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Michael   22 Mar 2016, 2:00 pm
New timetable for the X81/185/681 - on the 25th March - http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/76354.98

Changes are inline with the AD122 starting, 185 extended to Birdoswald Roman Fort

The new timetable shows the new SOLO Sr's.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael   24 Mar 2016, 4:18 pm
17th April Changes

http://www.simplygo.com/news/changes-to-...m-17-april

  • The 45, 46 and 47 services will be ran by both single and double-deck buses. 

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
S813 FVK   24 Mar 2016, 4:22 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 4:18 pm)Michael wrote 17th April Changes

http://www.simplygo.com/news/changes-to-...m-17-april

Confirms that the 45/46/47 will be interworking, too.
S813 FVK   24 Mar 2016, 4:46 pm
(18 Mar 2016, 5:37 pm)S813 FVK wrote Scholars service 822 will be changed to run non-stop from Consett to Lanchester St Bede's (or at least to Leadgate), missing out Sherburn Terrace.

Full school bus changes are below:

- 822 will operate non-stop from Consett Bus Station to St Bede's. It will not stop at Sherburn Terrace. 
- 819 will omit Consett Bus Station, to provide extra capacity for students on Sherburn Terrace.

Could this change and the retiming of the X78 (which runs onto the AM 822) be connected?
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Ambassador   24 Mar 2016, 5:35 pm
Hate it when they say timetable revised and offer no details especially with the Angel.

It normally means stealth cuts

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
WestDurhamSwift   24 Mar 2016, 6:33 pm
"The weekday journey at 8.05am from Stanley is revised to run in school holidays only"

I currently get this journey from Lanchester and its usually full, I originally got the 8:35 departur e(which was always later, thus missing the connecting X30 to Newcastle) for some time after the original changes. 

I really hope they've retimed the 8:35 to include it getting stuck at St Bedes every morning
Andreos1   24 Mar 2016, 6:39 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 5:35 pm)Ambassador wrote Hate it when they say timetable revised and offer no details  especially with the Angel.

It normally means stealth cuts

Like the following? It seems to me the 82/A is seeing a reduction in frequency around Vigo and Barley Mow.
 
  • Alternate Sunday journeys run as service 82B, which additionally serve Harraton and Rickleton, omitting The Drive, Windemere and Dunvegan.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
DanPicken   24 Mar 2016, 6:43 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 6:39 pm)Andreos1 wrote Like the following? It seems to me the 82/A is seeing a reduction in frequency around Vigo and Barley Mow.
 

And they tell you about the changes but wait to put times in.
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Andreos1   24 Mar 2016, 6:58 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 6:43 pm)DanPicken wrote And they tell you about the changes but wait to put times in.

Would love to know which side of the clock is missing the estates out and which isn't.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
wise owl   24 Mar 2016, 7:47 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 6:58 pm)Andreos1 wrote Would love to know which side of the clock is missing the estates out and which isn't.

Not 100% sure if i read this on the forum or if it was discussed at depot level, service 50 on eves/sunday was to follow daytime route (past nissan & serving ayton again, therefore could the 82B be replacing the 50a between washington, harraton & rickleton?
And in reality contracts are agreed with nexus. So who takes the blame if estates only see a 2hr service?
L469 YVK   24 Mar 2016, 7:52 pm
What will the long term strategy be for the 45/46/47 then in terms of allocations? Will GNE decide to go with Single Decks across the board or try and push growth for double decks?
Michael   24 Mar 2016, 7:53 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 7:47 pm)wise owl wrote Not 100% sure if i read this on the forum or if it was discussed at depot level, service 50 on eves/sunday was to follow daytime route (past nissan & serving ayton again, therefore could the 82B be replacing the 50a between washington, harraton & rickleton?
And in reality contracts are agreed with nexus. So who takes the blame if estates only see a 2hr service?

On the link posted earlier with the changes on:


Whey Aye Five-O 50 

Service retimed to improve reliability, and diverted via Ayton to re-instate service in this area following passenger requests. 
Sunday daytime service now runs as normal service 50, with passengers from Rickleton being able to travel on new service 82B.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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wise owl   24 Mar 2016, 7:55 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 7:53 pm)Michael wrote On the link posted earlier with the changes on:


Whey Aye Five-O 50 

Service retimed to improve reliability, and diverted via Ayton to re-instate service in this area following passenger requests. 
Sunday daytime service now runs as normal service 50, with passengers from Rickleton being able to travel on new service 82B.

That says to me that the 82b will operate every hour.
Michael   24 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 7:52 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote What will the long term strategy be for the 45/46/47 then in terms of allocations? Will GNE decide to go with Single Decks across the board or try and push growth for double decks?

For the time being, it seems GNE are using both Single/deckers on the Red Kite services as it says:


The 45, 46 and 47 services will be ran by both single and double-deck buses.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
wise owl   24 Mar 2016, 8:01 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm)Michael wrote For the time being, it seems GNE are using both Single/deckers on the Red Kite services as it says:


The 45, 46 and 47 services will be ran by both single and double-deck buses.
It'll work well because some journeys from the metro leave with standees on 45/46s.
Adrian   24 Mar 2016, 8:11 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 4:18 pm)Michael wrote 17th April Changes

http://www.simplygo.com/news/changes-to-...m-17-april

  • The 45, 46 and 47 services will be ran by both single and double-deck buses. 
It's getting a bit repetitive with the 50. It'd be nice for a route to be chosen and stuck to, rather than constantly faffing on whether it'll serve Ayton or not.

I don't think the mixed allocation and interworking on the Red Kites is a good idea either. A standard was given to the 45/46 that they'd have eLeather seating, Next stop and plug sockets. There's now a chance they won't receive that level of service, unless the B9TLs are retrofitted.

The timing changes for reliability are obviously welcome, and hopefully it works out to improve the service for those users.

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LeeCalder   24 Mar 2016, 8:17 pm
So Barley Mow has no sunday service at all? Thanks....
wise owl   24 Mar 2016, 8:44 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 8:11 pm)Adrian wrote It's getting a bit repetitive with the 50. It'd be nice for a route to be chosen and stuck to, rather than constantly faffing on whether it'll serve Ayton or not.

I don't think the mixed allocation and interworking on the Red Kites is a good idea either. A standard was given to the 45/46 that they'd have eLeather seating, Next stop and plug sockets. There's now a chance they won't receive that level of service, unless the B9TLs are retrofitted.

The timing changes for reliability are obviously welcome, and hopefully it works out to improve the service for those users.

B9s are recieving usb sockets and nsa as mentioned by dan.
Michael   24 Mar 2016, 8:48 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 8:11 pm)Adrian wrote It's getting a bit repetitive with the 50. It'd be nice for a route to be chosen and stuck to, rather than constantly faffing on whether it'll serve Ayton or not.

I don't think the mixed allocation and interworking on the Red Kites is a good idea either. A standard was given to the 45/46 that they'd have eLeather seating, Next stop and plug sockets. There's now a chance they won't receive that level of service, unless the B9TLs are retrofitted.

The timing changes for reliability are obviously welcome, and hopefully it works out to improve the service for those users.

Lets hope these changes to the 50 work, the 50A will be dropped to on a Evening/Sunday

Ye, i don't think the Red Kites mixed allocations will work either.. Hopefully as mentioned, they'll get retrofitted, if not no doubt some will complain..

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
S813 FVK   24 Mar 2016, 8:50 pm
I think it would have been the perfect opportunity to renumber service 5 to 50A, just to keep the service number in some way consistent with the brand. At the moment, it will only meet the 'Whey Aye Five' part of the brand. I appreciate it won't make a massive difference to customers, but I just thought something like that would have been quite nice.
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DanPicken   24 Mar 2016, 9:15 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 8:17 pm)LeeCalder wrote So Barley Mow has no sunday service at all? Thanks....
Come on, GNE love ditching areas with no buses.
Tom   24 Mar 2016, 9:18 pm
How will there be no service in Barley Mow? Won't it not just be the 82/82A as it is now but have a 82B serving Harraton and Rickleton?
Jackamcardle   24 Mar 2016, 9:46 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 7:57 pm)Michael wrote For the time being, it seems GNE are using both Single/deckers on the Red Kite services as it says:


The 45, 46 and 47 services will be ran by both single and double-deck buses.

Stupid idea, the 47 will not cope in the mornings and evenings with a streetlite. The service is extremely busy at times, whereas if the 45/46 stay on time (which is difficult, i know they've only tried like 8 times) they are fine with using streetlites.

WHAT ARE THEY THINKING!!
citaro5284   24 Mar 2016, 9:47 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 9:46 pm)Jackamcardle wrote Stupid idea, the 47 will not cope in the mornings and evenings with a streetlite.

WHAT ARE THEY THINKING!!

Use to cope with single deckers......

(24 Mar 2016, 9:15 pm)DanPicken wrote Come on, GNE love ditching areas with no buses.

Name them
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Jackamcardle   24 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 9:47 pm)citaro5284 wrote Use to cope with single deckers......


Name them

It's a bit like the X1, that used Mercs, but it never could now.

I go on the 47 in the mornings and I think the same thing.

Same thing happened with Tens too...
omnicity4659   24 Mar 2016, 9:49 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 9:47 pm)citaro5284 wrote Name them

Get in there Citaro! Wink
citaro5284   24 Mar 2016, 9:50 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm)Jackamcardle wrote It's a bit like the X1, that used Mercs, but it never could now.

I go on the 47 in the mornings and I think the same thing.

Same thing happened with Tens too...

Ah, so the passenger data GNE have is not right?
Jackamcardle   24 Mar 2016, 9:50 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 9:50 pm)citaro5284 wrote Ah, so the passenger data GNE have is not right?

In my opinion, No
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Malarkey   24 Mar 2016, 9:53 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 9:50 pm)Jackamcardle wrote In my opinion, No

Care to "Elaborate" on that then  Tongue

Ohh and I am look forwarding DanPicks response to Citaro5284.
Jackamcardle   24 Mar 2016, 9:56 pm
(24 Mar 2016, 9:53 pm)Malarkey wrote Care to "Elaborate" on that then  Tongue

Ohh and I am look forwarding DanPicks response to Citaro5284.

I just think that the 47 gets really busy at times and will not be able to cope with single deckers. As well as, I don't think that the 45/46 gets high enough numbers to need double deckers. Anyway, we'll just have to see who's right on the 18 April (not 17th because it's a Sunday and they're not as busy anyway)
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