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Bus Related Outings and Reviews

Bus Related Outings and Reviews

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(14 Aug 2015, 6:49 pm)Jimmi wrote 1330 X20 Newcastle - Ashington (ANE 7492)
Stupid me, for some reason I thought the X20 left at 1315 for some reason but it actually leaves at 1330, well at least it should do although this journey left a few minutes late. Quite a nice bus inside, the seats were pretty comfortable. Pretty quiet journey, must have been no more than 20 passengers on this journey. Fortunately the few minutes delay was made up and we arrived pretty much on-time.

1443 X20 Ashington - Newcastle (ANE 7491)
After getting a few photos including the Phoenix double decker on the 30 and a quick trip to ASDA to keep out of the rain for a bit and kill a few minutes I made my way for the X20 back to Newcastle. Was kind of hoping for an ALX400 as something different but sadly I got 7491, oh well! I was the only passenger to board in Ashington Bus Station and was the only passenger upstairs until we got further round the route. Was pretty quiet journey again.

So close! I was in Ashington between 1325-1350 and I used the 30.  Big Grin
RE: Bus Related Outings and Reviews
On Saturday I took an exciting trip around Derwentside visiting independent operators. My first bus of the day was East Lancs bodied Scania GNE 6122. This was working the 8.55 X30 from Gateshead to Stanley. This was a good, smooth ride with no problems. I just sat back and enjoyed the views until we arrived at Stanley Church.

My first operating centre of the day was Go North East Limited Stanley depot. I was able to get some good photos here although the position of the Sun caused an issue with shadows in some shots. There were plenty of vehicles in the depot including a number of 1998 Volvo Olympians and 2015 Wrightbus Streetlites. Next I walked over to New College Durham Academies Trust at the North Durham Academy. They operate a single Ford Transit which I could not photograph as the site was secured.

I then followed the path of the old mineral railway down to Mendip Terrace where I visited the Craghead Development Trust Limited. This charity operates a single Mercedes minibus under the fleetname Stanley Community Bus on a Section 19 Permit. Unfortunately the premises were locked up with no vehicles present. I therefore continued onto Lenin Street and visited the premises of Barrett (Connors Minibuses) and was able to get some photos of the 3 Ford Transits present. Next I visited Bowers (Daves Minibuses), which was a short walk away. I again was able get OK photos of the mixed vehicles present. A quick walk brought me to the premises of Batey (Beeline Minibuses) who had a single Fort Transit present.

I had intended to get the 78 to South Moor; however I had 20 minutes wait so I just walked over since it was a nice morning. My initial destination was Charlotte Street, where I visited the premises of former PSV operator Palmer (Mollys Taxis). Mr Palmer still operates minibuses but as taxis which are predominantly wheelchair enabled for contract work. There were 3 Transits present. Around the corner was Mundell Street garage. This is the official operating centre for Connors Minibuses and Beeline Minibuses. However this was locked up at the time of my visit.

G & P Johnson Limited (Nightingale) was my next stop off point. The friendly staff were happy to let me visit the premises. There were over 30 vehicles present including a number of deckers which have been acquired for school contract work. I was able to get some really good photos and spent a good 20 minutes looking around. Mr Johnson is looking for photos of his buses on the road. If any members have any photos available, please could they get in touch with him. I note Nightingale have a presence on the forum so that could be a good contact point.

Wilson at Derwent Rise was my final visit at South Moor. This operator had a single Transit present. However I note from the most recent Notices and Proceedings, his Operators Licence request has just been refused. My next intended step was to take the bus to the top of the bank and walk over to Stanley Travel. I caught the late running 10.43 130 service operated by Optare Solo 651. The driver however deviated from the route given on the most recent Durham County Council Public Transport Map (June 2015) and went to Stanley bus station via the schools at South Moor. This was annoying and passengers wanted to alight but the driver would not let them do so until the bus station was reached. The bus was also crowded being standing room only.

Due to my enforced change of itinerary, I decided to take the 11.00 78 Coast and Country service over to Annfield Plain. This was operated by Streetlite 5399 and was a nice smooth journey. There were however delays at the junction with the South Moor road which might explain the change of route on the 130. At Annfield Plain I walked down to the Durham County Council depot on the site of the former Morrison Busty colliery. The council operates a large fleet of minibuses on a PSV basis. I fully expected to be turned away by security citing reasons of health and safety and insurance etc. However the guard had no objection to me photographing the vehicles present. There were a number of interesting tri-axel Bluebird bodied Volkswagen Transporters and a single Renault Master in the yard.

After some searching I found the premises of 1st Aid Commercials Limited on the Morrison Industrial Estate. This relatively new operator and has a small fleet of Transits. Their garage is around the corner from Olivers Builders Merchants. The lady present at their garage said I was the first enthusiast to visit the yard. I was able to get some photos of the Transits. Mollys Taxis also share the yard and they had another Transit present. However this was being re-sprayed and had no registration details. I also passed the former Classic Coaches depot which was looking rather forlorn.

Gillinghams Coaches was my next stop after walking through the centre of Annfield Plain. They had 10 vehicles present including withdrawn Volvo B10M GIL1792. This plate has since been transferred to Mercedes 0814D Y333GSM. I therefore had the new experience of seeing two very different vehicles with the same registration in the same place. Mrs Gillingham was happy for me to take photos of her family’s fleet. YN59BKO is a new addition being a Mercedes minibus not painted in the usual company livery. I then walked up to North Road Garage, the operating centre of Walker (Greencroft Coaches & Taxis) but there were no vehicles present.

I caught the 12.08 78 over to Consett outside Greencroft School. This was operated by GNE 5401 and again was a good smooth journey. I am beginning to think Streetlites could be my favourite type of contemporary bus. The bus was busy but we still arrived on time. At Consett I alighted outside Villa Real School. This council operated specialist school had two vehicles present, however I could not get any photos as the site was locked up. So I went past the new leisure centre and down to Blackhill. I visited Hope Street garage, the operating centre of Wilson (A W Travel). Unfortunately no vehicles were present despite the garage being open.

St Mary’s church on Derwent Street was my next stop off. The church operates a single non-psv Fiat Ducato for the benefit of local disabled people. The official name of the charity operating the minibus is The Diocese Of Hexham And Newcastle Catholic Handicapped Fellowship (Consett Group), quite a mouthful! Talking of mouthfuls I was now feeling a bit peckish so I sat in the sunny and quiet churchyard and had a quick snack of an apple and crisps. The church lies next to the premises of Burns (Kaydar Services). This PSV operator runs a fleet of 6 minibuses (mainly Ivecos) in connection with it’s business as a provider of daycare services to vulnerable adults. I was unable to enter the premises, but could get a good view from the churchyard of their fleet.

The weather being good, I decided to explore the site the former steelworks and took a walk along the former railway which forms part of the Derwent Walk. I headed across the former steelworks site with stunning views of the Derwent Valley. After about 15 pleasant minutes walk I arrived at the Emmaus Youth Village. This is owned by a Christian charity, the Youth Ministry Trust. The charity held a Section 19 Permit, however the staff confirmed to me that they no longer own any vehicles. After this slight disappointment I walked into Consett town centre. On the way I passed Derwentside College. The college used to operate a small minibus fleet but no vehicles are currently owned following the transfer of the college to a single site.

At Consett I did a bit spotting in and around the bus station. I got plenty of photos of Venture branded solos and Red Kite branded Streetlites. It being a Saturday, no Weardale Motor Services vehicles were running and GNE was the sole operator using the bus station. I caught Solo 647 on 14.15 V1 service to Delves Lane. This was my quietest bus of the day there being only 3 passengers using the service. All 3 of us alighted at the same stop. I then passed the residence of Wilson (A W Travel), but no vehicles were present at this location either. I headed over wasteland to the industrial estate. My first port of call was the Weardale Motor Services Limited depot. However this was completely empty and looked as though it is no longer in use. This was a disappointment as I was hoping to get some photos of their deckers which are used on school contracts. Undeterred, I crossed the road and visited Croft Business Services (UK) Limited (Croft Taxis). There were 3 minibuses present and I was able to get good photos. The staff present were fine about my visit.

Walking back upto Delves Lane, I caught the 14.52 15A service to Lanchester. This was operated by Volvo B7 6014. I was able to get the front seat above the driver, always a bonus. I alighted near St Bede's Catholic Academy (Lanchester) and was able to photograph their single Ford Transit. Transits seem to be very popular on Derwentside at the moment! After a relaxing lunch on the village green, I decided to head to Burnhope. There was nearly 40 minutes to wait for the next bus there so I walked up the hill and through corn fields and woods. I breathlessly arrived at Burnhope and admired the view of the valley below me. I then took a short stroll to The Haven. This daycentre and surgery is operated by a charitable company, North West Durham Rural Community Care Limited. They have a single wheelchair enabled Iveco minibus running on a non-psv basis using a Section 19 Permit.

Burnhope was nice in sunshine but I noted that the building housing the library had been demolished and the village pub is now a private dwelling. I wondered how the locals felt about this loss of services. I set off along the road to New Warlands Farm. This farm has been purchased by a major local mental health charity, the North East Autism Society. The estate retains a working farm of some 80 or so acres but has also been developed as field study and residential centre. It is one of a number of facilities owned by the charity. The charity holds a number of Section 19 Permits for minibus operation. There were only a small number of midibuses present at the time of my visit however. A public footpath runs through the estate and I followed this to Charlaw.

I remembered there was a nice pub at Charlaw with a good view of valley. So I decided to stop off for a quiet pint before catching my next bus. Unfortunately the pub had closed and is now a private house. This was distressing and I was thirsty! I therefore caught GNE 3822 operating the 16.53 43 service. This vehicle is about 17 years old and was clearly showing its age. It shook and rattled all the way to Craghead and over to South Moor. When it stopped I was nearly thrown down the stairs. I was glad to be off this bus, despite some of the journey’s scenery being pleasant.

Alighting at South Moor with a sense of deja-vu, I headed along the old railway line to Stanley Travel (North East) Limited. Their yard was quite full with many deckers parked up at the rear. I was able to get some good photos, including a decker on lifting gear. There also a number of minibuses and midibuses present. Next I visited the premises of Duncan at Pea Road. This new PSV operator has a single Transit (what is it with Transits in this part of the world!) and specialises in airport work. My final operator of the day was Dalton (KD Taxis) based at Spen Street near Stanley bus station. Guess what vehicles this operator had? That’s right, Transits, one of them is a recently acquired 16 seater and looks very smart in a silver and grey livery. I was able to get some OK photos of this vehicle.

It was now nearly 17.30 so I hurried across to the bus station and caught my last bus of the day back to Gateshead, this was Scania 6129 operating the 17.29 X30. The last 3 passengers were queuing to get on when I made it to the stand after a dash across the bus station apron. This journey was pleasant and uneventful and we arrived back at Gateshead on time. Later, I told my partner all about my day but she just looked at me and wondered how anyone could get so excited about tri-axel minibuses! Guess I will never make an enthusiast out of her! It was a good day despite a couple of disappointments. I would do this trip again but would try and include Hunters of Tantobie if possible.

Hope you enjoyed the review.

Charles
RE: Bus Related Outings and Reviews
Had a great day out in Durham yesterday, only the five journeys, so I'll put my Sunday trip on at the start as well to bulk the review up a bit,

Sunday 16th
15.12 X18 Berwick Rail Station to Morpeth Bus Station ANE 7532
I arrived in Berwick about 3PM, and made my way to the train station to catch my usual 15.12 X18 back down to Morpeth. It should arrive from it's northbound journey around 15.07, but generally arrives a minute or two early. At 10 past, it still hadn't arrived, so I had a look at the Live Map to find it was approximately 8 minutes late. A few minutes later, I heard 7532 power around the corner and down the bank, I sat upstairs at the front, and we left about 6 minutes late, falling further behind as we made our way through Berwick. Out of Berwick, and after Scremerston, 7532 absolutely flew, keeping up with cars with ease on the A1. By Seahouses, even though we picked up a good 20 passengers at Bamburgh, we were pretty much back on time. Unbelievably impressed at how this handled the hills, and tight bends on this route, much like all of this batch, it seems to have an incredible amount of power. Drivers changed at Alnwick, and due to some idiotic car drivers in Alnmouth, we started to run late. We were quickly in Morpeth, after a thoroughly enjoyable journey. I got picked up by a friend, as 7532 made it's way down to Newcastle.

Monday 17th
10.38 X22 Bedlington Market Place to Newcastle Haymarket ANE 7505
I headed to Durham on Monday morning with a good friend of mine, so I'd managed to get a lift to Bedlington to catch the X22 to Newcastle. 7505 was my ride, it turned up about 5 minutes late, but I was very impressed with it, especially it's performance on the A1068 and the A1 where it performed very well indeed. The plugs weren't working which was a slight disappointment, as I needed to charge my phone, however the company more than made up for that Big Grin It was a pretty comfortable journey, temperature wise especially, considering how hot it was outside. For a journey that would have left Ashington at around 10, it was very busy, especially downstairs, which was quite good to see. We arrived in Newcastle bang on time, before we headed to Eldon Square to board the 11.20 X12 to Durham, hoping anything but a Gemini turned up, I kept a look out while walking from Haymarket...

11.20 (11.27) X12 Newcastle Eldon Square to Durham Bus Station ANE 1415 
Nothing showed in the short walk between the bus station, and as 11.20 approached, it looked increasingly unlikely that, whatever was meant to turn up, wasn't going to turn up on time... 20 past came and went, but just before 25 past a Pulsar pulled up at the traffic lights, YES!! I was spared, at least until the afternoon, from death by Gemini. 1415 was my chariot, and on the whole I was very impressed by it's performance, although there was a loud squeeling noise while accelerating up to speed, however as it reached anything over about 40, this went away. As we entered Gateshead Interchange, the various GNE liveries got my attention, but some brands really did puzzle me, such as ""Fab Fifty Six" I can't help but think a corporate livery with some simple route branding would serve better, than pointless brands just for the sake of it- which is what it looks like from the outside, in my opinion anyway. The 'TTX' does look very smart though, it's been quite a long time since I've seen it in the flesh, and is still very eye catching. As we moved further toward Durham, I noticed a lot of 'Angel' branded B5's, I never realised how frequent the 21 was! Loving the 'Angel' livery as well. 1415 pulled into Durham bus station at 12.15, bang on time.

Walking off 1415, into the bus station, my initial impression was "why have I came here", the bus station, and the street immediately off it, until the bridge next to the shopping centre, reminded me of Ashington and Blyth. Across the bridge however, was a completely different story, having only ever visited this side of the river in all of the times I've been to Durham, bar once quite a few years ago now, it was lovely and what I remembered Durham was like!

16.21 X12 Durham Bus Station to Newcastle Eldon Square ANE 7618

As we walked back into the bus station, after a thoroughly enjoyable time in Durham, we checked to see which stand the X12 departed from, 'A' was the answer, as there were buses occupying the adjacent stands, it was hard to see what our vehicle was, praying it wasn't a Gemini, we walked up, and 7618 stood in stand A Sad There were about 10 people already queueing, and we departed at 16.21. This trip seemed to go far faster than the journey down, and 7618 seemed to cope with the route very well indeed, lacking that bit of acceleration in places, but on the whole it was okay, there were a few things that annoyed me, and I'm not sure if it's just me, but I'm not really a fan of the interior of any Wright Gemini, compared to an E400 anyway, it just doesn't seem as well put together. We arrived in Newcastle late, meaning that as we pulled up to the traffic lights opposite Haymarket, 7504 left on the 17.19 X21, meaning a 20 minute wait for me.

17.39 X21 Newcastle Haymarket to Stakeford(?) ANE 7528
After missing the 7504 on the 17.19, a 20 minute wait for 7528 followed, 7506 was leaving on an X22 as we arrived at the bus station. Seconds after 7506 passed through the traffic lights, 7528 pulled into the stand. 7470 pulled into the adjacent stand on an X20, which we followed through Gosforth, until we turned off to go through Wide Open and Seaton Burn, with it going for the A1, which I think may have been the better bet, as we got stuck in traffic through Wide Open, cars clearly avoiding the A1, which looked to be quite clear through a break in the trees. Running 7-8 minutes late at Seaton Burn roundabout, we were only 2 late by Bedlington, which is credit to the driver and 7528, it didn't half shift, reminding me on why I'm a fan of these E400's. We got off at Stakeford, (I think, can't fully remember the stop name), and said goodbye.

18.53 X21 Stakeford to Bedlington Red Lion ANE 7522
After saying goodbye, I waited for my bus back to Bedlington, for my lift home. As my phone had ran out of juice by this point, I had no clue where it was, and had about 10 minutes waiting at a place I've never caught a bus from before. It showed up on time from what I could tell, and 7522 was my last ride of the day. A fairly uneventful journey, but I find these Enviro's very nice places to be, I'd sooner spend a day on one of these than one of those VDL Gemini's, from the lighting, to the colour scheme and general materials used. The plugs weren't working on this one either, where's 7524 when you need it!! I got off at Bedlington, to end an incredible day

Thank you for reading, hope I didn't bore you to death midway through, may be heading out again on Saturday, so I'll try and get another review done then if this one is okay, again cheers for reading!! Big Grin
RE: Bus Related Outings and Reviews
Guess I'll give you the review of my outing today.

0932 7 Newton Aycliffe - Durham Bus Station (ANE 1523)
Starting off the day with 1523, was pretty quiet when I boarded but sadly this didn't last as a large number of passengers jumped on at Chilton Wheatsheaf with a fair few more boarding at Ferryhill Market Place which annoyingly meant someone had to sit next to me for the remainder of the journey. Also when I jumped on two people were having a make out session at the back of the bus and I overheard them taking the mick out of the woman who nearly always boards this journey, chav scum!

1030 15A Durham Bus Station - Consett Bus Station (GNE 3830)
Quickly ran out of the Bus Station for a few photos which sadly all turned out terrible due to the position of the sun but I saw this entering the bus station so my mind was made up as to what I was going to do, yep a trip up to Consett. No-one else was wanting the 15A as I got to stand C so I had my pick of all the seats on the bus and I chose the obvious decision, the front seat upstairs on the drivers side of course! It's still hard to believe these are nearly now 17 years old now and they still perform fairly well although this isn't the best I've been on, that honour goes to it's sister 3831. Anyway back to today this was a pretty quiet journey especially upstairs where I think there was only me, an older man and another young lad. Before we knew it we arrived at Consett.

1125ish X71 Consett Bus Station - Burnhopefield Co-Op (GNE 6122)
This detour caused by 3830 gave me a problem as I was originally intended to head to the MetroCentre and the obvious way of getting there was to get the 45/46 but I didn't like the thought of spending around an hour on a StreetLite so I jumped on this instead. Another pretty quiet and I sat behind the staircase upstairs as there is a fair amount of legroom here. This performed pretty good including on the hills and was pretty smooth and quiet. I thought about getting off at Gateshead then get a bus to the MetroCentre but then I had a brainwave so I checked what times the 43 left Burnhopefield and I had roughly 10 minutes wait so I made the decision to alight here.

1159 43 Burnhopefield Co-Op - MetroCentre Bus Station (GNE 5288)
Diamond 5288 came thundering up the road bang on-time. Fortunately it was pretty quiet when I jumped on so I had a fair few choices of where to sit and thankfully my usual seat was unoccupied so I sat there (so predicable!). This preformed the route well and was an abundance of power and was comfortable, as I managed to get the seat where the legroom isn't reduced by the large air-con/heater is. The journey picked up more passengers as it got closer to the MetroCentre and we got there pretty much on-time which was great as I wanted a photo of the Mellor Fiat Bluebird on the Gateshead Central Taxis service 643.

1233 46? MetroCentre Bus Station - Newcastle, Clayton Street (GNE 5412)
Sadly didn't totally manage to avoid the StreetLite's today. Thankfully this example wasn't too bad, the emergency exit door didn't even rattle. Only real downside on this journey was it was rather stuffy especially with only two of the three windows open (three windows on StreetLite's, seriously!) alighted at Clayton Street outside Poundstretcher. Can't remember if this was on the 45 or 46.

Took some photos around Newcastle mainly around the Market Street and Grainger Street areas as I was wanting a shot of the freshly branded "The Crusader" 5330 but sadly a long time had passed and it still hadn't turned up by about 1350 so I made my way down towards Haymarket Bus Station as I thought the X18 was going to be a Sapphire Enviro 400 although Sapphire base liveried 1527 turned up instead, oh well! I did fear that 5330 would leave whilst I was at Haymarket but I made my way back down towards Market Street where I saw Bazza and someone else and waited in the hope 5330 was going to appear and thankfully it did. After getting my photo of 5330 I said left Bazza and headed to Newgate Street to catch the X21 back to Durham. Whilst waiting for the X21 I thought some woman was going to have my eye out with some plastic curtain rail thankfully this didn't happen.

1437 X21 Newcastle, Newgate Street - Durham Bus Station (GNE 6040)
As I saw the President come up the road I just thought "oh dear, here comes my underpowered steed back to Durham with the uncomfortable seats" although was surprised to see this example has the seats found in most of the ex London Presidents instead of the large chunky seats most of the Pronto branded examples have. Was even more surprised to find this example actually has some power. don't get me wrong it didn't exactly fly down the A1(M) but it's certainly the best I've seen a Pronto liveried President go down here recently. A few rattles and a few other noises of course but not too bad, certainly a much nicer bus than 6038 was the other day.

1537 7 Durham Bus Station - Newton Aycliffe (ANE 1516)
This was a pretty horrendous journey, it was another pretty busy journey so there was little choice of places to sit so I ended up sat near the back and at the back of this bus were three lads who feel the need to shout to each other despite being right next to each other and then there was the content of their conversations which was totally unsuitable for all the passengers to hear especially children and it seemed like every other word was the F-word and one of them kept "singing" along with that fast paced rap crap. Managed to keep my cool until thankfully they got off at Ferryhill Market Place, annoyingly the Sapphire WiFi decided to jump off here as well as at this point it was coming back with "WiFi limit exceeded. please try again later" this seems to be a new feature and annoyingly I always seem to exceed the limit now and it annoyingly applies to all Sapphire buses as it's happened when I've got a 7 to Durham then later jumped on the 22 although the Sapphire Enviro 400s seem to have the standard Icomera screen with Arriva logo so I don't exceed the limit on these. Hope they don't do the same for MAX as I would be a little annoyed if I got a X66 to Middlesbrough then the X93 to Whitby/Scarborough and exceed the limit before we reach Guisborough. Okay I've gone on a bit of a tangent here so back to this journey, was pleased to have the scum at the back of the bus off so I settled back and relaxed for the remainder of the journey home.

Anyway, thanks for reading this review, it's being a mixed day although I just about managed not to get wound up although I did it a bit annoyed trying to snake round all the people in Eldon Square. Unsure when my next outing is going to be yet.
RE: Bus Related Outings and Reviews
Well, here it goes...

This is just a short review for me but I suppose considering how often I do actually use public transport outside of school, its quite big.

Virgin Trains East Coast 91129 Berwick-upon-Tweed (departing 10:38) to Edinburgh Waverley (arriving 11:22)
We arrived at the station at about 10:25 - just as a CrossCountry service north pulled into the station. We purchased our tickets, which only came to around £38 (with a family railcard - don't know how much it would have been without one), and made our way up to the platform. The CrossCountry train was departing just as we were coming down to the platform so we had effectively 'missed' that train eventhough the plan was, from the start, to go for the 10:38 (announced as 10:39 by station staff) departure which we had no choice but to do. While waiting, I noticed the dispatcher walking up the platform and noticed that, despite wearing the Virgin Trains name badge, she was still wearing the East Coast purple uniform. It wasn't until then to which I realised that pretty much all staff was still wearing the old uniform - the new uniform obviously hasn't arrived yet. Anyway, the train arrived bang on time at 10:35 and departed at 10:38 and was a full VTEC liveried set. When I got on, I made sure I sat on the side of the train that was on the platform as that is the side where you can really capture the breathtaking views along the coast. It didn't take long for the train to build up speed and race along the stunning coast. I'd say it only took about 10-15 minutes to get into Scotland to which we got a nice welcome from the train guard. We stormed past Dunbar and after that, it was pretty much another 20 minutes before we arrived in Edinburgh. Quite surprised to get out of the station without having to go through a ticket barrier which I thought was very unusual for a major station but with us just walking up one of the ramps which lead onto Waverley Bridge directly opposite the Airlink 100 stand (which I should comment that the new buses look absolutely fantastic!) 

The first thing we wanted to do is have something to eat so we went into the Princes Mall which is attatched to the station and found the Subway that we had used last year and just ate them in the big seating area in the middle of the 'food hall'. Finally, we discussed what we had planned to do before coming up and decided that rather than getting the 22 or any other service that goes to Ocean Terminal, we'd get the tour bus there instead as it is something we had never done before. 

Lothian Buses (T/A Edinburgh Bus Tours) Dennis Trident Plaxton President 527 (V527 ESC) Waverley Bridge (departing 12:00) to Ocean Terminal (arriving 12:28) 
We found the board which had all the prices up and the separate prices for us 3 added together actually equalled the price of a family ticket - £33. We boarded, got the ticket and went upstairs to which we found an elderly couple already there. We had, of course picked up our free earphones to plug into the bus to listen to the free audioguide which was absolutely fantastic and was quite good at how it kept to time with the bus. Didn't seem to jump ahead if we got stuck in traffic or at a set oft raffic lights. It could, of course, been controlled by GPS meaning that the audio couldn't move on until we were at a certain point. Managed to locate Edinburgh Bus Station too after god knows how many years i have spent looking. It didn't take long for us (well, me in particular) to realise how annoying the elderly couple actually was (they were american!). I'm sure they are lovely people but I do think the personality of all Americans are somewhat over dramatic and slightly annoying. Anyway, the bus reached The Botanic Gardens where few people alighted but quite a few boarded which created a bit of a problem at the stairs. People were trying to go down and alight while people who boarded were going up and everything just came to a complete standstill. Anyway, that soon cleared and we soon reached the next main stop, Ocean Terminal which is the home of the Royal Yacht Britannia, decommissioned in 1997. Like most people, we alighted at this stop.

We entered the building to find that it was a complete shopping centre and that the Royal Yacht Britannia is just a 'shop' which leads out to a boat itself. I'd recommend going to visit it to anybody - well worth it even if it isn't the sort of thing people are interested in. Took us between 1 hour and 1 hour 30 minutes (possibly longer) following the tour path and listening to the free audio guide which was very detailed and made the experience much better as opposed to stopping and reading boards of information. Speeds the process up a lot and saves 'traffic jams' being caused as you are waiting for others to finish reading what you want to read which spoils the whole thing. At least with the free audio guide, you can do the tour at your own pace. Once we finished the tour, we had a look around the shopping centre in more detail and I loved it - mainly because I wasn't expecting coming to see the Britannia and finding that it is next to a shopping centre. After we'd finished in there, we went back out to restart (and finish) the tour.

Lothian Buses (T/A Edinburgh Bus Tours) Dennis Trident Plaxton President 526 (V526 ESC) Ocean Terminal (departing 14:32) to Market Street (arriving 15:05)
We hadn't been waiting long when our bus came around the corner. I was hoping that it wasn't 527 again and it wasn't. As the American couple from earlier also boarded our bus, we decided this time to sit as far away from them as we possibly could and that is exactly what we did. Annoyingly the driver did pull away from the stop before I had a chance to plug my earphones back in to listen to the rest of the tour but i managed to get them in before the continuation of the tour started (when the woman said "if you've just boarded the bus, welcome back") and we continued through Leith before reentering the main city on the Royal Mile (Canongate),South Bridge and Bank Street before terminating on Market Street, around the corner from Waverley Bridge. Oversll, it was a fantastic tour and was well worth the £33 family ticket that we paid for the tour. The commentary was phenomenal and uncovered a lot about Edinburgh that I didn't know previously and saw parts of the city which I had never seen before.

We alighted the bus and headed towards the shops on Princes Street snd beyond. We crossed the road and walked along looking for any shops which looked to sell bags big enough for the small casket which holds my dogs ashes (can't go on a 'holiday' if you'd call being 2 hours away from home a holiday and leave her at home - especially as we are staying at the site where she last spent any major time with us) as we appear to have lost the other one we bought at Scarborough (or thrown away when we sorted our walk in cupboard out in the living room). No luck. We found some backs that were the right width but unfortunately, they were all too shallow. We carried on walking along when we realised that there is a street behind Princes Street with all sorts of shops. It was just a coincidence that we were about to walk up a street with the road closed because Lothian Gemini 807 (SN56 AFV) had been involved in an incident with a pedestrian. While the pedestrian was no longer at the scene (which is good - I didn't really want to walk up a street and see an injured person lying on the floor), it was quite clear as to what had happened and rather than some people who were literally glaring at the bus, I just glanced, saw that all that needed doing to the vehicle from a repair perspective was to fit a new windscreen (as it was cracked) but obviously it will need to be kept out of service for a few days for investigative purposes. Anyway, we carried on walking down this street, continuously looking for a bag and when we got to the end, turned left, back along the section of Princes Street which we had not covered, back up and along the second half of the street, again, the section that we had not covered. By this point, it had started to rain, not heavily but we could all start to feel raindrops falling on our heads (desperate not to start bursting into song there haha! Big Grin) Once we'd finished there, we walked down to St James' Shopping Centre on Leith Street (just off Princes Street and Waterloo Place) and had a look around there. While walking there, we saw 807 (SN56 AFV), which had been involved in the incident on George Street earlier in the day, being towed along Waterloo Place presumably back to its home depot and when exiting the shopping centre, I glanced over onto Leith Street and saw a Stanley Travel coach which later revealed itself to be TX63 STX which had been off the road for quite a while having repairs done to it following the incident it was involved in earlier in the year. Time was getting on so we decided to go and get the 18:05 train back down to Berwick but before that, as we had over 30 minutes before the train, we had one proper look around the Princes Mall next to the station where we had got our Subways at the start of the day. After that, we made our way to the Station to find which platform our train would be departing from.

CrossCountry 221127 Edinburgh Waverley (departing 18:05) to Berwick-upon-Tweed (arriving 18:53)
Again, even going into the station through one of the main entrances, we still managed to get onto the main platforms without having to go through any ticket barriers which surprised me quite a lot considering that Waverley is one of the main stations on the UK rail network. Anyway, we found our train on the information boards and discovered that it would be departing from Platform 2. I looked at the board and discovered that it was a service to Birmingham New Street. I immediately knew from there that it was a CrossCountry train. Like the VTEC service coming up, it arrived on time. When I boarded, I walked past a toilet which had its door open. Wasn't the most pleasant smell. We quickly found a table seat which I was surprised at, especially as the service had come from Glasgow. The was somebody already sitting at the seat but she kindly let us sit down and just after we started moving after stopping at Dunbar, we all engaged in a very nice discussion. Especially as she was from Newcastle and she was on her way home from Glasgow after being their for work. She also mentioned how her husband worked for the Tyne and Wear Metro but I just let that one go Tongue The train was much quieter on the inside compared to the journey on north on the 91 and we, again, sat on the side which captured the stunning views of the coastline north of Berwick. Although the toilets were quite smelly, the quality of the ride was much better than the 91 - probably down to being a younger train. Anyway, we said our goodbyes at Berwick as us 3 headed off back to the car which we had parked in the main car park as opposed to the railway station as it was free there (saving money, eh Smile)

Overall, we did loads more yesterday than we had ever done before in Edinburgh and we were all absolutely knackered. I could even start to feel my legs giving way but we managed fine. Really enjoyed the whole day, more than I thought I would. Thank you for reading! Forgot to type it up last night so did it quickly this morning and as I did it on my ipad, there may be a few spelling errors. Apologies if there are and let me know if you spot any for me to correct Smile
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This Thursday I had a very interesting bus tour of South East Northumberland. The weather was looking good. I did not have a definite plan for the day and just decided to take the first bus that came along. I left Newcastle Haymarket on Arriva 7490 a Wright bodied Volvo B7 taking the 8.48 service 43 to Seaton Burn. The journey was fine with no issues. The bus was relatively quiet and I got a good seat upstairs.

At Seaton Burn I visited the Brenkley Way yard belonging to the Rush family. Various members of the family operate a number of coach companies all based at the same premises. These are KJS Travel Limited, Newcastle Taxis Limited and North East Coach Travel Limited. John Rush also has an operators licence in his own name. I obtained permission to look around and take photos from one of the family members. The yard was pretty full and I got good photos of the many kinds of vehicles present. The staff in the garage were friendly and helpful. The yard is also home to a number of smaller operators. These are Kingston Park Coaches LLP, Mark Rayner (JM Travel) and Helpmego.To Limited. I was able to get photos of all of these operators’ vehicles. Helpmego.To Limited operates the party bus which you can see in Newcastle near the Bigg Market on a Saturday night.

After thanking the staff at Rushes I headed to Seaton Burn College which is ran by a charity, the North Tyneside Learning Trust. The college operates single Peugot Boxer on a Section 19 Permit. The North Tyneside Learning Trust operates approximately 15 minibuses based at various academies and colleges on North Tyneside. At the college there were lots of students going to get their GCSE results. They mainly looked nervous on the way in. You could tell by their faces on the way out how they had done. I cannot remember getting my GCSE results, it was 25 years ago!

I did not have to wait long for my next bus, which was Arriva 7445, another Volvo but with Alexander body work. This was a short journey and I was on this 43 service for less than 5 minutes. I alighted at Dudley and crossed over the road to wait for my next bus. This was an Alexander bodied Volvo B10 4522 operating the 53 service. There were more people on this bus, mainly pensioners. The journey again was short (less than 10 minutes) and I alighted at Annitsford.

At Annitsford I visited both garages owned by members of the Cooper family. A brief family history is that William Cooper (a miner) had two sons, George Parker Cooper (1894-1975) and Henry Cooper (1900-1963) along with other children. George Parker Cooper and Henry Cooper were in partnership together for a time as bus and coach proprietors. George Parker Cooper had two sons who followed him into the coaching business, George William Cooper 1921-1977 and Henry Cooper 1937-.

Two of George William Cooper’s children also entered the bus and coach industry. These are John Cooper (1958-) and James Cooper (1961-). Henry Cooper (1900-1963) had a daughter named Lily. Lily married Norman Garwin Greaves (1922-1988), their son William Graham Greaves now runs Henry Cooper Coaches at Annitsford. James Cooper and his wife run James Cooper & Son (Tyneside) Limited which is also Annitsford based. His elder brother, John Cooper runs Kittybrewster based Coopers Tourmaster Travel Limited and Tourmaster Travel Limited. The extended Cooper family run in the region of 50 PSVs via their various companies. They also have haulage interests.

I visited the garage of James Cooper & Son first of all. They had 10 vehicles present in total. These included a number of Irizar bodied Scania luxury coaches which looked very smart. The garage also contained some interesting withdrawn stock at the rear including a 1989 Alexander bodied Scania N113 and 1982 Duple bodied Volvo B10. I was able to get good photos and the staff were fine about my visiting both garages. Unfortunately I could not photograph the Scania decker as it was parked behind a HGV. Next I headed across to the main garage of Henry Cooper. This branch of the family has a number of AEC Routemasters and I was hoping to get some photos of these. There were no Routemasters in the main garage but I was able to get good photos of the family’s very smart coaches and buses in the yard. The garage building itself was closed though. Also present were Robinson (Abacus Travel) who owns a single Mercedes 0816 and Explore4All Limited. This new company owns two Ford Transits and a very smart looking Mercedes coach. Their vehicles all have been reregistered with an EX prefix. The livery is a very attractive silver and blue on a white background. Again I was able to get good photos of these vehicles. I then went to the filling station part of Henry Cooper’s premises. To my delight there was a Routemaster undergoing maintenance over the pit along with a Plaxton bodied Volvo B10M. I was able to take some OK photos of the Routemaster from the garage forecourt.

After a short wait I caught Arriva Optare 2834 operating the 10.22 53 service to Cramlington. This was a really busy bus and there were very few seats. Luckily I was only on this service for a short time. I alighted at Southfield near the Education Village. I visited the premises of new minibus operator Phillips (Crown Travel). Unfortunately there were no vehicles present. I therefore jumped on the first bus into Cramlington. This was a Wright DB300 (7624) operating the X10. This was a comfortable but short journey. I alighted at Eastfield and visited Cramlington Kids Club. This charity owns a single minibus, but it was not present at their premises. I therefore took a short walk to the registered operating centre of Reed (Target Taxis) on Kettering Place. No vehicles were present for this operator. I was hoping this was not going to be a trend.

I boarded another DB300 (7615) operating the 11.12 X11 back to Parkside, this was another short journey of only 3 stops. It was a very warm day and I did not want to overdo the walking! I alighted near Shanklee School. This primary has a Section 19 minibus licence; again to my dismay no vehicles were present. Nor were there any vehicles present at the nearby Helen McArdle care home. This care home business has a PSV o-licence. They have just purchased a new wheelchair adapted Transit for their Gateshead home. I headed towards the town centre. On the way I visited Hillcrest School who operate a single Iveco minibus and Cramlington Youth Project Limited, a charity with a single Ford Transit.

At the town centre shops I boarded the 11.37 57A service operated by Arriva Dart 1775. This service seemed to be full of complaining old ladies including an obese grandmother who was shouting like mad at her little grandson all the way. I alighted at Cramlington railway station after a few stops with a headache coming on. I therefore decided to walk slowly across recreation land to Nelson Village and the garage of Mullen (Adamsons Coaches).  Mr Mullen was fine about me taking photos. He has a fleet of 3 coaches all with Van Hool bodywork. Also based here is Warwick (Warwick Travel) who operates a single Mercedes minibus in all over white livery and Miller (Millers of Seaton Sluice) who has a single Van Hool bodied DAF

Next I visited the garage of Target Taxis. This is a short walk over a field from Adamsons Coaches on the South Nelson Industrial Estate. There were 8 minibuses and midibuses at the garage which comprises two rented industrial units located back to back. LDVs are the most common type of vehicle operated but Mercedes midibuses are also owned. The LDVs mainly seemed to run on taxi plates, being wheelchair adapted for school contract work. Their livery is a white background with blue and red vinyls depicting a target motif. They looked rather good and the livery suited them well.

My next destination was the Admiral Business Park located on the Nelson Industrial Estate. It took me about 10 minutes to walk there and it well worth it. After passing through the security gate at the front of the estate I visited Green Mountain Travel Limited. I obtained permission from company founder and majority shareholder Tracy Thorpe to take photos. This fleet is very smartly presented and the vehicles are in immaculate condition. The company recently increased its o-licence to 15 vehicles based at the Business Park. There were 12 vehicles present including two stunning King Longs. Also at the garage were a number of Renault Masters and various Mercedes minibuses and coaches. I took my time and got really good photos of this company’s vehicles.

After leaving GMT I walked to the top of the Business Park and visited Parkside Travel Limited. They are located right at the back of industrial estate. There were 4 Mercedes minicoaches and a number of midibuses present. The staff were fine about me taking photos and I was able to get good shots of the Mercedes vehicles. I also noted a Citroen Relay nearby which belonged to the Ashington Learning Partnership. This organisation operates two schools in Ashington. These are the High School (which is currently being rebuilt) and Milburn Road Primary. The primary school has an old Olympian which is used as a classroom situated in it’s playground.

I then walked to Fisher Lane with the intention of jumping on the first bus to arrive. This was Alexander Dennis Trident 7502 on the X22. I took this bus to the centre of Bedlington. It was a good fast journey with no screaming old ladies to get on my nerves. At Bedlington I had my lunch and explored the town centre. After lunch I visited the premises of Kennedy’s Minicoaches (two transits present), Coach 42 (Robson, one Mercedes minibus) and then Craiggs who had a single Van Hool bodied DAF at their new operating centre by the Vulcan Garage. I remember visiting this location in the 1980s to see independent bus operator Raisbeck (now long gone). Raisbecks used to operate a local service in Bedlington and had fleet of 3 vehicles including an East Lancs bodied Volvo B7. This was the only one of its type in the UK I believe. Vulcan Garage was also home of Jordan’s Coaches in the 1980s, they used to operate a fleet of Bedford Ys on miners contracts. Jordan’s and the pit at Ashington are both no more.

The 14.03 service number 2 to Morpeth was my next bus. This was operated by 29 seater Dart 1765. This bus was on time despite being quite busy. I was only on a short tine and then alighted at the Swan pub near Choppington. From here I walked over to the Barrington Industrial Estate which is located on an old colliery site. The first operator I visited was youth training charity Choysez which runs 3 Transits on a Section 19 Permit. I photographed these on the road outside their premises. I then set off to find Robertson (Astley Coaches).

At this point a young guy in his early twenties who was visibly out of shape came bounding up to me and demanded to know why I was photographing the Choysez minibuses. I started to explain I was an enthusiast however he had turned bright red in the face and began panting for breath. I was very concerned, I thought he might collapse. Thankfully after a while he caught his breath and started to recover. We had a good chat about bus enthusiasm as a hobby. He was very surprised as he had never met an enthusiast before. When I saw he was OK I headed towards Astley’s yard. This yard was locked up and there were 4 vehicles present. It did not take long to find. It was most surprising to see an open topped former London Buses 1984 MCW Metrorider in Bedlington! The other vehicles were 3 Mercedes Minibuses, only 1 of which appeared to be in use. I then passed the yard of minibus operator Hoggan (Seaton Sluice Limosines) but only limos were present.

After about 5 minutes walk towards Bedlington Station I passed the premises of Gatis (A2B Travel). This minibus operator is located in the Binks Yard. There was an LDV and a midibus present. However I could not get details of the midibus due to a thick hedge surrounding the premises. There was also a preserved 1975 Devon General Bristol LH in the yard, KTT42P. After arriving at Bedlington Station (which looked scary) I headed towards Bedlingtonshire Community High School. This council run school has a Section 19 Permit for a single minibus, however no vehicles were present.

I did not want to hang about in Bedlington Station; it reminded me of pictures of Tripoli after an air strike. There were chavas hanging around with cans of booze in their hands. Luckily Dennis Dart 1758 arrived operating the 14.55 number 1 to Blyth. This service was well used and we passed the Coopers garage at Kittybrewster before heading over the bridge towards Blyth. I alighted at the first stop in Blyth and walked the short distance to Bebside. Readypay Limited (Phoenix) has a small garage at Bebside. There was a single Nexus liveried Optare present undergoing maintenance.    

I then walked to the new Blyth Academy which also houses the local library. They have a single LDV minibus which has the fleetname Vibe. I was surprised to see there were no bus stops on this housing development; I would have thought Arriva would have a service to visiting the new estate. I then headed towards Premier Bus & Coach Limited on the Kittybrewster Industrial Estate. There were plenty of vehicles present which I was able to spot. However when I knocked at the office, it was empty. I therefore did not want to hang around the premises taking photos without permission.

Phoenix Coaches was my next goal; I walked part of way along the old mineral railway which is now being prepared for a housing development. Phoenix’s yard on Albion Way had 4 deckers present. I had spotted one of their deckers previously in Ashington working the 30 service. I did not think they had so many of them. There over 20 vehicles in their yard ranging from the deckers to midibuses. I was hoping to get some photos of the deckers. However when I asked at reception, they would not allow me into the yard for health and safety reasons. I therefore spotted what I could from Albion Road but could not get any decent photos. I could only get details of two of the deckers. The other two were double parked. I anyone has the details can they let me know. From Albion Road I walked into Blyth town centre and visited the Arriva depot and bus station where I did some spotting. The depot has 3 withdrawn Dennis Darts at the rear which were looking a bit forlorn. Someone had sprayed yellow graffiti on them. Blyth was really quiet and it felt more like a Sunday than a Thursday

My last bus of the day was Arriva Wrightbus 7607 working the 16.52 308 service to Newcastle. I was able to get the seat upstairs above the driver. I was joined by 2 small children aged about 3-4 who amused themselves by playing a game. Basically when a truck or lorry came in the opposite direction, they shouted “baddie” and hid under the seats. The journey was going well until the stretch between Blyth and Seaton Sluice. At this point the little girl shat herself. The smell was intolerable; the little girl meanwhile went downstairs to tell her parents she had had an accident. Luckily the family alighted soon after at the caravan park near Saint Mary’s Island.

The rest of the journey was OK and the bus got busier and busier with commuters returning home from work. The smell had dissipated by the time we arrived in Whitley Bay. It was not a pleasant experience though. At Newcastle I quickly alighted from the bus into the heaving bus station. From there I made my way home savouring the comparatively fresh air. The views on the coastal section of this route are very good and it’s well worth a trip. At Seaton Sluice we passed owner-operator Glynn (Glynn’s of Tyneside) who has a single Van Hool bodied Volvo B10.

I had a really good day all in all, not bad going for an unplanned trip. For my next trip I’m probably going to try Darlo and maybe Newton Aycliffe. Hopefully there will not be any kids crapping themselves on the day!

Hope you enjoyed the review.

Charles
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I won't quote all of your post Charles but if you get time is there any chance you could send us (PM me?) details of the fleets so that I can update our independents fleetlists on here?

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(22 Aug 2015, 8:54 pm)tyresmoke wrote I won't quote all of your post Charles but if you get time is there any chance you could send us (PM me?) details of the fleets so that I can update our independents  fleetlists on here?

I would just get off immediately if someone had an 'incident' near me
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(22 Aug 2015, 8:59 pm)NK53 TKT wrote I would just get off immediately if someone had an 'incident' near me

Stay away from Kuyoyo then! Rolleyes

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(22 Aug 2015, 8:54 pm)tyresmoke wrote I won't quote all of your post Charles but if you get time is there any chance you could send us (PM me?) details of the fleets so that I can update our independents  fleetlists on here?
(22 Aug 2015, 8:59 pm)NK53 TKT wrote I would just get off immediately if someone had an 'incident' near me

Huh
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(22 Aug 2015, 9:22 pm)aureolin wrote Huh

(22 Aug 2015, 9:24 pm)Jimmi wrote My thoughts exactly! No idea what the discussion is about.

Think it was from Charles' review, someone had an 'incident' on one of the buses he was on, it looks like NK53 TKT has quoted Tyresmoke by accident perhaps?
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(22 Aug 2015, 10:07 pm)mb134 wrote Think it was from Charles' review, someone had an 'incident' on one of the buses he was on, it looks like NK53 TKT has quoted Tyresmoke by accident perhaps?

Yes I did that by accident. Sorry. Still getting used to the forum.
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I wasn't taking note of the buses from my Explorer trip on Friday, as I forgot!  Rolleyes So here's a summary of what I did. 21st August 2015.

#35: Ashington College to Ashington Bus Station - Arriva
#X21: Ashington Bus Station to Newcastle Haymarket - Arriva
#X21: Newcastle Eldon Square to Gateshead Interchange - Go North East 9109
#X31: Gateshead Interchange to Stanley Bus Station via Lanchester - Go North East 3831
#X43: Stanley Bus Station to MetroCentre Interchange - Go North East 5419
Train: Metro Centre to Newcastle - Northern Rail 156448
Train: Newcastle to Heworth - Northern Rail 142050
#27: Heworth to Hebburn - Go North East
Metro: Hebburn to South Shields - Tyne and Wear Metro
Ferry: South Shields to North Shields - Nexus Shields Ferry - Spirit of the Tyne
333: North Shields Ferry to North Shields Town Centre - Phoenix Coaches NX11 EXJ
19: North Shields Town Centre to Bedlington Station - Go North East 5245
X21: Bedlington Station to Ashington Fifth Avenue - Arriva

Bazza joined me between Newcastle and Heworth on 142050. GB Railfreight 66748 passed through shortly after arrival. He headed off for Sunderland while I was making my way towards South Shields.

I will try my best to remember to get the details next time! This trip was at very short notice...
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(23 Aug 2015, 10:40 am)GX03 SVC wrote I wasn't taking note of the buses from my Explorer trip on Friday, as I forgot!  Rolleyes So here's a summary of what I did. 21st August 2015.

#35: Ashington College to Ashington Bus Station - Arriva
#X21: Ashington Bus Station to Newcastle Haymarket - Arriva
#X21: Newcastle Eldon Square to Gateshead Interchange - Go North East 9109
#X31: Gateshead Interchange to Stanley Bus Station via Lanchester - Go North East 3831
#X43: Stanley Bus Station to MetroCentre Interchange - Go North East 5419
Train: Metro Centre to Newcastle - Northern Rail 156448
Train: Newcastle to Heworth - Northern Rail 142050
#27: Heworth to Hebburn - Go North East
Metro: Hebburn to South Shields - Tyne and Wear Metro
Ferry: South Shields to North Shields - Nexus Shields Ferry - Spirit of the Tyne
333: North Shields Ferry to North Shields Town Centre - Phoenix Coaches NX11 EXJ
19: North Shields Town Centre to Bedlington Station - Go North East 5245
X21: Bedlington Station to Ashington Fifth Avenue - Arriva

Bazza joined me between Newcastle and Heworth on 142050. GB Railfreight 66748 passed through shortly after arrival. He headed off for Sunderland while I was making my way towards South Shields.

I will try my best to remember to get the details next time! This trip was at very short notice...
Was the 35 a streetlite?
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Just arrived back from Acomb. I travelled there by using the 55 and 685.
First bus Arriva Wright Pulsar 2 1500 service 55 09:26 DSS Longbenton to Haymarket (09:38) arrival.
Second bus Stagecoach Cumbria 24119, Enviro 300 09:45 Eldon Square (left 09:51) to Hexham due in at (10:36) arrived at 10:42. Service 685
Third bus Go North East 618, ADL MPD left Hexham at 10:50 to travel to Acomb and back returning at 11:20. Service 682
Fourth bus Go North East 5233, Wright Solar left Hexham 11:51 and arrived in Newcastle at 12:41. The bus planned was the 11:27 85 but this did not turn up. Service X85
Fifth bus Arriva 1500 Wright Pulsar 2 12:45 Haymarket, 12:57 DSS Longbenton Service 55
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Like I have said previously, I very rarely post in here. If I do, it is generally relevant to a specific vehicle on a trip, rather than detailing the whole trip.
I think the last few have been specific to the X66 Streetlites, a Solar or two and my maiden GNE Omnidekka trip.

Managed to hitch a ride or two on the B8 demo (can't remember its number - it has 4853's ticket machine by the looks of it.

Anyway... The seats were canny. The saloon quite airy and the engine seemingly coped well, despite whatever restrictions have been put on it.

It reminded me of a Pulsar inside, which I suppose is to be expected.
It was a lot sturdier than the Streetlite, although I assume the emergency door probably has the same fittings as the ones on the Streetlite.

The engine reminded me of the hybrid B5's, with it being jerky/slow into second when pulling away. Once into third, generally the bus performed well.
The suspension/chassis took every bump (however little) and made sure the passengers knew about it.

As with the trip Jimmi undertook, a trip involved calling into the last stop prior to Houghton Cut.
I had been in two minds prior to it getting onto the slip, whether I wanted it to have a run up or not.
In the end, it did pick up a passenger. Once out of second, it stormed up the hill.
Anyone who has been on a native vehicle, normally seen on a 20/20a (see what I did there? Wink ), will know what it can be like going up Houghton Cut...

Overall, I did like the vehicle. Whether it is cut out for life on the 20's, I am not sure.
Hopefully additional demo's are introduced onto the route, before any upgrade is decided.
 
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(30 Aug 2015, 6:27 pm)GX03 SVC wrote I'm sure that Ivan got stuck in Middlesbrough due to a signalling problem and Lee went off to York with Andrew.

Oh, I thought they stayed together.
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(30 Aug 2015, 6:08 pm)DanPicken wrote And got stuck in Middlesbrough.

I can confirm I did not get stuck in Middlesbrough. Me and Andrew had planned to get the 17:03 East Midlands Trains service to York and then the 20:48 CrossCountry service from York to Durham.

However, Ivan did not want to get the train and got the X93 however, due to signalling problems in I believe Gypsy Lane, he got stuck in M'boro until around 22:00.
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(30 Aug 2015, 10:20 pm)LeeCalder wrote I can confirm I did not get stuck in Middlesbrough. Me and Andrew had planned to get the 17:03 East Midlands Trains service to York and then the 20:48 CrossCountry service from York to Durham.



However, Ivan did not want to get the train and got the X93 however, due to signalling problems in I believe Gypsy Lane, he got stuck in M'boro until around 22:00.

Typical when he wanted to go he got back after you. Why did he not get the X9/10 and get a refund?
Against the Anti-Lee Club.
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(30 Aug 2015, 1:19 am)Adam wrote I’m digressing here I know, but I love Philosophy and Ethics, having studied them at A-Level. To get you thinking in a philosophical manner, there was a dog on the bus too. Now, is a dog classed as a passenger? Think about it... What comes to mind? Another one that captivated me is "Does a snowman know it’s a snowman?", or "Does a carrot know it’s a carrot?" If anyone would like me to debate that or debate it with me, then please do let me know. I’ll be more than happy to Smile

I would say yes if it is a Guide Dog aiding someone who is Visually Impaired, otherwise in any other scenario I would say no and should not be allowed on board otherwise in my opinion, I have often wondered whilst sitting on a Bus and there been a Guide Dog on board aiding a person who is Blind, how does the person who is blind know when to press the bell for what stop they want to get off at etc, today this day I am still trying to figure it out.
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(01 Sep 2015, 11:48 pm)Adam wrote Sorry Malarkey, only seen your post until now.

I'm not sure what the policy is on dogs (possibly varies from company to company) but I personally would class dogs as passengers. Most definitions constrain passengers to just the human form, "people", but I believe it should be "all living things". You mention guide dogs and class them as a passenger as they are helping someone, but no matter how hard anyone tries to convince others, a guide dog still isn't a human. 

With my belief however, all animals and other living things are passengers. From dogs (not just guide dogs) and budgies to sunflowers and micro-organisms, they are all passengers.

People may argue that animals or plants are just the "luggage" of a passenger, but if you were to argue that point, then would babies be brought under the same umbrella as they haven't got a choice about whether to travel or not?

Before you know it, you're then tangled in a web of philosophical ethics. Fascinating stuff I think.

As for your latter point on guide dogs, it fascinates me too how they, or even the blind/visually impaired person, knew in the past when their stop is, but thanks to the technology nowadays of Next Stop Announcements, it has made bus travel a viable option for people with this disability.

I agree, all animals or organisms travelling upon transport should be regarded as passenger irrespective of whether they're human or not. In general, I do make an effort not to adopt an anthropocentric view despite my obvious bias. Everything has the same right to exist and should be allowed the freedom to exist without impingement or discrimination.

But I would like to (briefly) unpack the term 'passenger' and broaden the scope a little. What is a passenger? You've used the term in relation to transport but what is transport? A conduit which allows to travel from one point to another? If we are travelling from one point to another then time must also be regarded as 'transport' and therefore everything which travels in time must also be a 'passenger'. In short, we all are passengers whether we like it or not.