking itself, its transport managers and any other relevant person as may be determined by the Member State.
The conditions referred to in the first subparagraph shall include at least the following:
of establishment shall carry out in an appropriate and timely manner a duly completed administrative procedure, which shall include, if appropriate, a check at the premises of the undertaking concerned.
The procedure shall determine whether, due to specific cir­ cumstances, the loss of good repute would constitute a dis­ proportionate response in the individual case. Any such finding shall be duly reasoned and justified.
If the competent authority finds that the loss of good repute would constitute a disproportionate response, it may decide that good repute is unaffected. In such case, the reasons shall be recorded in the national register. The number of such deci­ sions shall be indicated in the report referred to in Article 26(1).
If the competent authority does not find that the loss of good repute would constitute a disproportionate response, the conviction or penalty shall lead to the loss of good repute;
(b) the Commission shall draw up a list of categories, types and degrees of seriousness of serious infringements of Commu­ nity rules which, in addition to those set out in Annex IV, may lead to the loss of good repute. Member States shall take into account information on those infringements, including information received from other Member States, when set­ ting the priorities for checks pursuant to Article 12(1).
Those measures, designed to amend non-essential elements of this Regulation by supplementing it and which relate to this list, shall be adopted in accordance with the regulatory procedure with scrutiny referred to in Article 25(3).
To this end, the Commission shall:
(i) lay down the categories and types of infringement which are most frequently encountered;
(ii) define the degree of seriousness of infringements accord­ ing to their potential to create a risk of fatalities or seri­ ous injuries; and
(iii) provide the frequency of occurrence beyond which repeated infringements shall be regarded as more seri­ ous, by taking into account the number of drivers used for the transport activities managed by the transport manager.
3. The requirement laid down in Article 3(1)(b) shall not be satisfied until a rehabilitation measure or any other measure hav­ ing an equivalent effect has been taken pursuant to the relevant provisions of national law.
(a)
that there be no compelling grounds for doubting the good repute of the transport manager or the transport undertak­ ing, such as convictions or penalties for any serious infringe­ ment of national rules in force in the fields of:
(i) commercial law;
(ii) insolvency law;
(iii) pay and employment conditions in the profession;
(iv) road traffic;
(v) professional liability;
(vi) trafficking in human beings or drugs; and
that the transport manager or the transport undertaking have not in one or more Member States been convicted of a seri­ ous criminal offence or incurred a penalty for a serious infringement of Community rules relating in particular to:
(i) the driving time and rest periods of drivers, working time and the installation and use of recording equipment;
(ii) the maximum weights and dimensions of commercial vehicles used in international traffic;
(iii) the initial qualification and continuous training of drivers;
(iv) the roadworthiness of commercial vehicles, including the compulsory technical inspection of motor vehicles;
(v) access to the market in international road haulage or, as appropriate, access to the market in road passenger transport;
(vi) safety in the carriage of dangerous goods by road;
(vii) the installation and use of speed-limiting devices in cer­ tain categories of vehicle;
(viii) driving licences;
(ix) admission to the occupation;
(x) animal transport.
(b)
2.
paragraph 1:
For the purposes of point (b) of the third subparagraph of
(a) where the transport manager or the transport undertaking has in one or more Member States been convicted of a seri­ ous criminal offence or incurred a penalty for one of the most serious infringements of Community rules as set out in Annex IV, the competent authority of the Member State
of establishment shall carry out in an appropriate and timely manner a duly completed administrative procedure, which shall include, if appropriate, a check at the premises of the undertaking concerned.
The procedure shall determine whether, due to specific cir­ cumstances, the loss of good repute would constitute a dis­ proportionate response in the individual case. Any such finding shall be duly reasoned and justified.
If the competent authority finds that the loss of good repute would constitute a disproportionate response, it may decide that good repute is unaffected. In such case, the reasons shall be recorded in the national register. The number of such deci­ sions shall be indicated in the report referred to in Article 26(1).
If the competent authority does not find that the loss of good repute would constitute a disproportionate response, the conviction or penalty shall lead to the loss of good repute;
(b) the Commission shall draw up a list of categories, types and degrees of seriousness of serious infringements of Commu­ nity rules which, in addition to those set out in Annex IV, may lead to the loss of good repute. Member States shall take into account information on those infringements, including information received from other Member States, when set­ ting the priorities for checks pursuant to Article 12(1).
Those measures, designed to amend non-essential elements of this Regulation by supplementing it and which relate to this list, shall be adopted in accordance with the regulatory procedure with scrutiny referred to in Article 25(3).
To this end, the Commission shall:
(i) lay down the categories and types of infringement which are most frequently encountered;
(ii) define the degree of seriousness of infringements accord­ ing to their potential to create a risk of fatalities or seri­ ous injuries; and
(iii) provide the frequency of occurrence beyond which repeated infringements shall be regarded as more seri­ ous, by taking into account the number of drivers used for the transport activities managed by the transport manager.
3. The requirement laid down in Article 3(1)(b) shall not be satisfied until a rehabilitation measure or any other measure hav­ ing an equivalent effect has been taken pursuant to the relevant provisions of national law.