(19 Feb 2016, 12:00 am)South Tyne Lad wrote Yes I have got a source from the " Northern Franchise Awarded to Arriva " Thread in RailUK Forums They discuss what Arriva have confirmed will happen in the Franchise.
GWR 150s, 5 Scotrail 156s and a dozen Scotrail 170s are transferring to Arriva Rail North in 2017, This will in turn release the 144s and 153s to the Lessor.
New stock is indeed being delivered from late 2018 which will replace Sprinters in the North West and Yorkshire which makes them Available to use in the North East, Replacing the 142s all over Northern.
That idea was brought up by Lesaing Company " Porterbrook " which owns the 153s but that idea was rejected by Arriva and as such the 153s are returning to the lessor in 2017
(19 Feb 2016, 12:08 pm)Bus_User wrote Ok cheers for that, I was not doubting you btw, It was just the first I heard about the 144's being returned/withdrawn so soon.
Any truth in the fact as soon as the franchises changes, some 185's will be on loan to Arriva for the Barrow services as I assume they are getting immediately transferred to Arriva in April?
Certainly going to be an interesting few years coming up.
(19 Feb 2016, 1:10 pm)Michael wrote Sunderland getting a decent amount of services, happy with that, if i'm reading it right.
These are from Newcastle:
1 train between 02:00 - 06:59
4 services between 07:00 - 09:59
6 between 10:00 - 15:59
4 between 16:00 - 18:59
3 between 19:00 and 22:00
2 between 22:00 - 01:59
To Newcastle from Sunderland
4 - 07:00 - 09:59
6 - 10:00 - 15:59
3 - 16:00 - 18:59
3 - 19:00 - 21:59
1 - 22:00 - 01:59
Twelve services departing from MetroCentre to Newcastle shall also call at Sunderland.
(19 Feb 2016, 1:44 pm)Andreos1 wrote Had a quick look at the timetable and (hopefully my tired eyes have counted up correctly) at the moment:
Sunderland from Newcastle:
1 - 02:00 - 06:59
4 - 07:00 - 09:59
6 - 10:00 - 15:59
4 - 16:00 - 18:59
3 - 19:00 - 22:00
1 - 22:00 - 01:59
Newcastle from Sunderland:
4 - 07:00 - 09:59
6 - 10:00 - 15:59
3 - 16:00 - 18:59
2 - 19:00 - 21:59
1 - 22:00 - 01:59
The times of the early and late trains are interesting as they potentially imply the trains run into the night...
The last train out of Sunderland to Newcastle currently, is just after 2200
http://www.northernrail.org/pdfs/timetab...1213/2.pdf
(19 Feb 2016, 1:47 pm)Michael wrote Least i was right on them, i was finding it hard to read it.
Hopefully they'll put the timetables on soon, like with all the proper information.
(21 Feb 2016, 10:51 pm)Adrian wrote I'd say it's reasonable to expect to see a new livery for the new franchise. From 1st April, you'd expect to see them do something with the current livery for an interim period, as it contains Serco and abellio names.
(21 Feb 2016, 9:50 pm)Jimmi wrote What'll be used on the Bishop Auckland - Saltburn line when the Pacers are removed from service?
Also around what sort of time will the service to Bishop Auckland be increased to hourly operation?
(23 Feb 2016, 7:50 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Nothing has been confirmed on that yet, But speculation is that 156s will be staying with Class 150s transferring from Newton Heath in the North West
Though 150s will have to get cleared between Pelaw and Sunderland first before that happens.
around 2018 I believe though it could be earlier or later
I will update you when more info comes about
(23 Feb 2016, 8:57 pm)Andreos1 wrote If they are GWR 150/0's (the only type I have had a go of) - I didn't enjoy them at all.
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=322&page=12 From the bottom of the page.