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Jimmi

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17 Aug 2016, 8:21 pm #301

(17 Aug 2016, 8:12 pm)Dan https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoachuk/28429702694/

It looks quite comfortable, and in very good condition (internally and externally), for such an old bus! Wonder if Stagecoach have spotted their spelling mistake for this display yet? Should be 'village'!

Ah, the other bus I want that has evaded me both times I've visited the Lakes!

Fair few of the buses round that way look decent despite their ages, this one does especially though, despite the Filpdot destinations which I think sit quite well.

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Jimmi

17 Aug 2016, 8:21 pm #301

(17 Aug 2016, 8:12 pm)Dan https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoachuk/28429702694/

It looks quite comfortable, and in very good condition (internally and externally), for such an old bus! Wonder if Stagecoach have spotted their spelling mistake for this display yet? Should be 'village'!

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Michael

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19 Aug 2016, 6:42 pm #302

Have to say the new E400's on the 555 in the lakes are very smart, didn't have the chance to ride one though.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

19 Aug 2016, 6:42 pm #302

Have to say the new E400's on the 555 in the lakes are very smart, didn't have the chance to ride one though.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

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20 Aug 2016, 10:45 am #303

Finally had a decent phone to take a photo of W214 DNO at Hollister slate mine.

Edited 20 Aug 2016, 10:47 am by Michael.

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Michael

20 Aug 2016, 10:45 am #303

Finally had a decent phone to take a photo of W214 DNO at Hollister slate mine.

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NK53 TKT

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10 Sep 2016, 12:05 pm #304

Attempted to get on the X8 earlier but. The driver said my grandads concessionary pass couldn't be used, is this legal?

NK53 TKT

10 Sep 2016, 12:05 pm #304

Attempted to get on the X8 earlier but. The driver said my grandads concessionary pass couldn't be used, is this legal?

Tom

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10 Sep 2016, 1:18 pm #305

(10 Sep 2016, 12:05 pm)NK53 TKT Attempted to get on the X8 earlier but. The driver said my grandads concessionary pass couldn't be used, is this legal?

You can't use them on the X8 is says on the timetable - it's always been the case

Tom

10 Sep 2016, 1:18 pm #305

(10 Sep 2016, 12:05 pm)NK53 TKT Attempted to get on the X8 earlier but. The driver said my grandads concessionary pass couldn't be used, is this legal?

You can't use them on the X8 is says on the timetable - it's always been the case

NK53 TKT

2,441

11 Sep 2016, 7:45 am #306

(10 Sep 2016, 1:18 pm)Tom You can't use them on the X8 is says on the timetable - it's always been the case

I think that it isn't legal though with it being registered on VOSA

NK53 TKT

11 Sep 2016, 7:45 am #306

(10 Sep 2016, 1:18 pm)Tom You can't use them on the X8 is says on the timetable - it's always been the case

I think that it isn't legal though with it being registered on VOSA

omnicity4659

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11 Sep 2016, 9:21 am #307

(11 Sep 2016, 7:45 am)NK53 TKT I think that it isn't legal though with it being registered on VOSA

It is legal. Some operators choose not to accept them on certain services/journeys and some don't. It's just not common practice up here!

Edited 11 Sep 2016, 9:22 am by omnicity4659.

omnicity4659

11 Sep 2016, 9:21 am #307

(11 Sep 2016, 7:45 am)NK53 TKT I think that it isn't legal though with it being registered on VOSA

It is legal. Some operators choose not to accept them on certain services/journeys and some don't. It's just not common practice up here!

James101

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11 Sep 2016, 9:24 am #308

(11 Sep 2016, 7:45 am)NK53 TKT I think that it isn't legal though with it being registered on VOSA

Concesionary passes are not permitted on 'express' routes which are legally defined by the distance between stops, with the X8 exceeds.

Other examples include the red arrow operated by Trent Barton. Derby council however, have volunterilly extended their scheme to cover the red arrow so pass holders can travel for free, but only on Derby departures, so they must pay to return.

The exclusion of bus passes from services like the X8 is what saves them for withdrawal. Stagecoach could not afford to have a vehicle out all day, which only carries one load of passengers, and only receive the bare bones reimbursement for their fares.

James101

11 Sep 2016, 9:24 am #308

(11 Sep 2016, 7:45 am)NK53 TKT I think that it isn't legal though with it being registered on VOSA

RBZ 5459

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15 Sep 2016, 5:20 pm #309

Cascade of former North East E400 allocation (subject to change):
Carlisle: 19141/3/4
Morecambe: 19142/5/6/7/8

C&NL Olympians currently in disposal: 16634/45/60/63/64/65/67/70/776/795

Edited 15 Sep 2016, 5:21 pm by RBZ 5459.

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RBZ 5459

15 Sep 2016, 5:20 pm #309

Cascade of former North East E400 allocation (subject to change):
Carlisle: 19141/3/4
Morecambe: 19142/5/6/7/8

C&NL Olympians currently in disposal: 16634/45/60/63/64/65/67/70/776/795

RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

~~Y935 ERG~~

Banned

83

19 Sep 2016, 4:58 pm #310

Carlisle United branded 37107 is on the 685 today.

Y935 ERG

19 Sep 2016, 4:58 pm #310

Carlisle United branded 37107 is on the 685 today.

RBZ 5459

1,097

20 Sep 2016, 1:07 pm #311

Carlisle will be painting 27141/2 into the new joint 685 livery, as well as one of 48001/2.
Three Omnicity painted up from Jesmond.

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RBZ 5459

20 Sep 2016, 1:07 pm #311

Carlisle will be painting 27141/2 into the new joint 685 livery, as well as one of 48001/2.
Three Omnicity painted up from Jesmond.

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Designline

21 Sep 2016, 4:37 pm #312

(20 Sep 2016, 1:07 pm)RBZ 5459 Carlisle will be painting 27141/2 into the new joint 685 livery, as well as one of 48001/2.
Three Omnicity painted up from Jesmond.

Arriva should think about painting one of their pulsars for spare

Designline

21 Sep 2016, 4:37 pm #312

(20 Sep 2016, 1:07 pm)RBZ 5459 Carlisle will be painting 27141/2 into the new joint 685 livery, as well as one of 48001/2.
Three Omnicity painted up from Jesmond.

Arriva should think about painting one of their pulsars for spare

~~Y935 ERG~~

Banned

83

21 Sep 2016, 4:51 pm #313

(20 Sep 2016, 1:07 pm)RBZ 5459 Carlisle will be painting 27141/2 into the new joint 685 livery, as well as one of 48001/2.
Three Omnicity painted up from Jesmond.

They have 4 Omni's don't they?...
A Solo spare doesn't make sense to me, a MANviro would be better.

(21 Sep 2016, 4:37 pm)Designline Arriva should think about painting one of their pulsars for spare

I agree, 4661 is never on.

Y935 ERG

21 Sep 2016, 4:51 pm #313

(20 Sep 2016, 1:07 pm)RBZ 5459 Carlisle will be painting 27141/2 into the new joint 685 livery, as well as one of 48001/2.
Three Omnicity painted up from Jesmond.

They have 4 Omni's don't they?...
A Solo spare doesn't make sense to me, a MANviro would be better.

(21 Sep 2016, 4:37 pm)Designline Arriva should think about painting one of their pulsars for spare

I agree, 4661 is never on.

Dan

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21 Sep 2016, 4:57 pm #314

(21 Sep 2016, 4:51 pm)Y935 ERG They have 4 Omni's don't they?...
A Solo spare doesn't make sense to me, a MANviro would be better.

The Solo wouldn't be 'spare', would it?

The short runs between Carlisle and Brampton are (or were?) allocated one of 48001/02 - see below:

Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire: 48002 / YJ15ANF by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Makes complete sense in my eyes to brand one of the Solos too, if that's still the case.

Dan

21 Sep 2016, 4:57 pm #314

(21 Sep 2016, 4:51 pm)Y935 ERG They have 4 Omni's don't they?...
A Solo spare doesn't make sense to me, a MANviro would be better.

The Solo wouldn't be 'spare', would it?

The short runs between Carlisle and Brampton are (or were?) allocated one of 48001/02 - see below:

Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire: 48002 / YJ15ANF by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Makes complete sense in my eyes to brand one of the Solos too, if that's still the case.

~~Y935 ERG~~

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83

21 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm #315

(21 Sep 2016, 4:57 pm)Dan The Solo wouldn't be 'spare', would it?

The short runs between Carlisle and Brampton are (or were?) allocated one of 48001/02 - see below:

Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire: 48002 / YJ15ANF by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Makes complete sense in my eyes to brand one of the Solos too, if that's still the case.

Didn't realise 48001/2 are allocated to short 685 as they weren't on when I went.

Y935 ERG

21 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm #315

(21 Sep 2016, 4:57 pm)Dan The Solo wouldn't be 'spare', would it?

The short runs between Carlisle and Brampton are (or were?) allocated one of 48001/02 - see below:

Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire: 48002 / YJ15ANF by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Makes complete sense in my eyes to brand one of the Solos too, if that's still the case.

Didn't realise 48001/2 are allocated to short 685 as they weren't on when I went.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

21 Sep 2016, 5:03 pm #316

(21 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm)Y935 ERG Didn't realise 48001/2 are allocated to short 685 as they weren't on when I went.

The allocation is very slack atm, Tends to be any Corporate Solo in the depot allocated.
We'll still see a corporate Solo at some times of the day as the daytime short 685 runs onto a 600 to Cockermouth around 17:00, With another Solo taking its place on a short 685 around the same time.

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South Tyne Lad

21 Sep 2016, 5:03 pm #316

(21 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm)Y935 ERG Didn't realise 48001/2 are allocated to short 685 as they weren't on when I went.

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Jimmi

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21 Sep 2016, 5:16 pm #317

(21 Sep 2016, 4:37 pm)Designline Arriva should think about painting one of their pulsars for spare

I wonder if there is still any plans to bring 4663 back into service or not? One minute I'm hearing it's life is over but then the next I'm hearing work is being done to bring it back into service...

Would be nice if Arriva would get some newer stock for their 685 workings as the Omnicitys will be 10 years old next year and I fear they could start to become unreliable in the not too distant future which you don't really want on such a long distance route.

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Jimmi

21 Sep 2016, 5:16 pm #317

(21 Sep 2016, 4:37 pm)Designline Arriva should think about painting one of their pulsars for spare

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Dan

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21 Sep 2016, 5:26 pm #318

(21 Sep 2016, 5:03 pm)South Tyne Lad The allocation is very slack atm, Tends to be any Corporate Solo in the depot allocated.
We'll still see a corporate Solo at some times of the day as the daytime short 685 runs onto a 600 to Cockermouth around 17:00, With another Solo taking its place on a short 685 around the same time.

Perhaps as Stagecoach are intending to brand the Optare Solo, it won't be as slack in future? Maybe timetable changes will mean that the short 685s will no longer run onto the 600 service.

Dan

21 Sep 2016, 5:26 pm #318

(21 Sep 2016, 5:03 pm)South Tyne Lad The allocation is very slack atm, Tends to be any Corporate Solo in the depot allocated.
We'll still see a corporate Solo at some times of the day as the daytime short 685 runs onto a 600 to Cockermouth around 17:00, With another Solo taking its place on a short 685 around the same time.

Perhaps as Stagecoach are intending to brand the Optare Solo, it won't be as slack in future? Maybe timetable changes will mean that the short 685s will no longer run onto the 600 service.

peter

993

22 Sep 2016, 7:18 pm #319

(21 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm)Y935 ERG Didn't realise 48001/2 are allocated to short 685 as they weren't on when I went.

I was led to believe 48001/2 were purchased for the 77/77A (Honnister Pass Route).

peter

22 Sep 2016, 7:18 pm #319

(21 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm)Y935 ERG Didn't realise 48001/2 are allocated to short 685 as they weren't on when I went.

I was led to believe 48001/2 were purchased for the 77/77A (Honnister Pass Route).

RBZ 5459

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22 Sep 2016, 8:43 pm #320

(22 Sep 2016, 7:18 pm)peter I was led to believe 48001/2 were purchased for the 77/77A (Honnister Pass Route).

48001/2 are just bog standard slimlines. 47721/22 are still first choice Honister buses due to their specification; increased ground clearance, altered rear bumper, larger diameter wheels and the rear axle has a lower ratio to aid hill climbing. Interworking PVR is three during summer so 47921 is the third bus, again it's a bog standard Slimline although is Cummins/Voith combo so not great for the route.

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22 Sep 2016, 8:43 pm #320

(22 Sep 2016, 7:18 pm)peter I was led to believe 48001/2 were purchased for the 77/77A (Honnister Pass Route).

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