(29 Mar 2016, 11:51 pm)dannygee wrote Will there be a launch event for the new indigo solos?

Go North East doesn't have to do a launch for every single new bus or brand.

(30 Mar 2016, 9:53 am)GMitchelhill wrote Go North East doesn't have to do a launch for every single new bus or brand.

Course they do...Keep us enthusiasts happy

Nah seriously I agree with you..they dont need to do a launch for every little thing 😀

(30 Mar 2016, 9:58 am)MrFozz wrote Course they do...Keep us enthusiasts happy

Nah seriously I agree with you 😀

They probably thought not to for IndiGo as I don't think they would want to hear some enthusiasts thoughts on the branding

(24 Mar 2016, 4:18 pm)Michael wrote 17th April Changes

http://www.simplygo.com/news/changes-to-...m-17-april

• The 45, 46 and 47 services will be ran by both single and double-deck buses. 
  

New timetables are now getting put online.

(30 Mar 2016, 10:26 am)Michael wrote New timetables are now getting put online.

Not for me they aren't.

(30 Mar 2016, 10:26 am)Michael wrote New timetables are now getting put online.

5 timetable shows omni, 50 timetable still shows solar   

Red Kite Boards Total PVR Monday to Saturday daytime = 14 Vehicles

Service 46 (TO NCL) and Service 45 (TO CON) = PVR 5
Consett 46 = 00:47, 01:17, 01:47, 02:17, 02:47
Newcastle 46 = 01:52
Newcastle 45 = 02:00
Consett 45 = 03:02

Service 45 (TO NCL); Service 47; Service 46 (TO CON) = PVR 9
Consett 45 = 00:57, 01:27, 01:57, 02:27, 02:57, 03:27, 03:57, 04:27, 04:57
Newcastle 45 = 02:02
Newcastle 47 = 02:10
Blackhall Mill 47 = 03:05
Blackhall Mill 47 = 03:14
Newcastle 47 = 04:12
Newcastle 46 = 04:20
Consett 46 = 05:22

Red Kite Boards Total PVR Sunday daytime = 9 Vehicles

Services 45 / 46 = PVR 5

Consett 46(45) = 00:36, 01:06 (45), 01:36, 02:06 (45), 02:36
Newcastle 46 = 01:36
Newcastle 46 = 01:45
Consett 46 = 02:44 - Following a 22 minute layover, the bus will then commence a similar pattern on service 45.

Service 47 = PVR 4
Blackhall Mill 47 = 00:26, 00:56, 01:26, 01:56
Newcastle 47 = 01:21
Newcastle 47 = 01:30
Blackhall Mill 47 = 02:22

Having the read the changes on the website, the 78A will now serve Beamish Museum Entrance? If so, why are the times that it will serve there not on the new timetable (timetable for 8/8A only) given that it is listed as a point on the timetable?

Already sniffed out 1x potential odd working on the Red Kites:

NCL Arrival: 16:45 (47), 17:00 (46), 17:15 (45)

NCL Depart: 16:55 (46) (worked of the 16:45 arrival of the 47), 17:05 (45) 17:15 (47)

So either the 17:05 will have just a 5 minute layover (which defeats the whole purpuse of the improved reliability) with the 17:15 47 getting presumably an Omnidekka (or other type) or the 17:05 45 gets the Omnidekka (or other type) with the 17:15 45 working off the 17:00 46 arrival (Streetlite or B9TL).

(30 Mar 2016, 6:03 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote Already sniffed out 1x potential odd working on the Red Kites:

NCL Arrival: 17:00 (46), 17:15 (45)

NCL Depart: 17:05 (45) (worked of the 16:45 arrival of the 47), 17:15 (47)

So either the 17:05 will have just a 5 minute layover (which defeats the whole purpuse of the improved reliability) with the 17:15 47 getting presumably an Omnidekka (or other type) or the 17:05 45 gets the Omnidekka (or other type) with the 17:15 45 working off the 17:00 46 arrival (Streetlite or B9TL).

Could possibly work off the 827 scholars (bedes to rowlands gill), maybe a branded B9 might do the 14.52 into consett then the 827, light to newcastle for the 17.05 departure, with the beamish streetlite operating the next departure the B9 would've been due to do. Now stanley doesn't have the c2c streetlites to cover.

What do you think GNE will do long term then. Do you think they will continue with a mixed allocation or move entirely to either single or double decks?

Bear in mind that the improved reliability will reduce the need of standees. I've already tried matching the 47 arrivals into Newcastle between 0700 and 0900 with the departures between 1600 and 1800 with little joy bar 1 or perhaps 2x runs. Will try again tomorrow to confirm.

This question has been put forward several times already...

I think that the double deck and single deck allocations on thr 45/46 and 47 may work and they must have some plan to leave it like that given that there is talks of having them retrofitted with USB sockets and Next Stop Announcements.

(30 Mar 2016, 10:33 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote What do you think GNE will do long term then. Do you think they will continue with a mixed allocation or move entirely to either single or double decks?

Bear in mind that the improved reliability will reduce the need of standees. I've already tried matching the 47 arrivals into Newcastle between 0700 and 0900 with the departures between 1600 and 1800 with little joy bar 1 or perhaps 2x runs. Will try again tomorrow to confirm.

I can't see the 47 coping with Streetlites to be fair. Even at midday today I saw one going through Chopwell and it was quite busy then so will be loads worse at peak times.

And doesn't look like the double decker a will be fitted with USB sockets/NSAs as the timetable says double decker buses will only have WiFi. Shame really.

(30 Mar 2016, 10:45 pm)Tom wrote I can't see the 47 coping with Streetlites to be fair. Even at midday today I saw one going through Chopwell and it was quite busy then so will be loads worse at peak times.

And doesn't look like the double decker a will be fitted with USB sockets/NSAs as the timetable says double decker buses will only have WiFi. Shame really.

I agree, The 47 has grown in passenger numbers to warrant Double Deckers now there downgrading it to Streetlites for most runs.
The B9s I think should have atleast Sockets and NSAs to fit in with the Streetlites, If it doesn't it tarnishes the brand in my opinion.

(30 Mar 2016, 10:51 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote I agree, The 47 has grown in passenger numbers to warrant Double Deckers now there downgrading it to Streetlites for most runs.
The B9s I think should have atleast Sockets and NSAs to fit in with the Streetlites, If it doesn't it tarnishes the brand in my opinion.

Exactly - hopefully they do though I doubt it as the new timetable says the double deck buses will only have WiFi.

But the ultimate question with the 47 is how many of these 'packed to the rafters' runs are late by more than 5 minutes? If these runs are running to time, then fair enough. And don't forget that this week and next week is the school holidays so there's bound to be more passengers travelling outside of the usual 'peak' periods and this coupled with a tight turnaround / timetable (more the former) could well be causing the need for deckers on the 47.

The deckers are no good if they're not being utilised on the busiest runs between 0700-0900 and 1600-1800 and that doesn't include any usual fully seated 45 / 46 with 1 or 2 standees. GNE will need to decide at somepoint whether or not to bite the bullet and go fully double deck or order 4x Streetlites. As long as buses are keeping to time, then the need for deckers should be at a minimum for these routes.

Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham Bus Station and Metrocentre, Interchange given service number X22/937 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/288 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Hartlepool, Marina Way given service number X35 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/291 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Newcastle New Bridge Street given service number 56/N56 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/307 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Parkside Heathway given service number 60 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/325 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between PETERLEE BUS STATION and WINGATE given service number 206 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/341 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between SUNDERLAND PARK LANE INTERCHANGE and SUNDERLAND PARK LANE INTERCHANGE given service number 61 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/405 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Doxford, International, Admiral Way and Pennywell, Prestbury Road given service number 39/39A effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/417 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stanley Bus Station and Sunderland Park Lane interchange given service number 8/8A effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/420 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birtley Town Centre and Heworth metro given service number 82/82A/82B/83 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/442 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Newcastle Monument Market Street given service number X36 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/450 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange given service number 700/701 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Stopping Places.

PB0002400/551 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Vicarage Estate, Church View and Washington Galleries Bus Station given service number 2 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/552 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between DURHAM BUS STATION and SOUTH SHIELDS BUS STATION given service number 20/20A/X20 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/554 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between LOW MOORSLEY, FRONT STREET/CHESTER- LE- STREET and HEWORTH METRO given service number 35/35A/36 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/556 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between SUNDERLAND FAWCETT STREET and ADMIRAL WAY/WILLIAM DOXFORD CENTRE given service number 33 effective from 22-May-2016.

PB0002400/557 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between CONCORD BUS STATION and WASHINGTON STEPHENSON INDUSTRIAL ESTATE given service number 982 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/558 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between SEABURN, WHITBURN ROAD and SILKSWORTH, CHURCH VIEW given service number 99/99A effective from 22-May-2016.

PB0002400/559 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between SUNDERLAND PARK LANE INTERCHANGE and HOUGHTON-LE-SPRING given service number 38 effective from 22-May-2016.

PB0002400/560 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchannge/Fence Houses Avenue and Barnwell The Limes given service number 238 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/594 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange
Finish Point: Ryhope, Tunstall Bank Estate
Via:
Service Number: 38
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 22-MAY-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (except public holidays) Sunday (and public holidays)

PB0002400/595 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Sunderland Docks, Barrack Street
Finish Point: Silksworth, Church View
Via:
Service Number: 33
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 22-MAY-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (except public holidays)

PB0003954/86 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Gateshead Metro and Gateshead Metro given service number 93/94 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/505 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between North Shields Rudyard Street and Sunderland Park Lane interchange given service number 9 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

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That 33 route is random...

Looks like GNE are taking over the 5/5A to the docks section combining it with the 33.

(31 Mar 2016, 10:19 am)Tom wrote Looks like GNE are taking over the 5/5A to the docks section combining it with the 33.

Ye, did not expect GNE to take it over.

(31 Mar 2016, 10:20 am)Michael wrote Ye, did not expect GNE to take it over.

Will this mean the 33 won't interwork with the 39

(31 Mar 2016, 10:20 am)Michael wrote Ye, did not expect GNE to take it over.

I did!!

Also looks like the 99 is withdrawn.

The long 38 is going too.

Not surprised at all.
Carries as much fresh air as the 35a did when that went to Rainton Bridge.

A through route, similar to the 20a may work better, as the service isn't so reliant on customers only heading to Rainton Bridge then.

Wonder if the 35/36 changes are connected?

(31 Mar 2016, 11:12 am)Tom wrote Also looks like the 99 is withdrawn.

A new one could be put on at a later date but not shocked if it does get withdrawn.

(31 Mar 2016, 11:03 am)Dan wrote I did!!

It just seems random that its GNE, thought it could of been a independent company.

Going back to the changes.

Is the 39A for the times that the 39 are secured?

(31 Mar 2016, 12:12 pm)Michael wrote A new one could be put on at a later date but not shocked if it does get withdrawn.

What will people for the airshow do?

(31 Mar 2016, 2:24 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote What will people for the airshow do?

Use the airshow shuttles, perhaps.............?

(31 Mar 2016, 2:24 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote What will people for the airshow do?

(31 Mar 2016, 2:35 pm)R852 PRG wrote Use the airshow shuttles, perhaps.............?

The extended use of ellipsis here comes across as if you're suggesting that this is a silly question, R852 PRG, when quite frankly that's not the case. Given that Biglugs lives in the North Sunderland Estates, he's probably well equipped to comment on high usage of this service on an airshow weekend, but sadly there's just no commercial viability in operating the service for a special event which occurs annually, one weekend.

To answer the question... Passengers in Downhill and Hylton Red House will have the option of travelling of using the Park & Ride service from the Community North Sports Complex, Downhill on Kingsway North; passengers from Silksworth, Town End Farm and Southwick will have the option of travelling to the City Centre on services 35/36 followed by a connection to the A1 service; but passengers from Pallion will have no other option but to use a Stagecoach bus and the appropriate connecting service to the airshow.

Pallion have the 10/11 to the city centre, most of the people who live in Pallion probables use Stagecoach buses.

The 18 also runs to Seaburn during the Saturday so that's another bus.

Sundays they would have to go to city centre and connect with the 501? Or the E's..