Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2013

[citaro5284]

We have to complete on a 3 monthly basis what route GNE Hybrids operate on as the Dft wants to know what we bid for is what the buses are being used for.

However, I see the Arriva 308 vehicles on loads of different services....X4, X5 and X10 mainly. How can this be allowed when they were given money from the Government to improve the 308 route?

[Tom]

We have to complete on a 3 monthly basis what route GNE Hybrids operate on as the Dft wants to know what we bid for is what the buses are being used for.

However, I see the Arriva 308 vehicles on loads of different services....X4, X5 and X10 mainly. How can this be allowed when they were given money from the Government to improve the 308 route?

Yeah, totally agree! - I mean, it's not daily it happens, but quite a few times I've saw the Hybrids on the X10/X11.

[Davey Bowyer]

It could simply be down to the fact that they're not suited for the 308 and therefore, they're putting the minimum amount they're getting away with on the 308 and using the rest for the Quorum Expresses, X10, X11 and X13 due to the fact that the timetables are less demanding than what the 308 timetable is. Also, the hybrids do tend to struggle on the slip roads on the Coast Road thus making it a struggle to keep to timetable plus the factor of constantly stopping and starting. The reason that they're suited for the Green Angel for though is because the 21 stops at nearly every single stop making them worthwhile for Go North East because the 21 doesn't require the power and speed as much as Arriva's 308 requires to keep to time.

[citaro5284]

It could simply be down to the fact that they're not suited for the 308 and therefore, they're putting the minimum amount they're getting away with on the 308 and using the rest for the Quorum Expresses, X10, X11 and X13 due to the fact that the timetables are less demanding than what the 308 timetable is. Also, the hybrids do tend to struggle on the slip roads on the Coast Road thus making it a struggle to keep to timetable plus the factor of constantly stopping and starting. The reason that they're suited for the Green Angel for though is because the 21 stops at nearly every single stop making them worthwhile for Go North East because the 21 doesn't require the power and speed as much as Arriva's 308 requires to keep to time.

All of this is put into the bid, so if Hybrids were not suited for the 308, they should have received the money from the GBF

[tyresmoke]

Arriva North East - Rare and Odd Workings Summary, Week Commencing 7th October 2013

If you spot any errors, PM me and I will change this ASAP.

Monday, 7th October 2013

• DAF SB3000/Plaxton Prima 1213 (V213DJR) on service 55 (reported by citaro5284)
  
• Scania CN230UB/Scania Omnicity 4654 (NK05GXO) on the 28/30 (W179SCU)
  

Tuesday, 8th October 2013

• No reports
  

Wednesday, 9th October 2013

• No reports, but 1402 and 1403 have been repainted into ''Quorum Express'' livery (mdw921)
  

Thursday, 10th October 2013

• Volvo SB200/Wright Pulsar 1481 (NK61CYU) on service 685 (northern156)
  

Friday, 11th October 2013

• No reports
  

Saturday, 12th October 2013

• ''NexusBus'' Optare Solo 2816 (YK08ETO) on service 53 (W179SCU)
  

Sunday, 13th October 2013

• No reports
  

Can I ask everyone to report anything unusual or rare on here, so I can include it on this weekly report. Even if you don't think it is very unusual, still post it! If there isn't enough reports, I will have to withdraw this. Cheers!

4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though

[Tom]

4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though

I'll add that to the list

[Kuyoyo]

4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though

Now now Scott, there was more than that from
Stockton today

[tyresmoke]

Now now Scott, there was more than that from
Stockton today

To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

[Tom]

To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

1406 on the X66 is odd for a Sunday, is it?

[tyresmoke]

1406 on the X66 is odd for a Sunday, is it?

It's branded for X1 'The Best One' so is unusual any time Should be based at Bishop Auckland...
Temsa 4702 on service 5 again today, its been at Whitby all week though.

[Kuyoyo]

To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

I would still class 4048's appearance on X1 as rare - even rarer if it also did a 27A/27 before that
And 29-branded 1451 on 27/27A as well

[Tom]

What Prestiges do Blyth/Jesmond/Ashington have?

[Dan]

What Prestiges do Blyth/Jesmond/Ashington have?

Blyth - 4005 for disposal.

Jesmond - 4004 in frontline, 4054/60 for disposal.

Ashington - None.

[Tom]

Blyth - 4005 for disposal.

Jesmond - 4004 in frontline, 4054/60 for disposal.

Ashington - None.

Thanks

[Tom]

Allocation changes as of 5th October:

4004 Reserve - Jesmond (replacing 1213 to Ashington)
4072 Reserve - Jesmond (extra bus to combat late running on 43/45)

1213 Jesmond - Ashington (replacing 1211 to be converted to training coach)

4002/4027 Redcar - Disposal (end of 'peak' summer X93 timetable, PVR -2)

Have these fleet movements happened yet? - If so, is it likely 4004/4072 will be in service for much longer?

[Kuyoyo]

Have these fleet movements happened yet? - If so, is it likely 4004/4072 will be in service for much longer?

4004 hasn't ever left service at Jesmond after the Metro Replacements.

[Tom]

4004 hasn't ever left service at Jesmond after the Metro Replacements.

Oh - Excellent! - Has 4054/72 been in service recently?

[Coppercap40]

Seen today minus its Quorum brandings
Raymond

[Michael]

Which one? Lol

[tyresmoke]

Which one? Lol

7601 - been like that since July at least... Had a full repaint following accident repairs. Would have expected it to have been re-branded by now but there you go.