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biglugs@yahoo.com   02 Jun 2016, 6:39 pm
Are the 38c,135,36 going up for tender this year?

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Adrian   02 Jun 2016, 6:45 pm
(02 Jun 2016, 6:39 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Are the 38c,135,36 going up for tender this year?


No - July 2017 is when the current tenders expire for all three.

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biglugs@yahoo.com   02 Jun 2016, 6:47 pm
(02 Jun 2016, 6:45 pm)Adrian wrote No - July 2017 is when the current tenders expire for all three.

Cheers

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Dan   03 Jun 2016, 3:40 am
(02 Jun 2016, 5:51 pm)Dan wrote Yes - the new contract commences from 17th September 2016, and lasts until 2nd September 2017.

I'd forgotten to include details of the daytime 701 service being up for tender as per the daytime 700 and evening 701.

This is a one year contract between 17/09/16 and 07/17/17, with option to extend contract by one year. Vehicle specification is 1x low-floor Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 60.
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biglugs@yahoo.com   03 Jun 2016, 9:04 am
(03 Jun 2016, 3:40 am)Dan wrote I'd forgotten to include details of the daytime 701 service being up for tender as per the daytime 700 and evening 701.

This is a one year contract between 17/09/16 and 07/17/17, with option to extend contract by one year. Vehicle specification is 1x low-floor Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 60.

Will the bus on the 701 still run onto the 37?

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Michael   05 Jun 2016, 8:33 pm
Does anyone know what the time limit is between bidding starts for the contracts and when it ends..

So say it starts on 5th June, how long do companies have before it closes?

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Adrian   05 Jun 2016, 9:10 pm
(05 Jun 2016, 8:33 pm)Michael wrote Does anyone know what the time limit is between bidding starts for the contracts and when it ends..

So say it starts on 5th June, how long do companies have before it closes?

It depends really, but it'll be set out in the invitation to tender.

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Andreos1   08 Jun 2016, 8:47 am
(05 Jun 2016, 8:33 pm)Michael wrote Does anyone know what the time limit is between bidding starts for the contracts and when it ends..

So say it starts on 5th June, how long do companies have before it closes?


Just to add to Adrian's comments, Newcastle Council have just released a tender for the Go Smarter scheme. The bid/expressions of interest are from 0930 on the 6th June and it closes on the 28th June at 1000.
The estimated contract start date on 1st July. You can draw your own conclusions as to whether it will start on then or not Wink

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
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NK53 TKT   12 Jun 2016, 2:51 pm
(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan wrote Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Will the 33A still run or will the 33 be extended with the VOSA registration?
What will operate the 496?
What will operate the evening 19?

Sorry for the questions
Michael   13 Jun 2016, 7:14 pm
Any news on the 700/701 contract yet?

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Dan   13 Jun 2016, 7:16 pm
(13 Jun 2016, 7:14 pm)Michael wrote Any news on the 700/701 contract yet?

We've missed you, Michael!
Michael   13 Jun 2016, 7:20 pm
(13 Jun 2016, 7:16 pm)Dan wrote We've missed you, Michael!

Tongue, well i'm just catching up, i haven't had access to the forum for 3 days! Wink

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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biglugs@yahoo.com   13 Jun 2016, 7:28 pm
Are Gateshead central taxis within there rights to use vans or minibuses that are only for taxi use on services on the 592 and 593?
If it was the 515 nexus might come down tough

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Dan   14 Jun 2016, 5:16 am
(13 Jun 2016, 7:20 pm)Michael wrote Tongue, well i'm just catching up, i haven't had access to the forum for 3 days! Wink

To answer the question...

1.1         Timescales
 
The evaluation will consist of the following events and proposed timetable:

Issue Invitation to Tender (ITT) - 31 May 2016
ITT Response Deadline (noon) - 01 July 2016   
RFI Deadline (noon) - 17 June 2016
Award Announcement - circa 12 July 2016 
Commencement of Activity - 17 September 2016

There'll be no news on this one until at least the middle of next month, and that's assuming the award is announced on-time, in line with the above schedule.
Michael   14 Jun 2016, 8:07 am
(14 Jun 2016, 5:16 am)Dan wrote To answer the question...

1.1         Timescales
 
The evaluation will consist of the following events and proposed timetable:

Issue Invitation to Tender (ITT) - 31 May 2016
ITT Response Deadline (noon) - 01 July 2016   
RFI Deadline (noon) - 17 June 2016
Award Announcement - circa 12 July 2016 
Commencement of Activity - 17 September 2016

There'll be no news on this one until at least the middle of next month, and that's assuming the award is announced on-time, in line with the above schedule.

Least they are giving it a while before it's handed out, i hope GNE keep it.

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GuyParkRoyal   14 Jun 2016, 3:45 pm
(13 Jun 2016, 7:28 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Are Gateshead central taxis within there rights to use vans or minibuses that are only for taxi use on services on the 592 and 593?
If it was the 515 nexus might come down tough

Not unless they submitted a non complying tender response or have a contract variation from Nexus as the ITT requested a low floor vehicle with a capacity of 23.
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Tom   14 Jun 2016, 3:49 pm
(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan wrote Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Is there any more than these Dan? I'm sure there was a few more up for renewal, 84/84A etc.
peter   15 Jun 2016, 4:51 pm
(14 Jun 2016, 3:49 pm)Tom wrote Is there any more than these Dan? I'm sure there was a few more up for renewal, 84/84A etc.

I believe the only ones which remain unknown are the 84/84A, 335 and M71
Tom   26 Jun 2016, 4:17 pm
(15 Jun 2016, 4:51 pm)peter wrote I believe the only ones which remain unknown are the 84/84A, 335 and M71

84/84A seems to be Phoenix. No idea who could have took over the 335 and M71 if it's not GNE or Arriva. Phoenix again maybe?
NK53 TKT   26 Jun 2016, 5:02 pm
(26 Jun 2016, 4:17 pm)Tom wrote 84/84A seems to be Phoenix. No idea who could have took over the 335 and M71 if it's not GNE or Arriva. Phoenix again maybe?

GCT? Perhaps the 335 might be Kingsley's? JH Coaches have enough capacity to operate one of the above as do Stanley Travel and A-Line (having lost the M12)
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Tom   26 Jun 2016, 5:03 pm
(26 Jun 2016, 5:02 pm)NK53 TKT wrote GCT? Perhaps the 335 might be Kingsley's? JH Coaches have enough capacity to operate one of the above as do Stanley Travel and A-Line (having lost the M12)

I'm not sure to be honest - canny bit of light mileage for someone like JH and Kingsleys to be fair, could be Phoenix as they are taking on quite a bit it seems.
Dan   30 Jun 2016, 3:07 pm
July 24th 2016 Tender Awards

6/553 - Arriva North East
8X/939/836 - No Award (existing contract extended)
13/496 - Go North East
17 - No Award (existing contract extended)
18/18A - Arriva North East
19 - Go North East
29 - Go North East
32/32A - Arriva North East
33/33A - Go North East
59/359 - Phoenix Coaches
84/84A - Phoenix Coaches
168 - Go North East
333 - Phoenix Coaches
335 - Phoenix Coaches
M71 - Phoenix Coaches
W1/W1A - Phoenix Coaches
W2 - Pheonix Coaches
W3 - Phoenix Coaches
Tom   30 Jun 2016, 3:17 pm
(30 Jun 2016, 3:07 pm)Dan wrote July 24th 2016 Tender Awards

6/553 - Arriva North East
8X/939/836 - No Award (existing contract extended)
13/496 - Go North East
17 - No Award (existing contract extended)
18/18A - Arriva North East
19 - Go North East
29 - Go North East
32/32A - Arriva North East
33/33A - Go North East
59/359 - Phoenix Coaches
84/84A - Phoenix Coaches
168 - Go North East
333 - Phoenix Coaches
335 - Phoenix Coaches
M71 - Phoenix Coaches
W1/W1A - Phoenix Coaches
W2 - Pheonix Coaches
W3 - Phoenix Coaches

Bloody hell Phoenix are taking on a hell of a lot. Must be a combined PVR of about 11 on top of whatever they already operate. Good on them to be fair!
citaro5284   30 Jun 2016, 4:24 pm
(30 Jun 2016, 3:17 pm)Tom wrote Bloody hell Phoenix are taking on a hell of a lot. Must be a combined PVR of about 11 on top of whatever they already operate. Good on them to be fair!

I agree, lets hope they can recruit the drivers in time.
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Tom   30 Jun 2016, 4:25 pm
(30 Jun 2016, 4:24 pm)citaro5284 wrote I agree, lets hope they can recruit the drivers in time.

Saw a B10M going around Wallsend a couple of times advertising drivers. Wonder what buses they will use as they only have 2 E200s atm onto of the 3 or 4 Solos.
Phoenix Coaches   30 Jun 2016, 5:10 pm
(30 Jun 2016, 4:25 pm)Tom wrote Saw a B10M going around Wallsend a couple of times advertising drivers. Wonder what buses they will use as they only have 2 E200s atm onto of the 3 or 4 Solos.

Hi

Thought it would be a good idea to clear a few things up (saves all the speculation), we are pleased to have been awarded the above contracts and have (or are in the process of) adding to the fleet with the following

2 * Enviro 200's (ex Tates Travel)
2 * Optare Solo (ex weardale)
2 * Dennis Dart (ex go ahead London via Procters)
3 * Mellor Orion + - yet to be delivered as currently being built.

With regards drivers we have spent the past few months recruiting and training using our training bus (so far with a 100% practical test pass rate Wink which means we have enough drivers + extra to start the work on the 25th July.

I hope that helps !!
Tom   30 Jun 2016, 5:12 pm
(30 Jun 2016, 5:10 pm)Phoenix Coaches wrote Hi

Thought it would be a good idea to clear a few things up (saves all the speculation), we are pleased to have been awarded the above contracts and have (or are in the process of) adding to the fleet with the following

2 * Enviro 200's (ex Tates Travel)
2 * Optare Solo (ex weardale)
2 * Dennis Dart (ex go ahead London via Procters)
3 * Mellor Orion + - yet to be delivered as currently being built.

With regards drivers we have spent the past few months recruiting and training using our training bus (so far with a 100% practical test pass rate Wink which means we have enough drivers + extra to start the work on the 25th July.

I hope that helps !!

Great thanks for sharing that Smile
I'm guessing the Orions will be used on the services like the 359/59, W2 and M71?
NK53 TKT   30 Jun 2016, 6:01 pm
(30 Jun 2016, 5:10 pm)Phoenix Coaches wrote Hi

Thought it would be a good idea to clear a few things up (saves all the speculation), we are pleased to have been awarded the above contracts and have (or are in the process of) adding to the fleet with the following

2 * Enviro 200's (ex Tates Travel)
2 * Optare Solo (ex weardale)
2 * Dennis Dart (ex go ahead London via Procters)
3 * Mellor Orion + - yet to be delivered as currently being built.

With regards drivers we have spent the past few months recruiting and training using our training bus (so far with a 100% practical test pass rate Wink which means we have enough drivers + extra to start the work on the 25th July.

I hope that helps !!
Great, I will definitely be hunting down the E200s and darts, is there going to be a set plan for allocations and how large are the darts going to be?
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G-CPTN   30 Jun 2016, 6:57 pm
(30 Jun 2016, 6:01 pm)NK53 TKT wrote how large are the darts going to be?
Darts for Phoenix.
NK53 TKT   01 Jul 2016, 9:06 am
(30 Jun 2016, 6:57 pm)G-CPTN wrote Darts for Phoenix.

Not huge, I reckon the 335 will be for them
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