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James101

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03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm #1,601

If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

James101

03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm #1,601

If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

tyresmoke

5,323

03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm #1,602

(03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm)James101 If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

If I remember correctly they're 5 mins apart in Peterlee, off the same stand.
However one is a Sapphire bus, heading for Durham, and one is a Max bus (or will be) heading for Middlesbrough...

tyresmoke

03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm #1,602

(03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm)James101 If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

If I remember correctly they're 5 mins apart in Peterlee, off the same stand.
However one is a Sapphire bus, heading for Durham, and one is a Max bus (or will be) heading for Middlesbrough...

BusLoverMum

5,288

03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm #1,603

(03 Sep 2016, 10:59 am)Michael PB0002717/16 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and New Brancepeth given service number 48 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/165 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Metrocentre given service number X24 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/211 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Bishop Auckland given service number 5A/5 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/219 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Peterlee given service number X21 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/289 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stanhope and Durham given service number X46 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number X22 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/380 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Peterlee and Sunderland given service number X21 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/409 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Whitby Park & Ride and Whitby Park & Ride given service number P1/P2 effective from 31-Oct-2016.

Competition between GNE and Arriva?

I take it, X21 - Sunderland - Peterlee - then X22 Middlesbrough or X21 to Darlington?

The 21A never had an X21 stretch - only the 21 extended to Sunderland.

Unless there's significant changes to the routes, having the X tag beterrn Peterlee and Darlo or Boro is laughable, though. We're talking around 80 minutes for the journey!

BusLoverMum

03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm #1,603

(03 Sep 2016, 10:59 am)Michael PB0002717/16 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and New Brancepeth given service number 48 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/165 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Metrocentre given service number X24 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/211 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Bishop Auckland given service number 5A/5 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/219 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Peterlee given service number X21 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/289 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stanhope and Durham given service number X46 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number X22 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/380 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Peterlee and Sunderland given service number X21 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/409 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Whitby Park & Ride and Whitby Park & Ride given service number P1/P2 effective from 31-Oct-2016.

Competition between GNE and Arriva?

I take it, X21 - Sunderland - Peterlee - then X22 Middlesbrough or X21 to Darlington?

BusLoverMum

5,288

03 Sep 2016, 8:27 pm #1,604

(03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm)James101 If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

I would say no one would be that stupid, but someone did stand in the queue for the 22 at DBS, the other day, then rush over to the X22, complaining that it had arrived in the wrong stand. They got on it and went off in it, so I really hope they didn't get a nasty surprise when they ended up travelling through CLS!

BusLoverMum

03 Sep 2016, 8:27 pm #1,604

(03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm)James101 If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

Jimmi

10,977

03 Sep 2016, 8:28 pm #1,605

(03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm)BusLoverMum The 21A never had an X21 stretch - only the 21 extended to Sunderland.

Unless there's significant changes to the routes, having the X tag beterrn Peterlee and Darlo or Boro is laughable, though. We're talking around 80 minutes for the journey!

When the X21 first started, there was a X21 that ran onto the 21A from Peterlee operated by Stockton depot.

Arriva North East 4658 / NK05 GXN by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

There was also an additional Sunderland - Peterlee weekday afternoon journey ran by Belmont which worked off the 24X.

My YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9HTKdt...fk4ab9rDjQ
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/127079988@N02/

Jimmi

03 Sep 2016, 8:28 pm #1,605

(03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm)BusLoverMum The 21A never had an X21 stretch - only the 21 extended to Sunderland.

Unless there's significant changes to the routes, having the X tag beterrn Peterlee and Darlo or Boro is laughable, though. We're talking around 80 minutes for the journey!

When the X21 first started, there was a X21 that ran onto the 21A from Peterlee operated by Stockton depot.

Arriva North East 4658 / NK05 GXN by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

There was also an additional Sunderland - Peterlee weekday afternoon journey ran by Belmont which worked off the 24X.

My YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9HTKdt...fk4ab9rDjQ
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/127079988@N02/

Mark P

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03 Sep 2016, 8:30 pm #1,606

(03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm)James101 If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

The 22 will be a pale blue sapphire bus, the X22 will be a dark blue max bus and the 23 will be a green eco bus. What could possibly go wrong

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Mark P

03 Sep 2016, 8:30 pm #1,606

(03 Sep 2016, 8:17 pm)James101 If I've read it correctly there's going to be a lot of confusion between the 22 and X22. Heading southbound a passenger will be very lost if they mix them up.

The 22 will be a pale blue sapphire bus, the X22 will be a dark blue max bus and the 23 will be a green eco bus. What could possibly go wrong

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BusLoverMum

5,288

03 Sep 2016, 8:31 pm #1,607

(03 Sep 2016, 8:28 pm)Jimmi When the X21 first started, there was a X21 that ran onto the 21A from Peterlee operated by Stockton depot.
Arriva North East 4658 / NK05 GXN by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

There was also an additional Sunderland - Peterlee weekday afternoon journey ran by Belmont which worked off the 24X.

I sit corrected (and miss the omnicities on that route) Wink

BusLoverMum

03 Sep 2016, 8:31 pm #1,607

(03 Sep 2016, 8:28 pm)Jimmi When the X21 first started, there was a X21 that ran onto the 21A from Peterlee operated by Stockton depot.
Arriva North East 4658 / NK05 GXN by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

There was also an additional Sunderland - Peterlee weekday afternoon journey ran by Belmont which worked off the 24X.

I sit corrected (and miss the omnicities on that route) Wink

James101

652

03 Sep 2016, 9:02 pm #1,608

Sounds like the best thought out plan since the incredibly useful Peterlee - Thornaby link:

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/stagecoachuk/19945029102

James101

03 Sep 2016, 9:02 pm #1,608

Sounds like the best thought out plan since the incredibly useful Peterlee - Thornaby link:

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/stagecoachuk/19945029102

Cock Robin

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05 Sep 2016, 9:22 pm #1,609

(03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm)tyresmoke If I remember correctly they're 5 mins apart in Peterlee, off the same stand.
However one is a Sapphire bus, heading for Durham, and one is a Max bus (or will be) heading for Middlesbrough...

Assuming the Sapphire service always has a Sapphire bus and the Max service always has a Max bus.....

Cock Robin

05 Sep 2016, 9:22 pm #1,609

(03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm)tyresmoke If I remember correctly they're 5 mins apart in Peterlee, off the same stand.
However one is a Sapphire bus, heading for Durham, and one is a Max bus (or will be) heading for Middlesbrough...

Assuming the Sapphire service always has a Sapphire bus and the Max service always has a Max bus.....

omnicity4659

5,592

06 Sep 2016, 3:04 pm #1,610

4th September service changes -
X20: Additional peak time service from Newcastle to Ashington in the evening is now run by Jesmond
X30: This service has transferred from Jesmond to Blyth
494: This service has transferred from Jesmond to Ashington

494 runs off a 35A from Woodhorn to Longbenton.

omnicity4659

06 Sep 2016, 3:04 pm #1,610

Jimmi

10,977

06 Sep 2016, 3:14 pm #1,611

PB0002717/238 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Newcastle given service number X12 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/239 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Durham given service number X12 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/382 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Sunderland given service number 22 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/383 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Hartlepool given service number 24/24X effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

My YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9HTKdt...fk4ab9rDjQ
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/127079988@N02/

Jimmi

06 Sep 2016, 3:14 pm #1,611

My YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9HTKdt...fk4ab9rDjQ
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/127079988@N02/

mb134

4,162

06 Sep 2016, 4:07 pm #1,612

(06 Sep 2016, 3:04 pm)GX03 SVC 4th September service changes -
X20: Additional peak time service from Newcastle to Ashington in the evening is now run by Jesmond
X30: This service has transferred from Jesmond to Blyth
494: This service has transferred from Jesmond to Ashington

494 runs off a 35A from Woodhorn to Longbenton

Wouldn't like to be on that Jesmond operated X20, pretty much guaranteed to be allocated a Solo.

mb134

06 Sep 2016, 4:07 pm #1,612

(06 Sep 2016, 3:04 pm)GX03 SVC 4th September service changes -
X20: Additional peak time service from Newcastle to Ashington in the evening is now run by Jesmond
X30: This service has transferred from Jesmond to Blyth
494: This service has transferred from Jesmond to Ashington

494 runs off a 35A from Woodhorn to Longbenton

Wouldn't like to be on that Jesmond operated X20, pretty much guaranteed to be allocated a Solo.

Michael

19,177

06 Sep 2016, 5:42 pm #1,613

(06 Sep 2016, 3:14 pm)Jimmi PB0002717/238 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Newcastle given service number X12 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/239 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Durham given service number X12 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/382 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Sunderland given service number 22 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/383 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Hartlepool given service number 24/24X effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Wonder what the change is?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

06 Sep 2016, 5:42 pm #1,613

(06 Sep 2016, 3:14 pm)Jimmi PB0002717/238 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Newcastle given service number X12 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/239 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Durham given service number X12 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/382 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Sunderland given service number 22 effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002717/383 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Hartlepool given service number 24/24X effective from 02-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Wonder what the change is?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,128

06 Sep 2016, 5:46 pm #1,614

(06 Sep 2016, 5:42 pm)Michael Wonder what the change is?

Services reverting to their usual timetables - the roadworks in Durham should be complete by 1st October.

The PVR of Go North East's 20 service will reduce by one vehicle with extra layover in Durham removed, from the same date.

Dan

06 Sep 2016, 5:46 pm #1,614

(06 Sep 2016, 5:42 pm)Michael Wonder what the change is?

Michael

19,177

06 Sep 2016, 5:54 pm #1,615

(06 Sep 2016, 5:46 pm)Dan Services reverting to their usual timetables - the roadworks in Durham should be complete by 1st October.

The PVR of Go North East's 20 service will reduce by one vehicle with extra layover in Durham removed, from the same date.

Oh i thought it was later in the year not October for the roadworks to be complete, they've gone quick.

I take it Deptford will lose a bus because of this?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

06 Sep 2016, 5:54 pm #1,615

(06 Sep 2016, 5:46 pm)Dan Services reverting to their usual timetables - the roadworks in Durham should be complete by 1st October.

The PVR of Go North East's 20 service will reduce by one vehicle with extra layover in Durham removed, from the same date.

Oh i thought it was later in the year not October for the roadworks to be complete, they've gone quick.

I take it Deptford will lose a bus because of this?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,128

06 Sep 2016, 5:55 pm #1,616

(06 Sep 2016, 5:54 pm)Michael Oh i thought it was later in the year not October for the roadworks to be complete, they've gone quick.

I take it Deptford will lose a bus because of this?

Yes, they will.

The outstanding transfer as a consequence of one of the two new red Streetlites entering service will go ahead.

Dan

06 Sep 2016, 5:55 pm #1,616

(06 Sep 2016, 5:54 pm)Michael Oh i thought it was later in the year not October for the roadworks to be complete, they've gone quick.

I take it Deptford will lose a bus because of this?

Yes, they will.

The outstanding transfer as a consequence of one of the two new red Streetlites entering service will go ahead.

Michael

19,177

06 Sep 2016, 5:59 pm #1,617

(06 Sep 2016, 5:55 pm)Dan Yes, they will.

The outstanding transfer as a consequence of one of the two new red Streetlites entering service will go ahead.

Hopefully a Scania will move out.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

06 Sep 2016, 5:59 pm #1,617

(06 Sep 2016, 5:55 pm)Dan Yes, they will.

The outstanding transfer as a consequence of one of the two new red Streetlites entering service will go ahead.

Hopefully a Scania will move out.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.