Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
(08 Mar 2016, 7:43 pm)X8X9X10 The X7/X8 don't exist to cater to the every whim of Quorum workers though. Creating further delays and elongated timetabling would just result in passengers already on the services from Blyth, Cramlington and Seaton Sluice having their journeys take longer just because it would be slightly more convenient for Quorum.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:43 pm)X8X9X10 The X7/X8 don't exist to cater to the every whim of Quorum workers though. Creating further delays and elongated timetabling would just result in passengers already on the services from Blyth, Cramlington and Seaton Sluice having their journeys take longer just because it would be slightly more convenient for Quorum.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:39 pm)X8X9X10 Regarding the X7/X8, why not extend the 554 to Haymarket or have some equivalent shuttle service similar to the X6 to meet morning/evening demand inside the business parks?
I don't know about the X7, but I know the X8 already suffers huge delays (areas like Moor Farn roundabout near Annitsford and Cramlington serve as significant bottlenecks) at peak times to the extent that further extending the service without extra vehicles or timetable frequency would be a really bad idea.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:39 pm)X8X9X10 Regarding the X7/X8, why not extend the 554 to Haymarket or have some equivalent shuttle service similar to the X6 to meet morning/evening demand inside the business parks?
I don't know about the X7, but I know the X8 already suffers huge delays (areas like Moor Farn roundabout near Annitsford and Cramlington serve as significant bottlenecks) at peak times to the extent that further extending the service without extra vehicles or timetable frequency would be a really bad idea.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:46 pm)S813 FVK There are plenty more options to go to Blyth, Cramlington and Seaton Sluice, most of which are MAX, too.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:46 pm)S813 FVK There are plenty more options to go to Blyth, Cramlington and Seaton Sluice, most of which are MAX, too.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:50 pm)Andreos1 To be fair, that's like saying stopping at the Regent Centre is inconvenient for passengers travelling from Morpeth and heading to the town.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:50 pm)Andreos1 To be fair, that's like saying stopping at the Regent Centre is inconvenient for passengers travelling from Morpeth and heading to the town.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:05 pm)X8X9X10 More like taking the existing services that stop there and adding a bunch of unnecessary delay to their timetables so they can loop around inside Regent Centre proper because Regent Centre's workers are too inconvenienced by a couple minutes' walk.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:05 pm)X8X9X10 More like taking the existing services that stop there and adding a bunch of unnecessary delay to their timetables so they can loop around inside Regent Centre proper because Regent Centre's workers are too inconvenienced by a couple minutes' walk.
Guys, the simple problem with the X8 is the lack of time the service gets between Blyth and Quroum because of the following:
- Bebside
- Shankhouse / Three Horse Shoes / Horton Road
- Cramlington
- Moor Farm (F*****g nightmare that one is)
- Annitsford Roundabout
- West Moor / Camperdown / A189
If extra time was added with the route running between Newcastle and Cramlington only during Monday to Saturday with the section between Blyth and Cramlington covered by a sister service to the X10 / X11, it would solve many of the issue with all of Blyth's services (bar the 308 and the Blyth / Wansbeck / Morpeth locals) with no PVR increase.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:19 pm)DaveyBowyer Guys, the simple problem with the X8 is the lack of time the service gets between Blyth and Quroum
(08 Mar 2016, 10:19 pm)DaveyBowyer Guys, the simple problem with the X8 is the lack of time the service gets between Blyth and Quroum
(08 Mar 2016, 10:19 pm)DaveyBowyer Guys, the simple problem with the X8 is the lack of time the service gets between Blyth and Quroum because of the following:
- Bebside
- Shankhouse / Three Horse Shoes / Horton Road
- Cramlington
- Moor Farm (F*****g nightmare that one is)
- Annitsford Roundabout
- West Moor / Camperdown / A189
If extra time was added with the route running between Newcastle and Cramlington only during Monday to Saturday with the section between Blyth and Cramlington covered by a sister service to the X10 / X11, it would solve many of the issue with all of Blyth's services (bar the 308 and the Blyth / Wansbeck / Morpeth locals) with no PVR increase.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:19 pm)DaveyBowyer Guys, the simple problem with the X8 is the lack of time the service gets between Blyth and Quroum because of the following:
- Bebside
- Shankhouse / Three Horse Shoes / Horton Road
- Cramlington
- Moor Farm (F*****g nightmare that one is)
- Annitsford Roundabout
- West Moor / Camperdown / A189
If extra time was added with the route running between Newcastle and Cramlington only during Monday to Saturday with the section between Blyth and Cramlington covered by a sister service to the X10 / X11, it would solve many of the issue with all of Blyth's services (bar the 308 and the Blyth / Wansbeck / Morpeth locals) with no PVR increase.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:25 pm)Adrian The X12 had similar issues, and those between Sedgefield and Durham suffered as a result, losing a third of their hourly services.
You can only cut so much, before you lose sight of your purpose as a business - to serve the customer.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:25 pm)Adrian The X12 had similar issues, and those between Sedgefield and Durham suffered as a result, losing a third of their hourly services.
You can only cut so much, before you lose sight of your purpose as a business - to serve the customer.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:28 pm)mb134 I think there needs to be a simplification of the X8 service, perhaps:The actual section between Cramlington and Newcastle would certainly improve with extra time given to cope with the blackspots such as Moor Farm Roundabout. But the Northern section needs absorbed into another service for this to happen which would mean no PVR increase at all.
Run it Blyth to Bebside ASDA as it usually does, then straight down the Spine Road to the Moor Farm roundabout, and continue the usual route from there?
The 43 can take passengers from Shankhouse etc to Newcastle, where they can change onto a bus to Quorum?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:28 pm)mb134 I think there needs to be a simplification of the X8 service, perhaps:The actual section between Cramlington and Newcastle would certainly improve with extra time given to cope with the blackspots such as Moor Farm Roundabout. But the Northern section needs absorbed into another service for this to happen which would mean no PVR increase at all.
Run it Blyth to Bebside ASDA as it usually does, then straight down the Spine Road to the Moor Farm roundabout, and continue the usual route from there?
The 43 can take passengers from Shankhouse etc to Newcastle, where they can change onto a bus to Quorum?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:28 pm)mb134 I think there needs to be a simplification of the X8 service, perhaps:
Run it Blyth to Bebside ASDA as it usually does, then straight down the Spine Road to the Moor Farm roundabout, and continue the usual route from there?
The 43 can take passengers from Shankhouse etc to Newcastle, where they can change onto a bus to Quorum?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:28 pm)mb134 I think there needs to be a simplification of the X8 service, perhaps:
Run it Blyth to Bebside ASDA as it usually does, then straight down the Spine Road to the Moor Farm roundabout, and continue the usual route from there?
The 43 can take passengers from Shankhouse etc to Newcastle, where they can change onto a bus to Quorum?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:50 pm)X8X9X10 So you're suggesting the X8 omits Cramlington and have the 43 pick up the slack, but ignoring the fact that the 43 follows the same route as X10/X11 from Cramlington Shops out of the town meaning there'd then be no Newcastle service at all for the areas where only the X8 serves?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:50 pm)X8X9X10 So you're suggesting the X8 omits Cramlington and have the 43 pick up the slack, but ignoring the fact that the 43 follows the same route as X10/X11 from Cramlington Shops out of the town meaning there'd then be no Newcastle service at all for the areas where only the X8 serves?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:39 pm)DaveyBowyer The actual section between Cramlington and Newcastle would certainly improve with extra time given to cope with the blackspots such as Moor Farm Roundabout. But the Northern section needs absorbed into another service for this to happen which would mean no PVR increase at all.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:39 pm)DaveyBowyer The actual section between Cramlington and Newcastle would certainly improve with extra time given to cope with the blackspots such as Moor Farm Roundabout. But the Northern section needs absorbed into another service for this to happen which would mean no PVR increase at all.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm)mb134 I'm sure that, for the bits of Cramlington that the X8 currently serves, at least one other bus serves them?
The 57 serves Klondyke, the X9 and 57 serve High Pit.
Changing buses is something lots of people have to do on a daily basis
(08 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm)mb134 I'm sure that, for the bits of Cramlington that the X8 currently serves, at least one other bus serves them?
The 57 serves Klondyke, the X9 and 57 serve High Pit.
Changing buses is something lots of people have to do on a daily basis
(08 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm)mb134 I'm sure that, for the bits of Cramlington that the X8 currently serves, at least one other bus serves them?
The 57 serves Klondyke, the X9 and 57 serve High Pit.
Changing buses is something lots of people have to do on a daily basis
(08 Mar 2016, 10:56 pm)mb134 I'm sure that, for the bits of Cramlington that the X8 currently serves, at least one other bus serves them?
The 57 serves Klondyke, the X9 and 57 serve High Pit.
Changing buses is something lots of people have to do on a daily basis
(08 Mar 2016, 11:46 pm)BusLoverMum Having to change bus can turn a 30 minute journey into a hour. That's 5 hours a week lost for someone working full time with the possibility of more expensive travel.
(08 Mar 2016, 11:46 pm)BusLoverMum Having to change bus can turn a 30 minute journey into a hour. That's 5 hours a week lost for someone working full time with the possibility of more expensive travel.
(08 Mar 2016, 11:46 pm)BusLoverMum Having to change bus can turn a 30 minute journey into a hour. That's 5 hours a week lost for someone working full time with the possibility of more expensive travel.
(08 Mar 2016, 11:55 pm)Jimmi Have to agree here, the amount of time that can be added onto journeys with having to connect between two or more buses can be significant even on services with fairly high frequencies, even on my journeys home from New College Durham at Framwellgate Moor - Newton Aycliffe when the 7 started terminating at Durham Bus Station instead of Framwellgate Moor (except a few peak runs) My journey times saw an increase from 55 minutes to around 1 hour, 30 minutes, some nights it was closer to two hours! This was all down to bad connection times between buses and the 64 being a pile of garbage as it was always late or never turned up!
(08 Mar 2016, 11:46 pm)BusLoverMum Having to change bus can turn a 30 minute journey into a hour. That's 5 hours a week lost for someone working full time with the possibility of more expensive travel.
(08 Mar 2016, 11:55 pm)Jimmi Have to agree here, the amount of time that can be added onto journeys with having to connect between two or more buses can be significant even on services with fairly high frequencies, even on my journeys home from New College Durham at Framwellgate Moor - Newton Aycliffe when the 7 started terminating at Durham Bus Station instead of Framwellgate Moor (except a few peak runs) My journey times saw an increase from 55 minutes to around 1 hour, 30 minutes, some nights it was closer to two hours! This was all down to bad connection times between buses and the 64 being a pile of garbage as it was always late or never turned up!
I used to live in East Cramlington and was a regular user of the old x25/x26 (x5/x6) now numbered x8, it used to provide a direct service into Newcastle operating directly via the spine road and South Gosforth after serving Annitsford. However Arriva then started messing around with the route, as well as the service number sending it around everywhere adding easily another 20 minutes to the journey time. It has since been sped up missing out some of the longer diversions, like the freeman, but I now find it much quicker and easier to drive to Ilford road and get the metro.
Most areas not to sure so may not get it exactly wright.
X17. Newcastle -kingston park-Ponteland -morpeth-ashington -wansbeck hospital
Monday to sunday
Mon to sat every hour
Sunday every 2 hours
The whole route would take around 1 hour 25 mins so a bit longer than the x21.
This route will run to kingston park providing a link to northumberland then the 79 route this would mean more frequent service in morpeth the service will run direct to Ashington handy for commuters then down to wansbeck hospital with the service extending to the hospital one 1 will ternamate at Ashington.
Mon to sat the service could be ran by ashington using mpds
Sunday jesmond could run it using a solo but interworking with another service.
With this service introduced the 1 will decrease by 1 vehcile
(27 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Most areas not to sure so may not get it exactly wright.
X17. Newcastle -kingston park-Ponteland -morpeth-ashington -wansbeck hospital
Monday to sunday
Mon to sat every hour
Sunday every 2 hours
The whole route would take around 1 hour 25 mins so a bit longer than the x21.
This route will run to kingston park providing a link to northumberland then the 79 route this would mean more frequent service in morpeth the service will run direct to Ashington handy for commuters then down to wansbeck hospital with the service extending to the hospital one 1 will ternamate at Ashington.
Mon to sat the service could be ran by ashington using mpds
Sunday jesmond could run it using a solo but interworking with another service.
With this service introduced the 1 will decrease by 1 vehcile
(27 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Most areas not to sure so may not get it exactly wright.
X17. Newcastle -kingston park-Ponteland -morpeth-ashington -wansbeck hospital
Monday to sunday
Mon to sat every hour
Sunday every 2 hours
The whole route would take around 1 hour 25 mins so a bit longer than the x21.
This route will run to kingston park providing a link to northumberland then the 79 route this would mean more frequent service in morpeth the service will run direct to Ashington handy for commuters then down to wansbeck hospital with the service extending to the hospital one 1 will ternamate at Ashington.
Mon to sat the service could be ran by ashington using mpds
Sunday jesmond could run it using a solo but interworking with another service.
With this service introduced the 1 will decrease by 1 vehcile