(23 Jul 2015, 9:05 pm)aureolin wrote Internal branding is difficult, as you can't standardise it across your fleet. If you've seen the MAX branding on the Arriva VDL/Gemini 2s, you'll see what I mean. Although it's been applied, it serves no purpose, as you'd have to angle your neck at a 90 degree angle to read it. The same problem with the Volvo/Gemini 2s that GNE have, especially on the lower deck.

Streetlites, for example, would be great to apply internal branding to, because of the shaping of the body towards roof in the saloon. But then you'd encounter people complaining that it's not standard across the fleet...

The problems with internal branding don't just lie with the angle of the cove panels, either.

If you've been on Arriva's "MAX" branded Volvo B9TLs on service X93, you may have noticed that the same internal branding vinyls are not placed in the same section of the cove panel in each bus.

As such, Arriva has run into a bit of a dilemma with at least one vehicle in that batch, as their line map for the X93 has been covered by something else (a hammer to break the window glass if my memory serves?) owing to its position. If I remember rightly, Guisborough and the stop before and after this location were barely legible.

Is Citylink going to be announced by Metro Radio now?

(23 Jul 2015, 8:54 pm)citaro5284 wrote What is your feeling then......

For me: (The Wearsider) for the Gold Mercs Service 36 follows the River Wear quite closely along it route from CLS to Town End Farm, along with crossing it at Monkwearmouth, Likewise Service 35 also follows it to some extent, both services also pass quite a few local landmarks such as Stadium of Light, Monkwearmouth Bridge, Lumley Castle & Durham International Cricket Ground which could be depicted on the Branding, similar to the Toon Link and Revised Black Cats Brands.

As for the Silver Mercs (The Village Miner or The Coal Miner), Quite simply really, the route the 61 serves many Mining Villages such as Ryhope on its way to its terminus of Murton, The 61 also stops close to the Ryhope Engines Museum located on Waterworks Road just off of Stockton Road in Ryhope which would further add meaning to the Brand.

(23 Jul 2015, 9:55 pm)Malarkey wrote For me: (The Wearsider) for the Gold Mercs Service 36 follows the River Wear quite closely along it route from CLS to Town End Farm, along with crossing it at Monkwearmouth, Likewise Service 35 also follows it to some extent, both services also pass quite a few local landmarks such as Stadium of Light, Monkwearmouth Bridge, Lumley Castle & Durham International Cricket Ground which could be depicted on the Branding, similar to the Toon Link and Revised Black Cats Brands.

As for the Silver Mercs (The Village Miner or The Coal Miner), Quite simply really, the route the 61 serves many Mining Villages such as Ryhope on its way to its terminus of Murton, The 61 also stops close to the Ryhope Engines Museum located on Waterworks Road just off of Stockton Road in Ryhope which would further add meaning to the Brand.

I like it Adam. Especially the Wearsider one.

How's about simply "the Villager" ?

(23 Jul 2015, 10:06 pm)tyresmoke wrote How's about simply "the Villager" ?

Think we have bashed the linking of brands between Go North East & Trent Barton a bit to much now.

(23 Jul 2015, 10:06 pm)tyresmoke wrote How's about simply "the Villager" ?

Another trentbarton brand
Nowt wrong with it though. Nice and simple and effective.

(23 Jul 2015, 8:53 pm)Diamond One wrote i have a feeling what they are called but i wanna know ahead of time to let others know

Why? Everyone should find out at the same time.

The Gold Citaros at Deptford are all going to be called Bob.

(23 Jul 2015, 10:59 pm)GMitchelhill wrote The Gold Citaros at Deptford are all going to be called Bob.

Buses used to be called Dennis.

(23 Jul 2015, 9:55 pm)Malarkey wrote For me: (The Wearsider) for the Gold Mercs Service 36 follows the River Wear quite closely along it route from CLS to Town End Farm, along with crossing it at Monkwearmouth, Likewise Service 35 also follows it to some extent, both services also pass quite a few local landmarks such as Stadium of Light, Monkwearmouth Bridge, Lumley Castle & Durham International Cricket Ground which could be depicted on the Branding, similar to the Toon Link and Revised Black Cats Brands.

As for the Silver Mercs (The Village Miner or The Coal Miner), Quite simply really, the route the 61 serves many Mining Villages such as Ryhope on its way to its terminus of Murton, The 61 also stops close to the Ryhope Engines Museum located on Waterworks Road just off of Stockton Road in Ryhope which would further add meaning to the Brand.

I like both idea for the brand names Adam.

(23 Jul 2015, 3:31 pm)R852 PRG wrote How about you have a crack at doing a better job?

I've designed many liveries in the past for various routes which reflect the places served. indiGo seems a bit half-hearted as there's little reference to East Durham, but I understand that the East Durham brand was known as "old rattling buses", so to create a brand that resembles the area without mentioning "East Durham" will be difficult.

Brands like "Crusader" reflect the area history. "The Pitman" (or men) could have been a relevant brand. 

indiGo stinks of Trent Barton, in my opinion.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:13 am)GX03 SVC wrote indiGo stinks of Trent Barton, in my opinion.

And 'Red Arrows' doesn't? Yes Go North East have added an 's' on the end of it but it is still extrememly similar. 
Eventhough i know it is similar to trentbarton, i just let the fact right past me.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:20 am)S813 FVK wrote And 'Red Arrows' doesn't? Yes Go North East have added an 's' on the end of it but it is still extrememly similar. 
Eventhough i know it is similar to trentbarton, i just let the fact right past me.

Black Cats to... when that comes back... although no idea when.............Pronto........both name wise..

(24 Jul 2015, 7:23 am)Michael wrote Black Cats to... when that comes back... although no idea when.............Pronto........both name wise..

Exactly. At the end of the day, it isn't illegal for companies to share a brand name. I suppose it's only enthusiasts who will know that thw brand is remotely similar/the same as a brand elsewhere.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:27 am)S813 FVK wrote Exactly. t the wnd of the day, it isn't illegal for companies to share a brand name. I suppose it's only enthusiasts who will know that thw brand is remotely similar/the same as a brand elsewhere.

Na shouldn't be, if they go with their own idea(s) of how the brands will be... example: GNE Black cats... will be a red base with white and Sunderland landmarks on, where as Trent Barton's is black base with a silver cat.. or that was it last time i seen a updated picture of it.

Pronto is the same.... Blue base here, Trent Bartons is a pink base.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:34 am)Michael wrote Na shouldn't be, if they go with their own idea of how the brands will be... example: GNE Black cats... will be a red base with white and Sunderland landmarks on, where as Trent Barton's is black base with a silver cat.. or that was it last time i seen a updated picture of it.

Pronto is the same.... Blue base here, Trent Bartons is a pink base.

The black cat is still the same as the last time you saw an updated picture of it

It could be argued that Go North East have also stolen the 'Pronto' name from Stagecoach too since they also operate the service using 64 reg E300s (used to be 09 reg MANviros) whereas TrentBarton use 03 reg Solars. I wonder which you would choose...I'd go for the Solars myself.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:40 am)S813 FVK wrote The black cat is still the same as the last time you saw an updated picture of it

It could be argued that Go North East have also stolen the 'Pronto' name from Stagecoach too since they also operate the service using 64 reg E300s (used to be 09 reg MANviros) whereas TrentBarton use 03 reg Solars. I wonder which you would choose...I'd go for the Solars myself.

I didn't even know that Stagecoach had a "pronto" brand haha.

For the Black Cats brand up here i'll have to say solars...because tbh the Cadets and B10's don't have much time left... going to be pointless branding them then withdrawing them and re-branding what ever goes on the routes...if they keep the brand.

I think we'll need a thread for Trent Barton at this rate!

(24 Jul 2015, 7:43 am)Michael wrote I didn't even know that Stagecoach had a "pronto" brand haha.

I think we'll need a thread for Trent Barton at this rate!

Its exactly the same as TrentBarton. Same route - admittedly, Stagecoach do have more control over the service than TrentBarton.

Stagecoach AD Enviro 300 27183 SL64HXS - Mansfield by David Burrell, on Flickr

trentbarton pronto 611 FJ03 VVZ by mattb251, on Flickr

(24 Jul 2015, 7:46 am)S813 FVK wrote Its exactly the same as TrentBarton. Same route - admittedly, Stagecoach do have more control over the service than TrentBarton.

Stagecoach AD Enviro 300 27183 SL64HXS - Mansfield by David Burrell, on Flickr

trentbarton pronto 611 FJ03 VVZ by mattb251, on Flickr

The brand suits both buses, the E300 for me is better

I think the Trent Barton comparisons are quite strange, because although the names are the same, that is really the only comparison. My auntie and uncle live in Tutbury, which is a small village which "The Villager" V1 goes through and that brand is excellent. However, the links to Red Arrows, Black Cats, Pronto are not that strong. As the brands are not that similar.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:40 am)S813 FVK wrote The black cat is still the same as the last time you saw an updated picture of it

It could be argued that Go North East have also stolen the 'Pronto' name from Stagecoach too since they also operate the service using 64 reg E300s (used to be 09 reg MANviros) whereas TrentBarton use 03 reg Solars. I wonder which you would choose...I'd go for the Solars myself.

They still have MAN E300s on the route - what the 5 E300s replaced were 5 MAN E300s that weren't to Pronto specification (leather coach seats). Off topic but fills some gaps in.

Not 100% certain but stagecoach and trent barton share the pronto route, thats why both companies have the same livery. I'd like to see the villager brand used on the 13/14/X25 if they could be interworked.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:23 am)Michael wrote Black Cats to... when that comes back... although no idea when.............Pronto........both name wise..

Isn't Black Cats more linked to Sunderland though?

(24 Jul 2015, 7:58 am)Tom wrote Isn't Black Cats more linked to Sunderland though?

Ye but i was just mentioning some of the brands they had which GNE will/have got same as Trent Barton.

(24 Jul 2015, 7:50 am)LeeCalder wrote I think the Trent Barton comparisons are quite strange, because although the names are the same, that is really the only comparison. My auntie and uncle live in Tutbury, which is a small village which "The Villager" V1 goes through and that brand is excellent. However, the links to Red Arrows, Black Cats, Pronto are not that strong. As the brands are not that similar.

Yeah. If we were getting really really really REALLY desperate for comparisons between the two, we could get to the fact that they use the same system for the route numbers for the Villager (as you mentioned) and Venture with the V1, V2 etc...

No north east customer will complain to the company that the brand is similar to another company and then request a change. A bus to them is a bus. I personally don't have a problem with it but i do tend to notice it just to generate a bit of discussion i guess.

Bus Stops on John Dobson Street - 27th July

http://www.simplygo.com/news/bus-stops-o...-27th-july

Is the X21 gonna be rebranded. ....

What's it gonna be called then!!!

(24 Jul 2015, 10:29 am)pdiddy wrote Is the X21 gonna be rebranded. ....

What's it gonna be called then!!!

Angel (if rumours are to be believed)

(24 Jul 2015, 10:31 am)Jimmi wrote Angel (if rumours are to be believed)

Fat chance of that happening...