(17 May 2016, 6:00 am)jaimzm wrote they also could do a tesco bus

I've always seen Tesco as a tricky one for bus services in Hartlepool. It's just too far from the town to be accessible from existing routes and the old 516 service had such a convoluted route between the Town Centre & Tesco, and ran so infrequently, it wasn't practical as a shoppers bus.

They tried a service 2 aswell from Wynyard Road following the 3/4 route as far as York Road lights. But as it turned right and never served York or Park Road heading to Tesco, it was always destined to fail

If I was running hartlepool depot I'd have service 3/4 interwork 3 would change to 4 and 4 become a 3 at South fens I'd get rid of the darts and put Optare versa on it make 1A still go to Seaton and 1B to Middlesborough and 6/7 could stay they same and on a Sunday 36 and Sunday 1B could be ran by Stockton

(22 May 2016, 2:41 pm)jaimzm wrote If I was running hartlepool depot I'd have service 3/4 interwork 3 would change to 4 and 4 become a 3 at South fens I'd get rid of the darts and put Optare versa on it make 1A still go to Seaton and 1B to Middlesborough and 6/7 could stay they same and on a Sunday 36 and Sunday 1B could be ran by Stockton

If still like to see the 3&4 inter work at Bishop Cuthbert & Clavering. It's almost irritating that they don't quite meet up!

are services 10/11 and 23 worthy contenders for the "Dots" brand?.

(28 May 2016, 8:56 pm)cbma06 wrote are services 10/11 and 23 worthy contenders for the "Dots" brand?.

I like to think the 10/11 is in my opinion (I assume you mean South Shields) but it needs to be more frequent

(28 May 2016, 9:01 pm)NK53 TKT wrote I like to think the 10/11 is in my opinion (I assume you mean South Shields) but it needs to be more frequent

Sunderland area.

Stagecoach South Shields service suggestions
10/11-incresue times up to every 15 between South Shields-Low Simonside then extending to Jarrow every 30 minutes as it does now. Also increase the evening frequency to every 30 mintues

X34-increase to every 15 minutes but with two different rotues 
X34-South Shields-Newcastle via Westoe, Harton Nook ,Biddick Hall,Bolden express to Gateshead 
X34A-would do the current route of the X34.
Also both routes would run hourly on a Sunday giving a combined frequency of every 30 minutes between Harton Nook-Newcastle I also think the services should additionally stop at Heworth between Bolden and Gateshead

(20 Jun 2016, 3:12 pm)Ds1197 wrote Stagecoach South Shields service suggestions
10/11-incresue times up to every 15 between South Shields-Low Simonside then extending to Jarrow every 30 minutes as it does now. Also increase the evening frequency to every 30 mintues

X34-increase to every 15 minutes but with two different rotues 
X34-South Shields-Newcastle via Westoe, Harton Nook ,Biddick Hall,Bolden express to Gateshead 
X34A-would do the current route of the X34.
Also both routes would run hourly on a Sunday giving a combined frequency of every 30 minutes between Harton Nook-Newcastle I also think the services should additionally stop at Heworth between Bolden and Gateshead

The old 13 and 14 used to do that

(20 Jun 2016, 8:29 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote The old 13 and 14 used to do that

Although running a slightly different route on some sections, And the 13/14 was withdrawn around late 2009 I recall which is 7 Years ago.

(20 Jun 2016, 9:01 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Although running a slightly different route on some sections, And the 13/14 was withdrawn around late 2009 I recall which is 7 Years ago.

Yeah but I think the 10/11 needs to more frequent

(20 Jun 2016, 9:10 pm)Ds1197 wrote Yeah but I think the 10/11 needs to more frequent

They don't carry enough passengers already to even warrant the 30 min frequency let alone anything more frequent.

(20 Jun 2016, 9:32 pm)ifm001 wrote They don't carry enough passengers already to even warrant the 30 min frequency let alone anything more frequent.

Have you used it at a weekend?

(20 Jun 2016, 9:37 pm)Ds1197 wrote Have you used it at a weekend?

Every day. I live in middle of route. It's def not worthy of a frequency increase. Unless they reverted back to minibus with hail and ride sections iof route

(20 Jun 2016, 9:40 pm)ifm001 wrote Every day. I live in middle of route. It's def not worthy of a frequency increase. Unless they reverted back to minibus with hail and ride sections iof route

I live on the route and have to use it to get to and from work.

(20 Jun 2016, 9:45 pm)Ds1197 wrote I live on the route and have to use it to get to and from work.

A peak journey might help if thats what you are telling us

Suggestions for sunderland .
New 2.
Prestbury road - millfield - sunderland - southwick - hylton castle.
This service will join the 3 and 20 together allowing no bus change overs on evenings.
This service will run every 15 minutes using a pvr of 8.
3. Farringdon - Gilley law - plains farm - barnes - sunderland - southwick - town end farm.
This service will replace service 12 and 13 to town end farm on a every 15 minute frequency and serving both farringdon and Gilley law.
This service will operate at a pvr of 7.
4. Hylton castle - town end farm - downhill - red house estate - marley pots - carley hill - southwick - wheatsheaf - sunderland - barnes - farringdon - Doxford Park hall farm and mill hill.
This service will be revised to operate every 20 minutes.
This service gives a choice of bus at Hylton castle and provides a bus to different places.
This service serves both marley pots and carley hill to allow changes to service 16.
This service will serve both hall farm and mill hill.
The service will operate a pvr of 7.
5. Sunderland - hospital - broadway - springwell - Grindon - thorney close - East herrington - farringdon - Gilley law - thorney close.
This service will be revised to continue operating every 30 minutes but to replace service 18 and 19 in Grindon.
The service will also operate the opposite loop around East herrington to get people home quicker.
The service will ternamate at sunderland and only operate a loop round the estate.
6. Seaburn Morrisons - Dene estate - fullwell grange - southwick green - palion - royal hospital - broadway - thorney close ternamis.
This service will be introduced to replace service 18 and 19.
This service will operate every 30 minutes monday to Saturday day daytimes whilst additionaly running sunday day times every hour.
The service will serve dene estate giving connections to service 23.
This service gives people a sunday bus to seaburn that didnt have one.
The service operates to royal hospital before operating the same way as service 16 to the broadway.
The service will replace service 23 in thorney close.
7. Witherwack - carley hill - fullwell grange - seaburn metro - blue bell - wheatsheaf - sunderland - thornhill - barnes - thorney close - Grindon - hastings hill
This service replaces the 16 and 23 on a 20 minute frequency.
This service will operate hourly on sundays.
The service will provide new links from north estates to seaburn metro for metro connections.
The service operates to thorney close shops and not serving the 23s ternamis.
Service 6 replaces the parts in thorney close not served by the 7.
8. South hylton - hylton road - hospital - barnes - ashbrooke - Grangetown asda - Grangetown - sunderland.
This service replaces parts of route 18 and 19.
Passengers can change to service 2 for buses direct to town.
Service 12 and 13 will only operate sunderland to silksworth on every 20 minute frequency.
The 12 wont run on sundays.
Service 5 will continue to serve the docks on sundays

Dene Estate needs a link to the city centre

(23 Jun 2016, 8:32 pm)idiot wrote Dene Estate needs a link to the city centre

There is the e6 on dyklands road .
Also the 7 and e2 at seaburn metro.
Then Go north east buses at fullwell plus the metro.
Dene estate still has the 6 and 558.

(23 Jun 2016, 9:28 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote There is the e6 on dyklands road .
Also the 7 and e2 at seaburn metro.
Then Go north east buses at fullwell plus the metro.
Dene estate still has the 6 and 558.

Service 6 and 7?

(23 Jun 2016, 9:32 pm)Michael wrote Service 6 and 7?

I made that as the suggestion

(23 Jun 2016, 9:33 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote I made that as the suggestion

Ahh right, sorry for the confusion haha

The old people even use the bus to get to sea Road. Some might be able to get to down the hill to the local shops but have to get the bus back round the estate as they can't walk back up... It's a massive social need from Dene Estate to the city centre.

(20 Jun 2016, 9:01 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Although running a slightly different route on some sections, And the 13/14 was withdrawn around late 2009 I recall which is 7 Years ago.

Didnt gne's service 5 replace it or part replace it

Magic Bus M21.

Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Birtley - CLS

A good old fashioned bus war to take in the incumbents lazy and laid sea afire approach to the lucrative
Durham Rd corridor

(29 Jun 2016, 11:59 pm)Ambassador wrote Magic Bus M21.

Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Birtley - CLS

A good old fashioned bus war to take in the incumbents lazy and laid sea afire approach to the lucrative
Durham Rd corridor

I'm still waiting for Stagecoach Gold in this region

(29 Jun 2016, 9:55 pm)V514DFT wrote Didnt gne's service 5 replace it or part replace it

I believe so, as well as the GNE 87 between Jarrow and Fellgate.

(30 Jun 2016, 8:21 am)BJ10VUS wrote I believe so, as well as the GNE 87 between Jarrow and Fellgate.

Remember the 87, Was withdrawn around 1 or 2 years later after the 13/14.

Anyone remember the Short lived 18A extension past Brockeley Whins to Jarrow? Would have been a good link if only it ran during the day atleast...

(30 Jun 2016, 7:44 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Remember the 87, Was withdrawn around 1 or 2 years later after the 13/14.

Anyone remember the Short lived 18A extension past Brockeley Whins to Jarrow? Would have been a good link if only it ran during the day atleast...

The 87 was replaced by service 5 between Jarrow and Fellgate  the 13/14 were replaced by extended revised Services 10/11.
The 18A evening service was a tender that stagecoach won as a replacement for the then 88/88A which fir a short period of time operated daytimes only. Coincidentally at the same time that SNE operated 18A to Jarrow, GNE won the daily evening service X20 Fellgate to South Shields and uses Laser liveried citaros on it.

Feel free to move all of this to the bygone era if need be.

(30 Jun 2016, 9:42 pm)ifm001 wrote The 87 was replaced by service 5 between Jarrow and Fellgate  the 13/14 were replaced by extended revised Services 10/11.
The 18A evening service was a tender that stagecoach won as a replacement for the then 88/88A which fir a short period of time operated daytimes only. Coincidentally at the same time that SNE operated 18A to Jarrow, GNE won the daily evening service X20 Fellgate to South Shields and uses Laser liveried citaros on it.

Feel free to move all of this to the bygone era if need be.

I remember the Citaros on the X20, Was pretty short lived though like the 18A.
Correct me if I'm wrong, But evening and Sunday's X20s are still tendered, But were awarded to Stagecoach.