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BJ10VUS



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20 Nov 2015, 12:34 pm #441
(19 Nov 2015, 4:21 pm)DanPicken Not really it's just the 43-5 mixed with the current Q3.

Fair enough, but every Boxing Day for a while has been Weardale operating the 44 and 45, and I'm not sure there's ever been a direct link between the Great Park and Wideopen & Dinnington.
BJ10VUS
20 Nov 2015, 12:34 pm #441

(19 Nov 2015, 4:21 pm)DanPicken Not really it's just the 43-5 mixed with the current Q3.

Fair enough, but every Boxing Day for a while has been Weardale operating the 44 and 45, and I'm not sure there's ever been a direct link between the Great Park and Wideopen & Dinnington.

Jimmi



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20 Nov 2015, 3:02 pm #442
Just seen 5328 on the 27 in Gateshead Interchange, the small panel under the rear registration plate is missing.
Jimmi
20 Nov 2015, 3:02 pm #442

Just seen 5328 on the 27 in Gateshead Interchange, the small panel under the rear registration plate is missing.

S813 FVK



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20 Nov 2015, 4:05 pm #443
(20 Nov 2015, 3:02 pm)Jimmi Just seen 5328 on the 27 in Gateshead Interchange, the small panel under the rear registration plate is missing.

A few of the 08 reg citaros at Deptford used to go round that - when they were branded laser, they looked a mess.
S813 FVK
20 Nov 2015, 4:05 pm #443

(20 Nov 2015, 3:02 pm)Jimmi Just seen 5328 on the 27 in Gateshead Interchange, the small panel under the rear registration plate is missing.

A few of the 08 reg citaros at Deptford used to go round that - when they were branded laser, they looked a mess.

Dan

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20 Nov 2015, 4:10 pm #444
(20 Nov 2015, 3:02 pm)Jimmi Just seen 5328 on the 27 in Gateshead Interchange, the small panel under the rear registration plate is missing.

There used to be a few Darts at Percy Main like this and I recall reading it related to the tow? Quite a few Crusaders have it though, and those that have that panel, it is a different shade of silver iirc.
Dan
20 Nov 2015, 4:10 pm #444

(20 Nov 2015, 3:02 pm)Jimmi Just seen 5328 on the 27 in Gateshead Interchange, the small panel under the rear registration plate is missing.

There used to be a few Darts at Percy Main like this and I recall reading it related to the tow? Quite a few Crusaders have it though, and those that have that panel, it is a different shade of silver iirc.

DanPicken

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20 Nov 2015, 4:15 pm #445
(20 Nov 2015, 12:34 pm)BJ10VUS Fair enough, but every Boxing Day for a while has been Weardale operating the 44 and 45, and I'm not sure there's ever been a direct link between the Great Park and Wideopen & Dinnington.

It's been GNE for at least 3 years Weardale used to do it.
DanPicken
20 Nov 2015, 4:15 pm #445

(20 Nov 2015, 12:34 pm)BJ10VUS Fair enough, but every Boxing Day for a while has been Weardale operating the 44 and 45, and I'm not sure there's ever been a direct link between the Great Park and Wideopen & Dinnington.

It's been GNE for at least 3 years Weardale used to do it.

Dan

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20 Nov 2015, 4:21 pm #446
(20 Nov 2015, 4:15 pm)DanPicken It's been GNE for at least 3 years Weardale used to do it.

Phoenix did it last year with Solos, and Go North East did it the two years prior with Orbit Versas? Without looking at photos on Flickr, I wouldn't be able to recall before then.
Dan
20 Nov 2015, 4:21 pm #446

(20 Nov 2015, 4:15 pm)DanPicken It's been GNE for at least 3 years Weardale used to do it.

Phoenix did it last year with Solos, and Go North East did it the two years prior with Orbit Versas? Without looking at photos on Flickr, I wouldn't be able to recall before then.

Michael



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20 Nov 2015, 4:24 pm #447
I like how the workers at SM have left some of the arrow on the back of 6001


photo from Guy Park-Royal - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gpr_bus_ph...otostream/

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
20 Nov 2015, 4:24 pm #447

I like how the workers at SM have left some of the arrow on the back of 6001


photo from Guy Park-Royal - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gpr_bus_ph...otostream/


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

20 Nov 2015, 4:41 pm #448
(20 Nov 2015, 4:24 pm)Michael I like how the workers at SM have left some of the arrow on the back of 6001


photo from Guy Park-Royal - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gpr_bus_ph...otostream/

Poor show.
R852 PRG
20 Nov 2015, 4:41 pm #448

(20 Nov 2015, 4:24 pm)Michael I like how the workers at SM have left some of the arrow on the back of 6001


photo from Guy Park-Royal - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gpr_bus_ph...otostream/

Poor show.

20 Nov 2015, 4:51 pm #449
(20 Nov 2015, 7:36 am)S813 FVK Did he? I interpreted it has 6049-6055 staying where they are with 6001-6007 being replaced by new vehicles.

That is part of my plan
NK53 TKT
20 Nov 2015, 4:51 pm #449

(20 Nov 2015, 7:36 am)S813 FVK Did he? I interpreted it has 6049-6055 staying where they are with 6001-6007 being replaced by new vehicles.

That is part of my plan

20 Nov 2015, 4:54 pm #450
(20 Nov 2015, 12:34 pm)BJ10VUS Fair enough, but every Boxing Day for a while has been Weardale operating the 44 and 45, and I'm not sure there's ever been a direct link between the Great Park and Wideopen & Dinnington.

It will keep me busy, it won't be versas though. It will be renowns I think
NK53 TKT
20 Nov 2015, 4:54 pm #450

(20 Nov 2015, 12:34 pm)BJ10VUS Fair enough, but every Boxing Day for a while has been Weardale operating the 44 and 45, and I'm not sure there's ever been a direct link between the Great Park and Wideopen & Dinnington.

It will keep me busy, it won't be versas though. It will be renowns I think

20 Nov 2015, 5:00 pm #451
(20 Nov 2015, 4:54 pm)NK53 TKT It will keep me busy, it won't be versas though. It will be renowns I think

Think it's a question of which one is more fuel-efficient. On a day where the running costs are higher due to increased driver wages and other factors, they're going to want to allocate the most fuel-efficient buses they can. I don't think Renowns are very fuel-efficient, I think they only get about 6 miles per gallon.
R852 PRG
20 Nov 2015, 5:00 pm #451

(20 Nov 2015, 4:54 pm)NK53 TKT It will keep me busy, it won't be versas though. It will be renowns I think

Think it's a question of which one is more fuel-efficient. On a day where the running costs are higher due to increased driver wages and other factors, they're going to want to allocate the most fuel-efficient buses they can. I don't think Renowns are very fuel-efficient, I think they only get about 6 miles per gallon.

20 Nov 2015, 6:19 pm #452
Weardale did Arriva 44/45 to Dinnington on Boxing Day 2010 and 2011. I remember having 102 passengers on MAN Meridian leaving Haymarket after the Newcastle match in 2010 - the police wanting me to take all those waiting.
Greg in Weardale
20 Nov 2015, 6:19 pm #452

Weardale did Arriva 44/45 to Dinnington on Boxing Day 2010 and 2011. I remember having 102 passengers on MAN Meridian leaving Haymarket after the Newcastle match in 2010 - the police wanting me to take all those waiting.

20 Nov 2015, 6:21 pm #453
Also Weardale did GNE 93/94 in Gateshead in 2010 only, using deckers.
Greg in Weardale
20 Nov 2015, 6:21 pm #453

Also Weardale did GNE 93/94 in Gateshead in 2010 only, using deckers.

S813 FVK



6,030
20 Nov 2015, 9:19 pm #454
Looks like Kingsleys are taking after GNE with the route number:

[Image: 23187407301_c6fddfb665.jpg]Kingsley's: 110 / NA52 BVJ by Jimmi's Transport Photos, on Flickr
S813 FVK
20 Nov 2015, 9:19 pm #454

Looks like Kingsleys are taking after GNE with the route number:

[Image: 23187407301_c6fddfb665.jpg]Kingsley's: 110 / NA52 BVJ by Jimmi's Transport Photos, on Flickr

citaro5284



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20 Nov 2015, 9:27 pm #455
(20 Nov 2015, 9:19 pm)S813 FVK Looks like Kingsleys are taking after GNE with the route number:

[Image: 23187407301_c6fddfb665.jpg]Kingsley's: 110 / NA52 BVJ by Jimmi's Transport Photos, on Flickr

Some people cannot think of ideas for themselves...  Tongue
citaro5284
20 Nov 2015, 9:27 pm #455

(20 Nov 2015, 9:19 pm)S813 FVK Looks like Kingsleys are taking after GNE with the route number:

[Image: 23187407301_c6fddfb665.jpg]Kingsley's: 110 / NA52 BVJ by Jimmi's Transport Photos, on Flickr

Some people cannot think of ideas for themselves...  Tongue

Jimmi



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20 Nov 2015, 9:48 pm #456
This morning, I rode the 09:36 X21 from Durham Bus Station - Newcastle and I have some concerns about capacity on this journey. Before we got to the stop where the Red Lion is in Chester-le-Street, there was only around 3 seats left upstairs, so you can only imagine the problems when we got to the stop to pick up the passengers waiting at the stop, the 3 seats were quickly taken and then we had a fair few passengers come upstairs then had to turn round and head back down the stairs and the passengers probably ended up standing downstairs, because of this it meant the bus was unable to use the A1(M) to head towards the Angel and Low Fell so we had to go through Birtley instead which took ages to get through, the end result being the service arriving in Newcastle around 10 minutes late and behind the 21 which left Durham Bus Station 5 minutes before the X21! So I waited for the so called fast bus to Newcastle and it ended up taking nearly as long as the all stops service!

Pronto?
Jimmi
20 Nov 2015, 9:48 pm #456

This morning, I rode the 09:36 X21 from Durham Bus Station - Newcastle and I have some concerns about capacity on this journey. Before we got to the stop where the Red Lion is in Chester-le-Street, there was only around 3 seats left upstairs, so you can only imagine the problems when we got to the stop to pick up the passengers waiting at the stop, the 3 seats were quickly taken and then we had a fair few passengers come upstairs then had to turn round and head back down the stairs and the passengers probably ended up standing downstairs, because of this it meant the bus was unable to use the A1(M) to head towards the Angel and Low Fell so we had to go through Birtley instead which took ages to get through, the end result being the service arriving in Newcastle around 10 minutes late and behind the 21 which left Durham Bus Station 5 minutes before the X21! So I waited for the so called fast bus to Newcastle and it ended up taking nearly as long as the all stops service!

Pronto?

L469 YVK



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20 Nov 2015, 10:10 pm #457
(20 Nov 2015, 9:48 pm)Jimmi This morning, I rode the 09:36 X21 from Durham Bus Station - Newcastle and I have some concerns about capacity on this journey. Before we got to the stop where the Red Lion is in Chester-le-Street, there was only around 3 seats left upstairs, so you can only imagine the problems when we got to the stop to pick up the passengers waiting at the stop, the 3 seats were quickly taken and then we had a fair few passengers come upstairs then had to turn round and head back down the stairs and the passengers probably ended up standing downstairs, because of this it meant the bus was unable to use the A1(M) to head towards the Angel and Low Fell so we had to go through Birtley instead which took ages to get through, the end result being the service arriving in Newcastle around 10 minutes late and behind the 21 which left Durham Bus Station 5 minutes before the X21! So I waited for the so called fast bus to Newcastle and it ended up taking nearly as long as the all stops service!

Pronto?

Is this because of the capability of the vehicle or safety? If it's the latter, then it would be like Arriva diverting the X14/X15/X16/X18 via Shields Rd, Plessey Checks, Fisher Lane, Seaton Burn and Wideopen if people were standing on them services between Morpeth and Newcastle (very often on the X16).
L469 YVK
20 Nov 2015, 10:10 pm #457

(20 Nov 2015, 9:48 pm)Jimmi This morning, I rode the 09:36 X21 from Durham Bus Station - Newcastle and I have some concerns about capacity on this journey. Before we got to the stop where the Red Lion is in Chester-le-Street, there was only around 3 seats left upstairs, so you can only imagine the problems when we got to the stop to pick up the passengers waiting at the stop, the 3 seats were quickly taken and then we had a fair few passengers come upstairs then had to turn round and head back down the stairs and the passengers probably ended up standing downstairs, because of this it meant the bus was unable to use the A1(M) to head towards the Angel and Low Fell so we had to go through Birtley instead which took ages to get through, the end result being the service arriving in Newcastle around 10 minutes late and behind the 21 which left Durham Bus Station 5 minutes before the X21! So I waited for the so called fast bus to Newcastle and it ended up taking nearly as long as the all stops service!

Pronto?

Is this because of the capability of the vehicle or safety? If it's the latter, then it would be like Arriva diverting the X14/X15/X16/X18 via Shields Rd, Plessey Checks, Fisher Lane, Seaton Burn and Wideopen if people were standing on them services between Morpeth and Newcastle (very often on the X16).

Jimmi



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20 Nov 2015, 10:13 pm #458
(20 Nov 2015, 10:10 pm)DaveyBowyer Is this because of the capability of the vehicle or safety? If it's the latter, then it would be like Arriva diverting the X14/X15/X16/X18 via Shields Rd, Plessey Checks, Fisher Lane, Seaton Burn and Wideopen if people were standing on them services between Morpeth and Newcastle (very often on the X16).
I'm sure I heard someone say that standing is not allowed on the A1(M) on the X21. Think it's the same on the A19 for the X9/X10.
Jimmi
20 Nov 2015, 10:13 pm #458

(20 Nov 2015, 10:10 pm)DaveyBowyer Is this because of the capability of the vehicle or safety? If it's the latter, then it would be like Arriva diverting the X14/X15/X16/X18 via Shields Rd, Plessey Checks, Fisher Lane, Seaton Burn and Wideopen if people were standing on them services between Morpeth and Newcastle (very often on the X16).
I'm sure I heard someone say that standing is not allowed on the A1(M) on the X21. Think it's the same on the A19 for the X9/X10.

S813 FVK



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20 Nov 2015, 10:15 pm #459
(20 Nov 2015, 10:13 pm)Jimmi I'm sure I heard someone say that standing is not allowed on the A1(M) on the X21. Think it's the same on the A19 for the X9/X10.

You are correct - the topic was brought up a few days ago.
S813 FVK
20 Nov 2015, 10:15 pm #459

(20 Nov 2015, 10:13 pm)Jimmi I'm sure I heard someone say that standing is not allowed on the A1(M) on the X21. Think it's the same on the A19 for the X9/X10.

You are correct - the topic was brought up a few days ago.

citaro5284



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20 Nov 2015, 11:03 pm #460
However, there does not appear to be a rule that states standees are not allowed on a vehicle that goes on a Motorway. TTX drivers have being told standees are allowed.

Providing the standees do not exceed the number permitted for the vehicle as per normal operation, there just be no issue with standees on the Pronto service.
citaro5284
20 Nov 2015, 11:03 pm #460

However, there does not appear to be a rule that states standees are not allowed on a vehicle that goes on a Motorway. TTX drivers have being told standees are allowed.

Providing the standees do not exceed the number permitted for the vehicle as per normal operation, there just be no issue with standees on the Pronto service.

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