Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
Not sure where to put this, as it's Kingsley Coaches and Arriva, but how about merging the 33/33A and 84/84A? Both are Nexus secured, and it could open up new cross-city links.
84 - Red House Farm to Metrocentre
via Kingston Park Road, Regent Centre, Gosforth, Jesmond, City Centre, St James' Park, CAV, Elswick, Benwell, Denton Burn and Scotswood
84A - Hollywood Avenue to West Denton Shops
via Regent Centre, Gosforth, Jesmond, City Centre, RVI, Spital Tongues, Fenham, Slatyford and Denton Burn
(18 Sep 2015, 1:47 pm)BJ10VUS Not sure where to put this, as it's Kingsley Coaches and Arriva, but how about merging the 33/33A and 84/84A? Both are Nexus secured, and it could open up new cross-city links.
84 - Red House Farm to Metrocentre
via Kingston Park Road, Regent Centre, Gosforth, Jesmond, City Centre, St James' Park, CAV, Elswick, Benwell, Denton Burn and Scotswood
84A - Hollywood Avenue to West Denton Shops
via Regent Centre, Gosforth, Jesmond, City Centre, RVI, Spital Tongues, Fenham, Slatyford and Denton Burn
(18 Sep 2015, 1:47 pm)BJ10VUS Not sure where to put this, as it's Kingsley Coaches and Arriva, but how about merging the 33/33A and 84/84A? Both are Nexus secured, and it could open up new cross-city links.
84 - Red House Farm to Metrocentre
via Kingston Park Road, Regent Centre, Gosforth, Jesmond, City Centre, St James' Park, CAV, Elswick, Benwell, Denton Burn and Scotswood
84A - Hollywood Avenue to West Denton Shops
via Regent Centre, Gosforth, Jesmond, City Centre, RVI, Spital Tongues, Fenham, Slatyford and Denton Burn
Service X13
Billy Mill to MetroCentre
limited stop via Coast Road, Newcastle Haymarket and Teams
every 20 minutes
This service will provide connections to the MetroCentre from the Newcastle and SE Northumberland areas, without having to change onto another operators' service.
(01 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm)GX03 SVC Service X13
Billy Mill to MetroCentre
limited stop via Coast Road, Newcastle Haymarket and Teams
every 20 minutes
This service will provide connections to the MetroCentre from the Newcastle and SE Northumberland areas, without having to change onto another operators' service.
(01 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm)GX03 SVC Service X13
Billy Mill to MetroCentre
limited stop via Coast Road, Newcastle Haymarket and Teams
every 20 minutes
This service will provide connections to the MetroCentre from the Newcastle and SE Northumberland areas, without having to change onto another operators' service.
(01 Oct 2015, 9:10 pm)BusLoverMum A service like that would make a lot of sense.I think a service from Newcastle and the Metrocentre like the Stagecoach 100 would be a good idea with many Arriva services serving Haymarket Bus Station so there is plenty of services to connect to. Haymarket would probably be the best place for it to leave from as pretty much all Arriva services in Newcastle leave from Haymarket (the 85, X12 from Eldon Square) although there would be difficulties entering Haymarket Bus Station on a service from the Metrocentre.
I think Arriva do lose out a fair bit by not having a very big presence in Gateshead (only really the X12 and the barely worth having X24, these days. They had more a decade or so ago, when some services were shared) or Sunderland (just the Peterlee services from the South - all of which have strong competition from GNE)
(01 Oct 2015, 9:10 pm)BusLoverMum A service like that would make a lot of sense.I think a service from Newcastle and the Metrocentre like the Stagecoach 100 would be a good idea with many Arriva services serving Haymarket Bus Station so there is plenty of services to connect to. Haymarket would probably be the best place for it to leave from as pretty much all Arriva services in Newcastle leave from Haymarket (the 85, X12 from Eldon Square) although there would be difficulties entering Haymarket Bus Station on a service from the Metrocentre.
I think Arriva do lose out a fair bit by not having a very big presence in Gateshead (only really the X12 and the barely worth having X24, these days. They had more a decade or so ago, when some services were shared) or Sunderland (just the Peterlee services from the South - all of which have strong competition from GNE)
(01 Oct 2015, 9:21 pm)Jimmi I think a service from Newcastle and the Metrocentre like the Stagecoach 100 would be a good idea with many Arriva services serving Haymarket Bus Station so there is plenty of services to connect to. Haymarket would probably be the best place for it to leave from as pretty much all Arriva services in Newcastle leave from Haymarket (the 85, X12 from Eldon Square) although there would be difficulties entering Haymarket Bus Station on a service from the Metrocentre.
(01 Oct 2015, 9:21 pm)Jimmi I think a service from Newcastle and the Metrocentre like the Stagecoach 100 would be a good idea with many Arriva services serving Haymarket Bus Station so there is plenty of services to connect to. Haymarket would probably be the best place for it to leave from as pretty much all Arriva services in Newcastle leave from Haymarket (the 85, X12 from Eldon Square) although there would be difficulties entering Haymarket Bus Station on a service from the Metrocentre.
(01 Oct 2015, 9:21 pm)Jimmi I think a service from Newcastle and the Metrocentre like the Stagecoach 100 would be a good idea with many Arriva services serving Haymarket Bus Station so there is plenty of services to connect to. Haymarket would probably be the best place for it to leave from as pretty much all Arriva services in Newcastle leave from Haymarket (the 85, X12 from Eldon Square) although there would be difficulties entering Haymarket Bus Station on a service from the Metrocentre.
(01 Oct 2015, 9:21 pm)Jimmi I think a service from Newcastle and the Metrocentre like the Stagecoach 100 would be a good idea with many Arriva services serving Haymarket Bus Station so there is plenty of services to connect to. Haymarket would probably be the best place for it to leave from as pretty much all Arriva services in Newcastle leave from Haymarket (the 85, X12 from Eldon Square) although there would be difficulties entering Haymarket Bus Station on a service from the Metrocentre.
(01 Oct 2015, 10:21 pm)BusLoverMum Turning left out of Eldon Square and right out of Haymarket (and vice versa) does seem to be the limiting factor. I would suggest that's historical, but I used to wait at Haymarket for the odd service to Low Fell. I suspect it's been tidied up by not having services crossing over.
(01 Oct 2015, 10:21 pm)BusLoverMum Turning left out of Eldon Square and right out of Haymarket (and vice versa) does seem to be the limiting factor. I would suggest that's historical, but I used to wait at Haymarket for the odd service to Low Fell. I suspect it's been tidied up by not having services crossing over.
I would like to see Arriva offering a faster service between Durham and Sunderland than the 22 which takes nearly an hour and a half, possibly a express competing with the Go North East 20/20A although GNE have done a few forms of express services between Durham and Sunderland over the years and they were dropped. Doubt my suggestion will happen anytime soon though.
could make a Newcastle to Darlington to York Service would be nice
(07 Oct 2015, 5:58 pm)Diamond One could make a Newcastle to Darlington to York Service would be niceDidn't Stagecoach do a service like that in the past? It wasn't that successful from what I heard.
(07 Oct 2015, 5:58 pm)Diamond One could make a Newcastle to Darlington to York Service would be niceDidn't Stagecoach do a service like that in the past? It wasn't that successful from what I heard.
(07 Oct 2015, 6:04 pm)Jimmi Didn't Stagecoach do a service like that in the past? It wasn't that successful from what I heard.
(07 Oct 2015, 6:04 pm)Jimmi Didn't Stagecoach do a service like that in the past? It wasn't that successful from what I heard.
To combat the reliability issues facing Blyth's services, here is an outline of my suggestion, I will upload the full one at a later time with some timing samples showing the improvements in action including evening and Sunday PVRs:
Quroum Express services X7 / X8:
- X7 remaining as it is
- X8 Newcastle to Cramlington only
- PVR of X7 / X8 = 8 vehicles interworking in Newcastle
- Combined frequencies still the same and frequencies unchanged
Coastliner Services 306 / 308 / X6:
- 308 PVR increased to 10 vehicles.
- 306 PVR increased to 9 vehicles.
- Combined frequencies still the same and frequencies unchanged
- X6 renumbered 9X
New MAX X9 and MAX X10 / X11:
- X9 serving same route as current X8 between Blyth and Cramlington then same route as X10 / X11 to Newcastle every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime and every 60 minutes during evenings and Sundays
- X10 reduced to every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
- X11 reduced to every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
- PVR of X9 / X10 / X11 = 14 vehicles
- All three will operate roughly every 10 minutes (20 minutes evenings and Sundays)combined from Blyth and between Cramlington and Newcastle
- X10 / X11 will operate every 15 minutes combined from the Black Diamond towards Blyth and towards Cramlington, Regular services too during evenings and Sundays
(25 Oct 2015, 10:26 am)Lm2606 And where are Arriva going to source the vehicles for this from?
(25 Oct 2015, 10:26 am)Lm2606 And where are Arriva going to source the vehicles for this from?
Services X21/X22 get 9 new ADL Enviro400 (EURO 5!).
7501-9 transfer to services 35/35a which will be upgraded to every 20 minutes, combined 10 minutes between Newbiggin Leisure Centre and Morpeth. Upgraded to Sapphire.
1579-1581 transfer to Jesmond for service 306 to ensure that Whitley Bay gets later services to Newcastle.
(25 Oct 2015, 1:02 pm)GX03 SVC Services X21/X22 get 9 new ADL Enviro400 (EURO 5!).
7501-9 transfer to services 35/35a which will be upgraded to every 20 minutes, combined 10 minutes between Newbiggin Leisure Centre and Morpeth. Upgraded to Sapphire.
1579-1581 transfer to Jesmond for service 306 to ensure that Whitley Bay gets later services to Newcastle.
- X21/X22 get a fleet of reliable vehicles for the express services
- 35/35A get extra comfort with Free WiFi and power sockets with Sapphire. New 10-minute combined frequency.
- 306 serves Whitley Bay to Newcastle for longer on evenings
(25 Oct 2015, 1:02 pm)GX03 SVC Services X21/X22 get 9 new ADL Enviro400 (EURO 5!).
7501-9 transfer to services 35/35a which will be upgraded to every 20 minutes, combined 10 minutes between Newbiggin Leisure Centre and Morpeth. Upgraded to Sapphire.
1579-1581 transfer to Jesmond for service 306 to ensure that Whitley Bay gets later services to Newcastle.
- X21/X22 get a fleet of reliable vehicles for the express services
- 35/35A get extra comfort with Free WiFi and power sockets with Sapphire. New 10-minute combined frequency.
- 306 serves Whitley Bay to Newcastle for longer on evenings
(07 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm)DaveyBowyer To combat the reliability issues facing Blyth's services, here is an outline of my suggestion, I will upload the full one at a later time with some timing samples showing the improvements in action including evening and Sunday PVRs:I always use the X9 to get to Cramlington, even though it takes longer BECAUSE it avoids the A19. That would annoy me and the people in Beacon Hill would have no bus to Newcastle. The rest I like
Quroum Express services X7 / X8:
- X7 remaining as it is
- X8 Newcastle to Cramlington only
- PVR of X7 / X8 = 8 vehicles interworking in Newcastle
- Combined frequencies still the same and frequencies unchanged
Coastliner Services 306 / 308 / X6:
- 308 PVR increased to 10 vehicles.
- 306 PVR increased to 9 vehicles.
- Combined frequencies still the same and frequencies unchanged
- X6 renumbered 9X
New MAX X9 and MAX X10 / X11:
- X9 serving same route as current X8 between Blyth and Cramlington then same route as X10 / X11 to Newcastle every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime and every 60 minutes during evenings and Sundays
- X10 reduced to every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
- X11 reduced to every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
- PVR of X9 / X10 / X11 = 14 vehicles
- All three will operate roughly every 10 minutes (20 minutes evenings and Sundays)combined from Blyth and between Cramlington and Newcastle
- X10 / X11 will operate every 15 minutes combined from the Black Diamond towards Blyth and towards Cramlington, Regular services too during evenings and Sundays
(07 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm)DaveyBowyer To combat the reliability issues facing Blyth's services, here is an outline of my suggestion, I will upload the full one at a later time with some timing samples showing the improvements in action including evening and Sunday PVRs:I always use the X9 to get to Cramlington, even though it takes longer BECAUSE it avoids the A19. That would annoy me and the people in Beacon Hill would have no bus to Newcastle. The rest I like
Quroum Express services X7 / X8:
- X7 remaining as it is
- X8 Newcastle to Cramlington only
- PVR of X7 / X8 = 8 vehicles interworking in Newcastle
- Combined frequencies still the same and frequencies unchanged
Coastliner Services 306 / 308 / X6:
- 308 PVR increased to 10 vehicles.
- 306 PVR increased to 9 vehicles.
- Combined frequencies still the same and frequencies unchanged
- X6 renumbered 9X
New MAX X9 and MAX X10 / X11:
- X9 serving same route as current X8 between Blyth and Cramlington then same route as X10 / X11 to Newcastle every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime and every 60 minutes during evenings and Sundays
- X10 reduced to every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
- X11 reduced to every 30 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
- PVR of X9 / X10 / X11 = 14 vehicles
- All three will operate roughly every 10 minutes (20 minutes evenings and Sundays)combined from Blyth and between Cramlington and Newcastle
- X10 / X11 will operate every 15 minutes combined from the Black Diamond towards Blyth and towards Cramlington, Regular services too during evenings and Sundays
(25 Oct 2015, 1:14 pm)DanPicken Why does the 306 stop so earlyy anyway?
(25 Oct 2015, 1:14 pm)DanPicken Why does the 306 stop so earlyy anyway?
